Chris Bosh Sign and Trade Ideas

[Wiz Khalifa]

is getting bynum in return for bosh even a possibility?

and why would LA want Bosh? is he that much better than what they need bynum to do? Pau barely gets enough touches as it is.

I don't think the Lakers would do Bynum for Bosh. Bosh is better than him but way more expensive and clearly not worth the price. Plus, Bynum is young and has a bright future ahead of him. If something were to happen I think it would be Gasol for Bosh which doesn't seem to good for us.

[bboyskinnylegs]

is getting bynum in return for bosh even a possibility?

and why would LA want Bosh? is he that much better than what they need bynum to do? Pau barely gets enough touches as it is.

I don't think the Lakers would do Bynum for Bosh. Bosh is better than him but way more expensive and clearly not worth the price. Plus, Bynum is young and has a bright future ahead of him. If something were to happen I think it would be Gasol for Bosh which doesn't seem to good for us.

So Bosh is good enough to net us the #1 and #27 picks from New Jersey who could sign him with capspace, but can't get us Bynum, from an LA team that can't get Bosh without BC's approval?

[kwamebargnani]

is getting bynum in return for bosh even a possibility?

and why would LA want Bosh? is he that much better than what they need bynum to do? Pau barely gets enough touches as it is.

I don't think the Lakers would do Bynum for Bosh. Bosh is better than him but way more expensive and clearly not worth the price. Plus, Bynum is young and has a bright future ahead of him. If something were to happen I think it would be Gasol for Bosh which doesn't seem to good for us.

If you think Gasol for Bosh isn't good for us (Lakers wouldn't do it btw), then you're in for a big disappointment. Let's get real people. We're not getting Bynum, Bosh, Aldridge, Noah or Brooks.

[prototype]

I don't know anything about salaries and trading but, if the Nets do land the number one pick and drafted Wall, we should make a pitch for Harris with Bosh. Have the Nets give us their expirings or TPE to make the salaries match

For Bosh, it would help Bosh's business and exposure since he would be playing for Jay-Z and he has a lot of hook ups. It would also mean he would be closer to his new girlfriend. Nets look a lot more appealing to pay for than the Knicks if they do decide to give us Gallo and Lee. All they'll left with are Douglas, Walker and Chandler. I'd rather play with Lopez, Wall, Lee and CDR. And if I'm not mistaken, the Nets would still have enough to spend on a wing so they could pick up Gay or Johnson along the way so that would make the Nets playoff bound.

For the Raptors, with the core we would be left with, playing a higher tempo would masked a lot of our deficiencies on our defense end. We're not going to get someone of Paul's caliber so Harris would be the ideal choice. He's been proven to be able to break down the d and set up easy shots for players like Dirk, Vince and Jefferson so doing it for Andrea, DD, and Weems wouldn't be a problem. And I think Turk would have a lot less trouble playing with him than Jose since Harris' game is a lot like Jameer's.

[bboyskinnylegs]

I don't know anything about salaries and trading but, if the Nets do land the number one pick and drafted Wall, we should make a pitch for Harris with Bosh. Have the Nets give us their expirings or TPE to make the salaries match

For Bosh, it would help Bosh's business and exposure since he would be playing for Jay-Z and he has a lot of hook ups. It would also mean he would be closer to his new girlfriend. Nets look a lot more appealing to pay for than the Knicks if they do decide to give us Gallo and Lee. All they'll left with are Douglas, Walker and Chandler. I'd rather play with Lopez, Wall, Lee and CDR. And if I'm not mistaken, the Nets would still have enough to spend on a wing so they could pick up Gay or Johnson along the way so that would make the Nets playoff bound.

For the Raptors, with the core we would be left with, playing a higher tempo would masked a lot of our deficiencies on our defense end. We're not going to get someone of Paul's caliber so Harris would be the ideal choice. He's been proven to be able to break down the d and set up easy shots for players like Dirk, Vince and Jefferson so doing it for Andrea, DD, and Weems wouldn't be a problem. And I think Turk would have a lot less trouble playing with him than Jose since Harris' game is a lot like Jameer's.

I'd rather do a salary dump with NO to get Collison, than take on Harris without Bosh on the team. This kid can run a team, he put up 19.2ppg/9.5apg in the 28 game stretch where he started, and still managed to average more than both of our PGs in his rookie season as Chris Paul's backup. I'd rather have Collison @ 22 years old, locked up for 5.2 million for the next 3 years, shooting 47% from the field (40% from 3), than a 27-year old Harris, still owed 27 million over the same period, shooting 40% (27% from 3).

[MA29]

I don't know anything about salaries and trading but, if the Nets do land the number one pick and drafted Wall, we should make a pitch for Harris with Bosh. Have the Nets give us their expirings or TPE to make the salaries match

For Bosh, it would help Bosh's business and exposure since he would be playing for Jay-Z and he has a lot of hook ups. It would also mean he would be closer to his new girlfriend. Nets look a lot more appealing to pay for than the Knicks if they do decide to give us Gallo and Lee. All they'll left with are Douglas, Walker and Chandler. I'd rather play with Lopez, Wall, Lee and CDR. And if I'm not mistaken, the Nets would still have enough to spend on a wing so they could pick up Gay or Johnson along the way so that would make the Nets playoff bound.

For the Raptors, with the core we would be left with, playing a higher tempo would masked a lot of our deficiencies on our defense end. We're not going to get someone of Paul's caliber so Harris would be the ideal choice. He's been proven to be able to break down the d and set up easy shots for players like Dirk, Vince and Jefferson so doing it for Andrea, DD, and Weems wouldn't be a problem. And I think Turk would have a lot less trouble playing with him than Jose since Harris' game is a lot like Jameer's.

I'd rather do a salary dump with NO to get Collison, than take on Harris without Bosh on the team. This kid can run a team, he put up 19.2ppg/9.5apg in the 28 game stretch where he started, and still managed to average more than both of our PGs in his rookie season as Chris Paul's backup. I'd rather have Collison @ 22 years old, locked up for 5.2 million for the next 3 years, shooting 47% from the field (40% from 3), than a 27-year old Harris, still owed 27 million over the same period, shooting 40% (27% from 3).

If they even think about trading collison they will package all theyre bad contracts too cus collison is a HUUUUGE ASSET playing for very little money

[bboyskinnylegs]

I don't know anything about salaries and trading but, if the Nets do land the number one pick and drafted Wall, we should make a pitch for Harris with Bosh. Have the Nets give us their expirings or TPE to make the salaries match

For Bosh, it would help Bosh's business and exposure since he would be playing for Jay-Z and he has a lot of hook ups. It would also mean he would be closer to his new girlfriend. Nets look a lot more appealing to pay for than the Knicks if they do decide to give us Gallo and Lee. All they'll left with are Douglas, Walker and Chandler. I'd rather play with Lopez, Wall, Lee and CDR. And if I'm not mistaken, the Nets would still have enough to spend on a wing so they could pick up Gay or Johnson along the way so that would make the Nets playoff bound.

For the Raptors, with the core we would be left with, playing a higher tempo would masked a lot of our deficiencies on our defense end. We're not going to get someone of Paul's caliber so Harris would be the ideal choice. He's been proven to be able to break down the d and set up easy shots for players like Dirk, Vince and Jefferson so doing it for Andrea, DD, and Weems wouldn't be a problem. And I think Turk would have a lot less trouble playing with him than Jose since Harris' game is a lot like Jameer's.

I'd rather do a salary dump with NO to get Collison, than take on Harris without Bosh on the team. This kid can run a team, he put up 19.2ppg/9.5apg in the 28 game stretch where he started, and still managed to average more than both of our PGs in his rookie season as Chris Paul's backup. I'd rather have Collison @ 22 years old, locked up for 5.2 million for the next 3 years, shooting 47% from the field (40% from 3), than a 27-year old Harris, still owed 27 million over the same period, shooting 40% (27% from 3).

If they even think about trading collison they will package all theyre bad contracts too cus collison is a HUUUUGE ASSET playing for very little money

The way I see it they'll probably move Collison attached with Okafor, Peja, or Posey+one of their bad expirings (Songaila or MoPete). I believe those moves would offer significant relief to help bring NO under the tax. If Bosh leaves us and we get a big TPE, I'd love it if we could use it on Peja+Collison, because we'd get a huge 2011 expiring contract which we can try to move at the deadline for a good player on a long contract, or yet another salary dump for a prospect/pick. With the situation the team is in with the owner trying to sell the team, they are barely treading water and some moves are going to happen soon. At least this way they keep their franchise in Paul, it would be a real shame if he gets moved for salary relief (unless of course if he comes to the Raps )

[pass first]

Ginobili, Blair, filler, (pick?) for Bosh

Raptors:

Jack/Calderon
Ginobili/DeRozan
Turkoglu/Weems
Amir/Blair
Bargnani/#13

better defense, enough scoring, hopefully a good back up C. Blair is a great rebounder.
Obviously more trades can be made plus an MLE signed.

Spurs:

Parker/Hill
???/Hill
Jefferson/rookie
Bosh/Gooden?
Duncan/McDyess

Jefferson is expiring so tradeable. maybe they can get Iggy, or whoever. sign a good role player like Barnes. point is they have a new big three. And the newest of the big 3 is the youngest of the 3, so basicly a new franchise player for the future.

btw they can have Belinelli I guess, poor man's Ginobili lol

[Khan]

Ginobili, Blair, filler, (pick?) for Bosh

Raptors:

Jack/Calderon
Ginobili/DeRozan
Turkoglu/Weems
Amir/Blair
Bargnani/#13

better defense, enough scoring, hopefully a good back up C. Blair is a great rebounder.
Obviously more trades can be made plus an MLE signed.

Spurs:

Parker/Hill
???/Hill
Jefferson/rookie
Bosh/Gooden?
Duncan/McDyess

Jefferson is expiring so tradeable. maybe they can get Iggy, or whoever. sign a good role player like Barnes. point is they have a new big three. And the newest of the big 3 is the youngest of the 3, so basicly a new franchise player for the future.

btw they can have Belinelli I guess, poor man's Ginobili lol

I have a similar idea, but Spurs won't trade Ginobili for sure.

George Hill/DeJuan Blair/Richard Jefferson

for

Chris Bosh

and we turn around and trade Jose Calderon/Richard Jefferson

for

Andre Iguodala/Samuel Dalembert

Raptors:
Hill/Jack
DeRozan/Jack
Iguodala/Hedo
Bargnani/Blair
Dalembert/Amir

76ers:
Jrue Holiday/Calderon
Louis Williams/Jefferson/Green
Jefferson/Young
Elton Brand/Young
Speight/Smith

Spurs:
Parker/Temple
Ginobili/FA
Bogans/FA
Bosh/McDyess
Duncan/Bonner

[Death Knight]

There's no doubt that it's going to be a sign and trade. The number 1 reason why I don't think Bosh is staying is not because he doesn't want to play for a mediocre Raptors team anymore and wants to go to a winning team, but because I'm just not convinced that the Raptors' organization is committed to giving Bosh a max contract to stay onboard. I've heard enough BC interviews that have lead me to come to this conclusion. BC has indeed said that they would like to have Bosh back, but not once has he said that they are willing to keep Bosh for max money. When asked about Bosh and max money, BC has always shifted his answer to say that someone else or some other team is going to give him the max.........that kind of answer has never made itself to include his own team, the Toronto Raptors.

It's no longer a matter of whether or not Bosh wants to stay or not. It's also a matter of the Raptors and whether they want to bring Bosh back and at what price. Obviously Bosh isn't staying in Toronto for anything less than a max contract, and I don't get the feeling that the Raptors are committed to giving him one, which is why, imo, Bosh is 100% going to be playing for a new team next season.

[princeofpalace]

What about something like

Detroit trades: Prince, Wilcox, #7
Detroit gets: Bosh
Dumars convices Bosh that he is the missing piece to Detroit getting back atop EC

NOH gets: Prince, Wilcox
NOH gives: Okafor, Songalia
Okafor sheds salary

Raps get: Okafor, Songalia, 7
Raps give: Bosh
Raps get a defensive C and rights to a high lotto pick

[perik777]

what about portland?

Chris Bosh and Bellineli
for
Aldridge, Pryzbilla and Fernandez

It works financially and not really bad from a talent point of view

[ATLTimekeeper]

What about something like

Detroit trades: Prince, Wilcox, #7
Detroit gets: Bosh
Dumars convices Bosh that he is the missing piece to Detroit getting back atop EC

NOH gets: Prince, Wilcox
NOH gives: Okafor, Songalia
Okafor sheds salary

Raps get: Okafor, Songalia, 7
Raps give: Bosh
Raps get a defensive C and rights to a high lotto pick

This isn't gonna get it done. Prince would be better for us. Okafor isn't much of an upgrade defensively over Bargnani and on a terrible contract (also a career loser).

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=1004858&start=0

[miamiballer]

beasley, cook, chalmers, future 1st back for bosh

you can try out beasley at sf...he has a lot of talent but will never realize it in miami...for miami, we get bosh and free extra cap

you can start amir next to bargs up front and hope that beasley develops into a melo type at sf

[princeofpalace]

^
Ok fine than Prince, Maxiel + 7 in Joe D could pull the wool over Boshs eye

[miamiballer]

i dont know why bosh would want to go to det though

[princeofpalace]

^
If Joe D could convince Bosh that if Pistons were healthy for even half the season they would have been a better team. Dumars does have a way with players and a history of winning. This season, Detroit was devastated by injury though. It would take a lot of wooing by Dumars though

[miamiballer]

i guess but i think bosh would have much better options, namely chicago, miami, lakers and the texas teams

[ATLTimekeeper]

^
Ok fine than Prince, Maxiel + 7 in Joe D could pull the wool over Boshs eye

Why would we take on Maxiel's contract? The Raptors beat the Pistons with and without Bosh, I don't know why he'd see them as a better option.

EDIT: If Bosh wanted to play there I would definitely take #7, Prince and another expiring. I mean, it's better than nothing, but the Raps wouldn't take on a bad contract for nothing.

[RonaldArtest]

The deal that makes the most sense for the Raptors, Bosh and the team he's going to is Houston. If we could swing a deal like:

S&T Bosh (max deal)
Hedo Turkoglu

for

Shane Battier
Jordan Hill
Kyle Lowry
Knicks' 2011 1st round pick (top 1 protected)

And whatever salary ballast needed to the deal to make it CBA-approved.

Bosh heads to his home state and still is the number 1 guy (with Yao taking on a David Robinson role when they drafted Duncan). He gets a max deal and the team he heads to isn't gutted for him. He finally plays for a bonafide NBA coach. He has another player who can create his own shot and help with the scoring burden in Kevin Martin. It's ideal.

Houston lands a franchise type player without trading any of their true key players (Martin, Yao & Brooks). They have to take on Hedo's deal as added incentive for us, but he's played under Adelman before in their Sac-town days IIRC, so maybe he'd be able to get the most out of him a la SVG. I think he'd make a fine 6th man there, and a line-up of Brooks-Martin-Ariza-Bosh-Yao would be title contenders.

For us, we get a guy who has an $8M expiring deal and is the prototypical "BC-guy". Combined with Banks and Evans, we'd be able to take a salary back from a team in dire need of financial help (Iggy, Collison + Posey, etc). Not only that, but adding a guy like Battier would be great for our weak perimeter defence, and he could definitely teach the young guys a thing or two to help spur their development.

Lowry can come in and start for this team. His game reminds me of Alvin Williams, and the fans here would instantly love him. Lowry and Jack would make a fine PG combo, and we could ship Calderon off.

Jordan Hill is a PF who plays similar to Bosh. He's a nice prospect to add on a relatively cheap deal. That NYK pick could be worth gold if their off-season plans don't go as smooth as they hope.

Oh, and we also get rid of Hedo's huge deal and Bosh heads out of our conference, which is great.

To me this deal, or a close alternative, makes the most sense for all involved.