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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#601 » by LastNameEver » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:40 am

Scott Hall wrote:
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#602 » by bakafool » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:41 am

The Boy wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:
Read on Twitter

Progress.

Unfortunately, too late for that.
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#603 » by Vlade Divac » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:41 am

In my book Wiz’s are favourites now. It proved time and time again that the team with best all stars are going to win. It’s proven so far that Beil and Wall are real all stars while our mental midgets are where they were in every single playoff series in their **** careers. TBH I don’t mind, another drubbing by LeBron I just don’t want to see.
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#604 » by biblast » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:41 am

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Shut up Demar, Raps board wants to blame it on Casey! Oh wait, you were supposed to be on the bench!! Casey it’s your fault! Lmao at some clowns on this board!
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#605 » by diamondsfinest » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:42 am

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I really don't think Casey draws up ANY plays that tell DeMar that he HAS to shoot. Even if that's the first option, DeMar has to read the defense.

In football, if the play is to throw to the primary receiver and he's in triple coverage, it's not the coach's fault if the QB throws it anyway and gets picked.


So it just coincidentally ended up in DeMar's hands EACH possession for the final minutes?!

We don't actually believe that do we???

Someone *ahem* seen it failing over n over yet CONTINUED to draw it up that way....


There's no problem with starting a play with DeMar. DeMar doesn't have to shoot. He's allowed to pass.

Lowry looked gassed. He didn't play great but maxed out on effort. He couldn't even blow by Gortat in the 4th quarter. Delon had the deer in the headlights look tonight. Those were our options.

There's no play called "assisted 3-pointer". Those happen organically when you correctly react to the D, which we didn't do enough times tonight.


theres a raptors defensive play, as in for the opponents, its called 'stroke Demars ego'

when you make him go hero ball it makes it alot easier for the other team to defend, thats why teams like GSW this year were like 'these guys are alot harder to defend now with all this ball movement"
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#606 » by Vlade Divac » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:42 am

bakafool wrote:
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Scott Hall wrote:
Read on Twitter

Progress.

Unfortunately, too late for that.


Did he say that we “learn” from “our” mistakes?
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#607 » by Mad Balla 15 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:42 am

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Buff wrote:This is our offense sinde the 6 minute mark... are you really not offended by it? Don't you really think Casey has something to do with this?

06:24 - Lowry 3pt Shot: Missed
05:50 - DeRozan Pullup Jump shot: Made
05:22 - DeRozan Jump Bank Shot: Missed
05:50 - DeRozan Pullup Jump shot: Made
05:01 - DeRozan Running Jump Shot: Missed
04:37 - Poeltl Jump Shot: Made
03:55 - DeRozan Driving Floating Jump Shot: Missed
03:08 - DeRozan Driving Layup Shot: Missed
02:46 - DeRozan 3pt Shot: Missed
02:38 - DeRozan Layup Shot: Made
02:03 - Lowry Driving Layup Shot: Missed
01:35 - DeRozan 3pt Shot: Missed
01:20 - Miles 3pt Shot: Missed
00:49.3 - Ibaka 3pt Shot: Missed
00:16.0 - DeRozan Free Throw 2 of 2 (35 PTS)
00:16.0 - DeRozan Free Throw 1 of 2 (34 PTS)


People. THIS. Is the problem.

Forget blaming Delon. Forget blaming CJ. Or anyone else.

Read the facts.


This was the exact point I was making with my thread that was locked for some reason. This time always reverts back to ISO ball when things get tight which usually more often than not turns into losses. The culture hasn’t changed.
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#608 » by GIZMO » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:42 am

bakafool wrote:Jakob and Pascal need to take those fkn shots when they are in the paint and take them with force.


Jakob has no offensive game unfortunately
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#609 » by Tanner » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:43 am

I had the Raps winning games 4 and 5. Now I’m hoping they actually win the series.
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#610 » by bakafool » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:43 am

This is a great start to the week. Will not be listening to any radio or watching TV for the next few days.
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#611 » by bakafool » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:44 am

Why oh why do we have to make it difficult all the time.
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#612 » by PhilBlackson » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:44 am

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I really don't think Casey draws up ANY plays that tell DeMar that he HAS to shoot. Even if that's the first option, DeMar has to read the defense.

In football, if the play is to throw to the primary receiver and he's in triple coverage, it's not the coach's fault if the QB throws it anyway and gets picked.


So it just coincidentally ended up in DeMar's hands EACH possession for the final minutes?!

We don't actually believe that do we???

Someone *ahem* seen it failing over n over yet CONTINUED to draw it up that way....


There's no problem with starting a play with DeMar. DeMar doesn't have to shoot. He's allowed to pass.

Lowry looked gassed. He didn't play great but maxed out on effort. He couldn't even blow by Gortat in the 4th quarter. Delon had the deer in the headlights look tonight. Those were our options.

There's no play called "assisted 3-pointer". Those happen organically when you correctly react to the D, which we didn't do enough times tonight.


Ok so as the coach of this team of how many years now?! He doesn't know DeMar's track record of these late game situations better yet these PLAY CALLS down the stretch?!

It's fine if it happens maybe once or twice but Casey seen it wasn't working n that the wrong decision was being made OVER n OVER again but yet CASEY chose to draw up the same damn thing, that is on HIM!!!

Idk why people are such apologists that they can't admit what terrible coaching that is down the stretch. These same Three Stooges continue to make the same dumb mistakes year in n year out. Any half decent coach STOPS iso-ing a player that has failed on 2-3 consecutive possessions. They don't continue to force feed a cold hand that is only growing further frustrated. Do you think Pops, Kerr, Stevens or any other respectable coach would continue to force it to a single player who was never known as a great passer to be the decision maker?! Especially if they already had several previous seasons and also minutes within the game as a reference point?!

It's rhetorical because you know they wouldn't. Casey n DeMar deserve each other and Lowry is just a coward so we'll leave him alone as he wants to be.
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#613 » by HEKTOR » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:44 am

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HEKTOR wrote:Some of you guys really don't understand the complexity of coaching to the point that you try and simplify things for yourself but in reality, it's just proof that you simply don't know what you're talking about.
Always easy to blame the coach - but I'll go with the PROS who have more or less unanimously came out respecting Casey and his staff for their knowledge of the game.
Most of you guys probably wouldn't be able to coach an elementary school team. When you lose, you'd blame the kids just because it's always easier blaming someone else.

Even elementary school kids know Casey has no plan to win the playoffs

Right - that's why Casey has been quite successful in the past few years both in the regular season and playoffs. You're just looking to point the finger at someone so to say "that's the guy, that's the problem" - but it's more complicated than that.
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#614 » by joeyt618 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:44 am

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duppyy wrote:Porter hurts his elbow, misses first FT, Casey calls a timeout. Gives him time to recover. You guys wanted him for COTY? FOH.


I know right. Litterally the dumbest timeout. I swear he’s guessing at this point.

And at one point, Wall came down on a shot and tweaked his knee/ankle... hobbles down the court. Casey calls timeout. :banghead:
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#615 » by GQStylin » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:44 am

biblast™ wrote:Okay. How is this Casey’s fault again ? Oh wait, he’s the one that told them to miss those shots ? That was part of the game plan ???
Casey left Lebron on our bench ??? Oh wait, he plays for Cleveland!
So Casey should have benched the entire team and play Bebe, JV, and Brown ??

Had those clowns play the same way they did in the 1st half and made shots, would you had given credit to Casey ???

Seriously, this board is a joke!


So a player who's clearly struggling hard this game and isn't producing for you is allowed to stay on the floor because you need to 'ride or die' with your fakest ass 'all-star' ever while not letting JV who's shooting 70%+ for this series sits on the bench and you're saying THAT ISN'T CASEY'S FAULT?? :crazy: :noway:

Seriously if Demar isn't scoring, what is he doing for this team when he's on the floor? NOTHING. At least when Lebron struggles offensively he can still pass, defend and be useful on the floor in other ways. That's why Lebron is a legend and Demar is a fakeass 'star' that we're paying 26 million to crap the bed every single year in the playoffs.
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#616 » by Childs » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:44 am

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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#617 » by biblast » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:45 am

GIZMO wrote:
bakafool wrote:Jakob and Pascal need to take those fkn shots when they are in the paint and take them with force.


Jakob has no offensive game unfortunately


They can’t create shots for themselves. They need a guy like VV to set them up. I thought DD missed a few outlet passes to Siakam who always outruns everyone in transition!
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#618 » by HiMyNameIsTrey » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:45 am

Scott Hall wrote:
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Too bad their words are worthless every year.
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#619 » by bakafool » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:45 am

Time to sleep. Done with this sht.
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Re: PG: derozan will never learn 

Post#620 » by UneducatedFan86 » Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:45 am

Don't worry guys! Devlin said he just missed shots that we usually make.

But honestly, I feel like the momentum has shifted for the Wizards. They've got Beal going and also Porter. Those two were basically non-existent for the first two games and it was really the difference in those two games. Beal and Porter open up a lot of things that the Wizards didn't have going for them but have found again (i.e. the PnR offense, pick and pop, etc).

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