2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

[God Squad]

While there is a lot of talk regarding Siakam to the Kings who are desperate to get into the playoffs;

If at the deadline its not looking likely do they consider stripping down some of their older guys (The 28+ club) and just tank it out under a new coach?

If this is the case;
What does Richaun Holmes (28, 3 more years around 12m per left on deal) cost the Raps?

I've high-key wanted Holmes on the Raptors for years. While not elite, he does almost everything good or even great.

[KL78192020]

Tyreke Evans wants to make a comeback. Give him a two year minimum deal, if he plays well he can easily be traded to a playoff team looking to win, if he stinks no big loss.

[Mattatron]

Siakam is an all-star PF. Even if we drafted the second coming of LeBron, you don't trade guys like that away for less than they're worth. You can't build a contender like that.

Masai has built a contender twice before exactly like that.

Which Masai are you talking about? The one who runs the Raptors has won every trade he's ever made.

The Ibaka, Gasol and Kawhi deals were the ones that put us over the edge. Not to mention the Vasquez deal that brought us Powell.

You can't trade away a dollar, get 25 cents in return and come out richer than the guy who you gave your dollar to. It doesn't make sense.

Demarre Carroll.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Masai has built a contender twice before exactly like that.

Which Masai are you talking about? The one who runs the Raptors has won every trade he's ever made.

The Ibaka, Gasol and Kawhi deals were the ones that put us over the edge. Not to mention the Vasquez deal that brought us Powell.

You can't trade away a dollar, get 25 cents in return and come out richer than the guy who you gave your dollar to. It doesn't make sense.

Demarre Carroll.

Carroll was traded along with a first and second round draft pick to the Brooklyn Nets, as part of a “salary-dump”. The trade allowed the Raptors to re-sign Serge Ibaka and Kyle Lowry while remaining under the Luxury-Tax threshold.

[Morris_Shatford]

While there is a lot of talk regarding Siakam to the Kings who are desperate to get into the playoffs;

If at the deadline its not looking likely do they consider stripping down some of their older guys (The 28+ club) and just tank it out under a new coach?

If this is the case;
What does Richaun Holmes (28, 3 more years around 12m per left on deal) cost the Raps?

I've high-key wanted Holmes on the Raptors for years. While not elite, he does almost everything good or even great.

Holmes is one of the most "Nick Nurse Players" in the league;
The contract he got this summer was far more reasonable than I assumed he would get and he fills an immediate need.

I just have no idea what sort of value he would command on the trade market

[goinrogue]

I honestly believe Ben Simmons could end up becoming a raptor. I know raptors fans don’t want him on the team by and large but he’s very much the kind of player the Raptors would be interested in. His ability to guard all five positions at an all NBA level screams Masai and we hired an Australian assistant coach.
If CJ McCollum is the best the Sixers can do for Simmons, a number of our players easily beat that offer. Fred, OG, Gary, pascal are all arguably better and we have all of our pics.

[tecumseh18]

Which Masai are you talking about? The one who runs the Raptors has won every trade he's ever made.

The Ibaka, Gasol and Kawhi deals were the ones that put us over the edge. Not to mention the Vasquez deal that brought us Powell.

You can't trade away a dollar, get 25 cents in return and come out richer than the guy who you gave your dollar to. It doesn't make sense.

Demarre Carroll.

Carroll was traded along with a first and second round draft pick to the Brooklyn Nets, as part of a “salary-dump”. The trade allowed the Raptors to re-sign Serge Ibaka and Kyle Lowry while remaining under the Luxury-Tax threshold.

The Nets used our first rounder to draft *checks notes* Džanan Musa. Major blunder on their part. They could have drafted a true difference maker like Jalen Brunson, or Devonte' Graham, or Mitchell Robinson or ... Gary Trent Jr. or Svi Mykhailiuk. Shake Milton was also available. Interesting that GTJ probably should have been the choice at that spot. Who's he playing for now?

On a related note, I regularly check in on the Spurs' thoroughly average Keldon Johnson, drafted with the #29 pick we gave up for Kawhi. KPJ went #30. Interesting that Jordan Poole went #28. That would have hurt a bit more. Some interesting talent went after #29, including the untradeable, blossoming superstar THT (#46). I do like Terance Mann (#48), tho'. But I liked one season of Kawhi even more.

[Morris_Shatford]

I honestly believe Ben Simmons could end up becoming a raptor. I know raptors fans don’t want him on the team by and large but he’s very much the kind of player the Raptors would be interested in. His ability to guard all five positions at an all NBA level screams Masai and we hired an Australian assistant coach.
If CJ McCollum is the best the Sixers can do for Simmons, a number of our players easily beat that offer. Fred, OG, Gary, pascal are all arguably better and we have all of our pics.

Speaking from my perspective;
I think Simmons is fine its just I never felt that "godfather" offer that Morey was seeking was ever something I would have wanted to pay for a guy who I think may make us better but doesn't make us contenders (especially given what was rumoured to go the other way)

With that said, if he comes cheap enough then there is a discussion to be had.
If McCollum, Little, and an FRP is the discussion then I would certainly be more interested in trading for Simmons at that price point.

[Kurtz]

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This is not a drill, boys, let's get Turn'd up!

[Rapsfan07]

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This is not a drill, boys, let's get Turn'd up!

Every year there's rumors around what the Pacers are doing and nothing happens.

Not sure how serious to take any of this but either way, I'm not sure we're the best trading partners. We're rebuilding and they're trying to rebuild by selling off their vets.

[tecumseh18]

This is not a drill, boys, let's get Turn'd up!

The Pacers' main issue is the lack of a true power SF. TJ Warren's injuries have been a disaster for them for the last two seasons. So I've always assumed that they would only want OG from us in any trade. In which case, no deal. Turner's not THAT good. But if Lavert is also being made available, then maybe they'd want the 22-year-old GTJ.

There's nobody on their roster I would trade OG for. Possible exception - TJ Warren was also coming back in the deal and Alex McKechnie had thoroughly vetted his medicals.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

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This is not a drill, boys, let's get Turn'd up!

Boucher
Birch
Bonga
David Johnson
Flynn
Precious
Banton
Champagnie

with a combination of draft picks for Turner.

I would offer:

Precious
Goran
2 FRPs
2 SRPs

[Asif16]

I honestly dont think we have the Assets to get Turner or Sabonis (assuming Scottie and our core guys is off the table obviously).

Unless a 3rd team gets involved, which is unlikely. Boucher, Flynn, Banton, Draft picks wont cut it

[Asif16]

I'd happily include Precious in a deal for Myles Turner. I just dont know if thats what the Raptors would want to do. And also not sure how other teams value Precious yet.

[Kurtz]

This is not a drill, boys, let's get Turn'd up!

The Pacers' main issue is the lack of a true power SF. TJ Warren's injuries have been a disaster for them for the last two seasons. So I've always assumed that they would only want OG from us in any trade. In which case, no deal. Turner's not THAT good. But if Lavert is also being made available, then maybe they'd want the 22-year-old GTJ.

There's nobody on their roster I would trade OG for. Possible exception - TJ Warren was also coming back in the deal and Alex McKechnie had thoroughly vetted his medicals.

OG and Scottie have to be off-limits, but if Indy is looking to blow it up and rebuild, I think they'd be open to young talent at all positions.

Trent, Flynn, picks (maybe Precious too) would be a competitive offer, I think. I don't know how many teams out there are searching for a C right now, but consider that Jarred Allen went for a mere first.

[DangerZone13]

I'd think no matter what happens, fun concept trades aside, we know this:

-Scottie+OG is the base of our future. This year is about finding how to build successfully around them, develop them for their roles, and teach them how to win games.

-Fred isn't going anywhere. Love him or hate him, he's going to be a Raptor for a long time. His chemistry with Nurse, leadership, composure, and ability to hit those "F-U" shots will keep him here. I think he'll be on a Lowry trajectory of getting better with age. Freddie is to us what Marcus Smart is to the Celtics in a sense - engrained into the team identity.

-We should think of Precious as if he were an Ignite player last year and Masai picked him this year. We'd be thrilled that a rookie provides the defense Achiuwa does, and accept he's got to learn to stay in his lane on offense for now.

-Banton will hold significant value to the team, and given his strides so far, I'd expect he'll be here for a long time as well.

Literally everyone else, we'll just have to wait and see, but I'd just forget the listed guys when playing with the trade machine.

[PoundTown]

The one Center I’d give up for siakam is not turner or Holmes, it’s Jarrett allen. With him we really could be that bad a$$ rebounding and defensive team. He’s starting to shoot the 3 and attack off the dribble from three point line. I think he can be a top 10 center easily and maybe they think they want Mobley more at the 5. I’d do siakam and precious for him to be honest if we had to.

[Rodrickle]

That ship has sailed with Cleveland playing so well. he's fitting with Mobley really well too

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[DangerZone13]

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Brogdon and Levert both need a smaller guard who can defend quicker PG's, and both are hitting well below their career averages from 3 this year. Funnily, FVV would be a great fit for them, but I wouldn't move him for Turner. Sure, he's getting some hype this year, but he's still essentially the same player he's been for a good while now, but FVV seems to steadily improve year-to-year. I don't see Sabonis as a great fit going forward. Now that Scottie is showing some aptitude for shooting 3's, unless something can be built from GTJ+ for Turner, we should keep looking.

After a lot of playing around, I think the Raptors best bet is to fill out the 5 over the off-season instead of spending resources this year. With our team identity, the 5 ideally gets the least resource allotment going forward, so we're not aiming for big names here.

[DangerZone13]

I grew up a big fan of the big man positions, C-Webb, Duncan, and KG were some of my favourite non-Raptors around the league, so it's cool to see the position develop the way it has. Given the Raptors going through guys from Zan Tabak, Garth Joseph, Pape Sow, Rasho (long live Rasho!), Soloman Alabi, and on, and on - I've always enjoyed playing "who would fill that spot well for the team". I'd wished for Ibaka since his OKC days, and dreamed of Gasol manning the 5, and was so overwhelmingly happy that not only did both end up being Raptors, but that they helped bring a championship to the city.

There's promising young 5's with A. a lot of potential but B. some hard questions. Thomas Bryant and Mo Bamba are upcoming FA's likely to get $8M-14M contracts that could end up being steals while teams angle for Ayton. The draft could also hold some quality bigs - even outside of the likes of Banchero, Holmgren, Duren, and Smith. I quite like Duke's Mark Williams for his size/speed/strength/physicality. He's wing-type fast in transition at 7' 243lbs, but seems to look for, if not relish contact. Seems to have pretty good hops, and a 7'7" wingspan. Yannick Nsoza is an interesting 18yo international player, although very thin, but looks like he could be an Evan-Mobley-lite type with seasoning. I was hoping Ibou Dianko Badji would stay in the draft last year and to snag him with a 2nd - maybe this year.

All I know is, not necessarily for team performance, but selfishly I want a big time lob threat on the team. Even just a bench big. But someone Fred, Scottie, or Banton can just throw the ball near the rim and it'll get dunked. Precious is undersized, so he'll need more chemistry and IQ to do it consistently. The fans are already so loud, give them something to "pop" for. Could be the mood changer that helps win a couple close home games.