Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread

[douggood]

i have posted this before but i will say this again

the suns are handicapped by the ownership situation. any trade involving a player making more than MLE has to get approval of the banned Sarver and he is apparently being petty at the suns organization for all the stories etc. thus one of the reasons the jae crowder trade hasent happened.

all other trades has to get approval from the interim team governor.

all while the new incoming owner probably wont get nba approval before the trade deadline.

[Raptors Realtor]

As a fan base we really give Gary the short end of the stick.

We criticized him for being a bad finisher at the rim last season now look at this.

0-3ft FG%
2022: 57.9%
2023: 70.5%

3-10ft
2022: 41.5%
2023: 54.7%

Do we really want to do a straight swap for Poeltl? I guess it could be considered an economical move that keeps us under the tax.

I'm not the biggest Gary fan. But if he wants to stay, I say keep him for pure asset management.

But there are two parties at play here. If Trent doesn't want to resign but Poeltl wants to resign.. then?

I'm not sure that Poeltl is the best fit here. I feel like we need a centre in the mold of Turner who can stretch the floor while also being a strong rim protector. If we do get a traditional big I think we really need to focus on acquiring a lot of shooting to surround him because that's currently one of our roster's most glaring needs.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Should only be looking to trade for lotto picks and/or young talent like Suggs, Daniels, etc

Trading our first is insane

[StopitLeo]

Fred and Boucher for Ayton is a deal I can see happening. Then the Suns trade CP elsewhere for whatever they can get.

I wonder if the Suns would ever trade Booker and build around Ayton. Fred, OG, multiple picks and swaps?

[Zeno]

Fred and Boucher for Ayton is a deal I can see happening. Then the Suns trade CP elsewhere for whatever they can get.

I wonder if the Suns would ever trade Booker and build around Ayton. Fred, OG, multiple picks and swaps?

You should stop wondering Leo.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Fred and Boucher for Ayton is a deal I can see happening. Then the Suns trade CP elsewhere for whatever they can get.

I wonder if the Suns would ever trade Booker and build around Ayton. Fred, OG, multiple picks and swaps?

stop it leo

[KL78192020]

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I hate Turner but love him at the same time.

I think the best possible roster construction is the 6'9" thing outside of one 3-point shooting center and a shot creating guard who is like 6'4 or 6'5. So Adding Turner would be one step in the right direction.

Wonder if we could do a GTJ for Turner type deal, and then move FVV for some guard depth?

Why would the pacers do that. They have buddy heild in the SG role, shooting 42% from 3, better GTJ.

[sbsat]

As a fan base we really give Gary the short end of the stick.

We criticized him for being a bad finisher at the rim last season now look at this.

0-3ft FG%
2022: 57.9%
2023: 70.5%

3-10ft
2022: 41.5%
2023: 54.7%

Do we really want to do a straight swap for Poeltl? I guess it could be considered an economical move that keeps us under the tax.

I'm not the biggest Gary fan. But if he wants to stay, I say keep him for pure asset management.

But there are two parties at play here. If Trent doesn't want to resign but Poeltl wants to resign.. then?

Trent is our only decent shooter and replacing him with poetl would take an already imbalanced roster to epically imbalanced. Teams would not need to guard the 3pt line at all... Literally.

[Duffman100]

As a fan base we really give Gary the short end of the stick.

We criticized him for being a bad finisher at the rim last season now look at this.

0-3ft FG%
2022: 57.9%
2023: 70.5%

3-10ft
2022: 41.5%
2023: 54.7%

Do we really want to do a straight swap for Poeltl? I guess it could be considered an economical move that keeps us under the tax.

I'm not the biggest Gary fan. But if he wants to stay, I say keep him for pure asset management.

But there are two parties at play here. If Trent doesn't want to resign but Poeltl wants to resign.. then?

Trent is our only decent shooter and replacing him with poetl would take an already imbalanced roster to epically imbalanced. Teams would not need to guard the 3pt line at all... Literally.

Sure but we can fix that in the offseason + we got an asset.

It would be worse to lose Trent for nothing.

[KL78192020]

The Lakers.

They've already been rumoured to want him for almost a year now & I can't think of a more ideal scenario for Gary really from lifestyle to very much added exposure to usage when he'd become LeBron & AD's first kick out option from the paint, he could feast on easy looks. I don't imagine he'd sign a long term with us, so I think a 2 year deal with the Lakers would be perfect for him & them. I know if I was in his position I'd go that route.

Gary and Bo Cruz for Max Christie, Pat Beverly, NOLA 1st rounder.

Nah f that lol

Lakers have to part with one of their OWN frps or nothing and even then I'd first go shop Gary to multiple other teams ie/ NYK, PHX and I'm even reading NOP are interested in Bojan. But I'd first look to move him for something with more immediate results despite the upside of a potentially high lottery pick 4+ years from now from LA. I wouldn't be mad if they made that decision because of course when that year comes (27'), we'd all be thrilled that we have a lottery pick but I still feel most people will want to see some form of young players growing/developing in his place so I'd work with the other teams for their 23' FRPs plus whatever other assets (in Pels case there are several younger players I'd gladly take straight up Daniels, Murphy and Jones although less so due to him expiring).

But that NOLA pick (23rd right now, could go back up with Zion & BI's health improving) is a waste imo & I just rather not with Bev, Christie is just whatever lol

That NOLA pick has the swap rights to the Lakers pick this year, so you're essentially trading for the Lakers pick. I'd do that deal. Lakers will get the NOLA spot. Next year NOLA has their own pick and the Lakers pick lol.

[douggood]

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[navyblue]

I really want pels and grizz to be in the market for og. A pick heavy return is what I want.

[Thaddy]

I'm not the biggest Gary fan. But if he wants to stay, I say keep him for pure asset management.

But there are two parties at play here. If Trent doesn't want to resign but Poeltl wants to resign.. then?

Trent is our only decent shooter and replacing him with poetl would take an already imbalanced roster to epically imbalanced. Teams would not need to guard the 3pt line at all... Literally.

Sure but we can fix that in the offseason + we got an asset.

It would be worse to lose Trent for nothing.

Poeltl is an expiring contract too and he recently turned down an extension of four years and $58 million. He must be trying to get 20+ million per year, I guess we throw him a 3 year $60 million contract to retain him. It'd be another Powell situation if Trent ends up re-signing for the same amount or cheaper.

Starting non-shooters like Barnes, Siakam, and Poeltl together is going to lead to half court offense issues worth than what we currently have. Gary is our most efficient scorer without the 3pt line and our best 3pt shooter. Losing that is going to make us completely tank in the standings. But I guess that could be a good thing.

[Tha Cynic]

Shams

When talking to team officials across the NBA, the Toronto Raptors are the most fascinating franchise to watch before the deadline. At 20-24 and 11th place in the Eastern Conference, the Raptors have underwhelmed at times and have several talented players — Pascal Siakam, O.G. Anunoby, Fred VanVleet and Gary Trent Jr. — whom teams are monitoring. If the Raptors decide to rebuild and prepare to aim for the draft lottery by moving a couple of their key cornerstones, there will be a long list of suitors.

Without a doubt, the Raptors have the full attention of everyone across the NBA.

Toronto Raptors
The Suns and Magic have emerged as potential free-agent suitors for All-Star guard VanVleet, league sources say. VanVleet — the 2019 NBA champion and one of the league’s greatest undrafted success stories — spoke recently about his pending free-agency status in the offseason and how he remains focused on the Raptors: “I’m completely focused on his team. My loyalty is to this team and to this franchise and trying to get us back to the level that we’re accustomed to around here.”

Spurs center Jakob Poeltl has gained significant trade interest from teams such as the Toronto Raptors and Boston Celtics,

The Raptors, Los Angeles Lakers, New Orleans Pelicans, Milwaukee Bucks, Cleveland Cavaliers and Dallas Mavericks are among the teams registering interest in Detroit’s Bojan Bogdanović, league sources say.

Well if all this is true, then the Raptors are basically doing what I hope they do - focus most of your available money on someone who can play the 5 at a high level and fill in the PG spot with less investment and more of a filler spot. FVV for big money or even what he's getting paid now IMO is not the right move. Put that money into someone like Turner.

[InfraRedshaw]

We don't have to lose GTJ for nothing if we don't move him at the dead line, we could sign and trade, sign and eventually trade, sign and keep

taking pennies on the dollar because "we can't lose him for nothing" is still not good asset management

signing yourself up for 2nd worst case scenario to avoid the worst case scenario is not good planning

[bboyskinnylegs]

I really want pels and grizz to be in the market for og. A pick heavy return is what I want.

the only good pick between those two teams is the Lakers 2023 pick swap that the Pelicans own. Quality > quantity.

[Thaddy]

Gary and Bo Cruz for Max Christie, Pat Beverly, NOLA 1st rounder.

Nah f that lol

Lakers have to part with one of their OWN frps or nothing and even then I'd first go shop Gary to multiple other teams ie/ NYK, PHX and I'm even reading NOP are interested in Bojan. But I'd first look to move him for something with more immediate results despite the upside of a potentially high lottery pick 4+ years from now from LA. I wouldn't be mad if they made that decision because of course when that year comes (27'), we'd all be thrilled that we have a lottery pick but I still feel most people will want to see some form of young players growing/developing in his place so I'd work with the other teams for their 23' FRPs plus whatever other assets (in Pels case there are several younger players I'd gladly take straight up Daniels, Murphy and Jones although less so due to him expiring).

But that NOLA pick (23rd right now, could go back up with Zion & BI's health improving) is a waste imo & I just rather not with Bev, Christie is just whatever lol

That NOLA pick has the swap rights to the Lakers pick this year, so you're essentially trading for the Lakers pick. I'd do that deal. Lakers will get the NOLA spot. Next year NOLA has their own pick and the Lakers pick lol.

Setting up a dynasty for the Pelican's isn't ideal but if you get a Gobert/Mitchell level haul you have to consider it. Siakam was considered a MVP candidate before the freak injury against Dallas.

I'm not settling for anything less than Graham, Valanciunas, LAL 2023 1st pick swap, 2024 LAL 1st, Daniels, and Murphy. The package looks great on paper but I'm not sure if any of those pieces ever end up being better than what Siakam is now.

Valanciunas - Achiuwa - Koloko
Barnes - Boucher
OG - Murphy
Trent - Graham
FVV - Daniels

This team would be interesting to see with Barnes. You surround him with 4 3pt shooters, a big that can take care of banging in the paint for Scottie, and several bench shooters to provide starters rest. It could work out like the Rudy Gay trade that brought the Raptors into a new age.

[ciueli]

I'd still like to see us dump Fred + Otto + Birch + Boucher on the Lakers for Russell Westbrook and a pick. Could wind up clearing nearly $30M in cap space even if we retain Trent. Use the space to sign Myles Turner or Christian Wood in the offseason, we need a centre that can shoot near 40% from 3.

[navyblue]

I really want pels and grizz to be in the market for og. A pick heavy return is what I want.

the only good pick between those two teams is the Lakers 2023 pick swap that the Pelicans own. Quality > quantity.

It's a pipe dream to think that the lal pick this year will be included. An unprotected pick in a wemby draft. After lotto if it doesn't move up and if it's 7-8ish as projected the yes, but it's probably a non starter to bring it up this deadline.

Can ask for next Lakers pick, Memphis has gsw pick.

[agkagk]

As a fan base we really give Gary the short end of the stick.

We criticized him for being a bad finisher at the rim last season now look at this.

0-3ft FG%
2022: 57.9%
2023: 70.5%

3-10ft
2022: 41.5%
2023: 54.7%

Do we really want to do a straight swap for Poeltl? I guess it could be considered an economical move that keeps us under the tax.

I'm not the biggest Gary fan. But if he wants to stay, I say keep him for pure asset management.

But there are two parties at play here. If Trent doesn't want to resign but Poeltl wants to resign.. then?

I'm not sure that Poeltl is the best fit here. I feel like we need a centre in the mold of Turner who can stretch the floor while also being a strong rim protector. If we do get a traditional big I think we really need to focus on acquiring a lot of shooting to surround him because that's currently one of our roster's most glaring needs.

hes done nothing but improve and blossom right before our eyes.

he's the player im most excited about on this team. high iq, team player, can score from a multitude of ways. defends well. carries himself like a pro.

our fans suck and dont deserve nice things lol