Shams: Raps acquire Ingram for Brown + Olynyk + IND 1st

[WhatsaTDot]

Not the Indy pick ! Ha. It's juicy.

Well 3 factors for me,

What did we give up? The only asset was that Indy pick. I don't like giving up 1sts so we'll see.

Now, what do we sign him to and do we tank out the rest of the season?

Good news is we could very well be a playoff team next year

If the Pacers lose Turner they could be really bad. There aren't a lot of stretch Cs out there so there's potential for a bidding war.

The chance of that happening is lesser than keeping Ingram. We got a former all star that's just entering his prime for scraps and a mid first.

The worst case scenario is we can trade him for a better pick later. I see us load managing him while he's with us and saving him for the playoffs. He's a championship caliber first option.

The worst case scenario is much worse than that. We could win a bunch more games this year and end up in the play in. On the back of that, Miami or someone else could pay overs for BI in the offseason. And then Indiana pick could become something more valuable completely independent of what we want. There’s a lot of potential downside to it.

[CazOnReal]

For the ones that hate this trade

This is the reason why.

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The series where Zion was out and Ingram was playing through an injury?

[Duffman100]

Not the Indy pick ! Ha. It's juicy.

Well 3 factors for me,

What did we give up? The only asset was that Indy pick. I don't like giving up 1sts so we'll see.

Now, what do we sign him to and do we tank out the rest of the season?

Good news is we could very well be a playoff team next year

If the Pacers lose Turner they could be really bad. There aren't a lot of stretch Cs out there so there's potential for a bidding war.

The chance of that happening is lesser than keeping Ingram. We got a former all star that's just entering his prime for scraps and a mid first.

The worst case scenario is we can trade him for a better pick later. I see us load managing him while he's with us and saving him for the playoffs. He's a championship caliber first option.

Yeah I didn't want to give up that Indy pick but Ingram does immediately become our 2nd best player.

[Anticon]

In the end the Siakam trade turned out to be Ochai, Walter and Ingram. That’s a pretty decent haul. I also think Ingrams a better fit for Scottie compared to Siakam.

I agree. I'm not sure Ingram was the best use of the 2026 pick but if this had been the contours of the trade last year I don't think anyone would have been too upset.

I don't think they another tank year in them so I do get the move.

[Duffman100]

Not the Indy pick ! Ha. It's juicy.

Well 3 factors for me,

What did we give up? The only asset was that Indy pick. I don't like giving up 1sts so we'll see.

Now, what do we sign him to and do we tank out the rest of the season?

Good news is we could very well be a playoff team next year

If the Pacers lose Turner they could be really bad. There aren't a lot of stretch Cs out there so there's potential for a bidding war.

The chance of that happening is lesser than keeping Ingram. We got a former all star that's just entering his prime for scraps and a mid first.

The worst case scenario is we can trade him for a better pick later. I see us load managing him while he's with us and saving him for the playoffs. He's a championship caliber first option.

The worst case scenario is much worse than that. We could win a bunch more games this year and end up in the play in. On the back of that, Miami or someone else could pay overs for BI in the offseason. And then Indiana pick could become something more valuable completely independent of what we want. There’s a lot of potential downside to it.

I have to imagine they were given the ability to talk to Ingram and hash out a deal?

[720]

The Indy pick was top 4 protected I believe. So there was no chance that was going to get us AJ or any of the other top 4 projected prospects. It is likely going to be in that 15-23 range. Unless they like Turner and end up bad.

[WhatsaTDot]

If the Pacers lose Turner they could be really bad. There aren't a lot of stretch Cs out there so there's potential for a bidding war.

The chance of that happening is lesser than keeping Ingram. We got a former all star that's just entering his prime for scraps and a mid first.

The worst case scenario is we can trade him for a better pick later. I see us load managing him while he's with us and saving him for the playoffs. He's a championship caliber first option.

The worst case scenario is much worse than that. We could win a bunch more games this year and end up in the play in. On the back of that, Miami or someone else could pay overs for BI in the offseason. And then Indiana pick could become something more valuable completely independent of what we want. There’s a lot of potential downside to it.

I have to imagine they were given the ability to talk to Ingram and hash out a deal?

I agree but I’d like to have seen a commitment similar to what Butler did. Riley has shown to be quite the salesman in the offseason.

[Duffman100]

The worst case scenario is much worse than that. We could win a bunch more games this year and end up in the play in. On the back of that, Miami or someone else could pay overs for BI in the offseason. And then Indiana pick could become something more valuable completely independent of what we want. There’s a lot of potential downside to it.

I have to imagine they were given the ability to talk to Ingram and hash out a deal?

I agree but I’d like to have seen a commitment similar to what Butler did. Riley has shown to be quite the salesman in the offseason.

Well if we lose him in FA, Masai has to go. ha.

[TRik]

Yup. As others have said, happy with it as long as it doesn’t mess up our tank. Get a good draft pick and compete next year.

[Thaddy]

They wouldn't trade for him without discussing his contract. Either way we have his bird right and could bid more than anyone else, but at a certain point you have to cut your losses.

I wonder who the fourth option will end up being. It's most likely Barnes which signifies to me we're done with him jacking up 3s and being a scorer.

Ingram, Barrett, IQ, Barnes and finally Poeltl. This move also pushes Barnes into being a PF. I can sense Masai and Bobby have given up on him being an oversized guard. I don't blame them his shot, handle, and creation ability suck.

[Duffman100]

This is pretty funny.

"Garbage return for Siakam, the picks are low value"

trades a fraction of the return for Siakam for Ingram

"Garbage trade for Ingram, you don't deal that incredibly valuable pick".

[Thaddy]

This is pretty funny.

"Garbage return for Siakam, the picks are low value"

trades a fraction of the return for Siakam for Ingram

"Garbage trade for Ingram, you don't deal that incredibly valuable pick".

Masai is slowly increasing our value, he conformed to the market and bought a great piece at a cheap rate. We sold Siakam for Ingram and two mid first round prospects in Agbaji and Walter. The deal will get better from this point forward too we'll likely sell high on Agbaji and we have long term control of Jakobe. The depth on the roster is also looking really good.

[TGM]

By the next season people hating this trade will be walking with their tails between their legs. Ingram is a great talent and we got him for little. He will resign for sure. Outside of TMac he is one of the best scorers this team has ever had. TMac wasn’t that scorer yet with the Raptors. The guy is 27. His game is off finesse and not athleticism so will age better than people realize. Raptors are well positioned as a playoff team moving forward, but have the cap flexibility and assets to make another big trade if needed to make it a contender. This was the right move.

For those that think we overpaid and want to feel better. Ask yourself a simple question. If BI was being trsddd by Toronto and this is all we got back would you be looking to Fire Masai.

[Duffman100]

This is pretty funny.

"Garbage return for Siakam, the picks are low value"

trades a fraction of the return for Siakam for Ingram

"Garbage trade for Ingram, you don't deal that incredibly valuable pick".

Masai is slowly increasing our value, he conformed to the market and bought a great piece at a cheap rate. We sold Siakam for Ingram and two mid first round prospects in Agbaji and Walter. The deal will get better from this point forward too we'll likely sell high on Agbaji and we have long term control of Jakobe. The depth on the roster is also looking really good.

And **** it, bring back Boucher and let him retire a Raptor!

[TheRaptor!]

They wouldn't trade for him without discussing his contract. Either way we have his bird right and could bid more than anyone else, but at a certain point you have to cut your losses.

I wonder who the fourth option will end up being. It's most likely Barnes which signifies to me we're done with him jacking up 3s and being a scorer.

Ingram, Barrett, IQ, Barnes and finally Poeltl. This move also pushes Barnes into being a PF. I can sense Masai and Bobby have given up on him being an oversized guard. I don't blame them his shot, handle, and creation ability suck.

Thank god

best part of this season is the fanbase realizing who he really is.

If Barnes = Mobley
IQ and Barret = Garland
Then this is our Allen trade

We need to get our Donovan Mitchell too

[Shakril]

I hate it. BI is a walking Injury and he isnt good enough to put us into contending status. I would have understood if it is zion but BI?

[Senbonzakura]

They wouldn't trade for him without discussing his contract. Either way we have his bird right and could bid more than anyone else, but at a certain point you have to cut your losses.

I wonder who the fourth option will end up being. It's most likely Barnes which signifies to me we're done with him jacking up 3s and being a scorer.

Ingram, Barrett, IQ, Barnes and finally Poeltl. This move also pushes Barnes into being a PF. I can sense Masai and Bobby have given up on him being an oversized guard. I don't blame them his shot, handle, and creation ability suck.

Thank god

best part of this season is the fanbase realizing who he really is.

If Barnes = Mobley
IQ and Barret = Garland
Then this is our Allen trade

We need to get our Donovan Mitchell too

I am happy about it finally being confirmed for fans that Barnes isn't some superstar you can build around.

[Los_29]

So this basically means Masai didn't find any buyers for bb, kelly and the rest, so he became a buyer himself. Wtf is this trade ? Who's going to defend ? And why are we paying a unprotected frp while the Warriors only a trade protected frp for Jimmy Buckets. There must be another trade coming soon and it has to involve rj. Otherwise this doesn't make any sense.

Jimmy Butler is 36 years old and toxic. The only teams that wanted him are teams with incompetent management desperate to compete because they have a window that is about to close shut.

[NinjaBro]

This is pretty funny.

"Garbage return for Siakam, the picks are low value"

trades a fraction of the return for Siakam for Ingram

"Garbage trade for Ingram, you don't deal that incredibly valuable pick".

"But it's about the timing" - tWo

[Shakril]

Im mentally preparing for it to be our 2025 1st and bruce brown. Would be a disasterous and very plausible move lol

even nico harrison wouldn't do something so stupid. calm down

Id normally say youre right but 2 years ago we saw the Poetl trade...

People hating on that trade have simply no clue. It was in the context of competiting with the last core.

BI is beeing traded in a rebuilding year, for a Player that is always injured and has no value beyond of beeing "talented".