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highness wrote:DD doesn't play like your prototypical 2 but at the end of the day you start your best and most effective players and thats why DD starts. Marco Belinelli plays more like your typical 2 but would he start over DD? HAHA No.
highness wrote:fredericklove wrote:
I don't put balanced analysis and honest evaluation of a draft prospect? Lol. Sure I love to argue, but I've neutrally made so many balanced analysis of players in the past draft threads, ask anyone in case you don't know much about me.
No, people say they worry about one or two holes in Lamb's game, ignoring the other strengths and make quick conclusion labeling these as legitimate reasons why he should not be drafted or why he'll be a crappy player, if people say us lamb fans ignore weaknesses which I personally haven't ignored his many obvious weaknesses if you just go back to few pages ago. But for those who make claims on us lamb fans ignoring things like that, then that goes the same to people that ignore his strengths.
http://www.thecheapseats.ca/2012/06/uconns-jeremy-lamb-would-be-a-terrible-fit-with-the-toronto-raptors.htmlFun fact: Lamb had more games last season with zero free throw attempts (6) than he did with zero three-point attempts (0).
Which brings us to Lamb’s questionable shot selection in general. Lamb shot 6.2 threes per game last season, yet he connected on only 2.1 of them, good for 33.6%. Based off of last year’s stats, that would rank him as the sixth-best three-point shooter on the Raptors, a team hardly known for its three-point acumen. Last summer, playing with Team USA’s U19 World Championship squad (that finished fifth), he shot 29.4% from three. Keep in mind, both of those three-point lines are shorter than the ones he’ll face in the NBA.
It’s not the percentage that stands out, though, it’s the sheer number of threes Lamb took. For someone as athletic as Lamb, with the array of moves he has at his disposal, to settle for that many threes is a galling waste of talent, and it speaks to his overall disinterest in playing an aggressive brand of basketball. Again, this is a guy that shoots just 3.6 free throws per game, but manages to get off 6.2 threes at a mediocre percentage and he’s a desirable fit for the Raptors? I don’t think so.How about his defense, though? Since you probably think that I’m harboring a grudge towards Lamb at this point, here is how Walker Beeken from DraftExpress describes Lamb’s defense:
“His energy on this end looked very inconsistent this season, however, not displaying the competitiveness, fundamentals and attention to detail that will likely be demanded from him at the NBA level, particularly off the ball.”It’s also worth remembering that, in addition to Lamb’s penchant for firing up lazy shots, he doesn’t make up for it by making plays for others. He averaged just 1.7 assists per game last season, 45th on DraftExpress’s Top 100 and 18th out of 22 shooting guards on that list. He had the third-worst assist-to-FGA ratio of the 22 shooting guards and he averaged 2.0 turnovers against those 1.7 assists. That means that when Lamb has the ball he’s most likely to turn it over than he is to make an assist.
So not that great of a 3 point shooter, doesn't get to the free throw line, doesn't attack the basket, settles for long jumpers, doesn't create for his teammates, lacklustre attitude. Like I said before his game may look sexy on paper but in reality it's not. I'd rather take Dion Waiters if we must draft a 2.
fredericklove wrote:shortmikeshortt wrote:I know every counter argument you have for him now back to front, we get it. You like Lamb.
Yeah I like him of course, but he has flaws and I've admitted that. Do you see me going "oh, I just found out that this guy has zero flaws". Nope, I'm pretty logical. If one who claimed a prospect has zero flaw and w/ other ppl that agree to that statement, then they're all clearly illogical.
shortmikeshortt wrote:
Yes but I read 100s of anti Lillard comments a day and leave it be...your obsession with countering or snapping back at EVERY...SINGLE...Lamb weakness post is just exhausting...
shortmikeshortt wrote:fredericklove wrote:shortmikeshortt wrote:I know every counter argument you have for him now back to front, we get it. You like Lamb.
Yeah I like him of course, but he has flaws and I've admitted that. Do you see me going "oh, I just found out that this guy has zero flaws". Nope, I'm pretty logical. If one who claimed a prospect has zero flaw and w/ other ppl that agree to that statement, then they're all clearly illogical.
You ignored the first half of my post, which was my main point.
shortmikeshortt wrote:You know what man? I've just been out all night...had a fair bit to drink...so came home to my raps realgm...where I feel safe...and I apologise for my anti Fredrick posting, I enjoy your posts...I like Lamb..man I hope Lamb is the bomb...the point is...we are all in this together...this is just petty...this being a raptors fan thing...its a curse sometimes...so who the F*** is anyone to call anyone out about ANYHING positive about ANYONE who may be a raptor soon...why the hell do we get fired up if someone says "Lillard is the bomb!"...or if someone says Lamb is gonna be an allstar...or if someone suggests PJ3 a future HOFer...they are ALL potential raptors...we should embrace each and every one of them....we are united in our common interest...i will continue to lose sleep before draft night no matter what...one love homie
JamesNaismith wrote:shortmikeshortt wrote:You know what man? I've just been out all night...had a fair bit to drink...so came home to my raps realgm...where I feel safe...and I apologise for my anti Fredrick posting, I enjoy your posts...I like Lamb..man I hope Lamb is the bomb...the point is...we are all in this together...this is just petty...this being a raptors fan thing...its a curse sometimes...so who the F*** is anyone to call anyone out about ANYHING positive about ANYONE who may be a raptor soon...why the hell do we get fired up if someone says "Lillard is the bomb!"...or if someone says Lamb is gonna be an allstar...or if someone suggests PJ3 a future HOFer...they are ALL potential raptors...we should embrace each and every one of them....we are united in our common interest...i will continue to lose sleep before draft night no matter what...one love homie
LMAO!! Awesome post!
I feel you man.
shortmikeshortt wrote:JamesNaismith wrote:shortmikeshortt wrote:You know what man? I've just been out all night...had a fair bit to drink...so came home to my raps realgm...where I feel safe...and I apologise for my anti Fredrick posting, I enjoy your posts...I like Lamb..man I hope Lamb is the bomb...the point is...we are all in this together...this is just petty...this being a raptors fan thing...its a curse sometimes...so who the F*** is anyone to call anyone out about ANYHING positive about ANYONE who may be a raptor soon...why the hell do we get fired up if someone says "Lillard is the bomb!"...or if someone says Lamb is gonna be an allstar...or if someone suggests PJ3 a future HOFer...they are ALL potential raptors...we should embrace each and every one of them....we are united in our common interest...i will continue to lose sleep before draft night no matter what...one love homie
LMAO!! Awesome post!
I feel you man.
haha naismith! i reckon we had one or two disagreements too..i love you for being a raptors fan...thats all that matters bro
Dr Mufasa wrote:What would you rather have...
- A player with star talent but a soft/non-alpha dog mentality?
- A player with a hard, alpha dog mentality but role player talent?
I'm taking the first one every time. Jeremy Lamb is Greg Monroe going 7th, Rudy Gay going 8th come again IMO.
This would be very true if the rest of the guys at 8 were, as you suggest, role player talents, and also if Lamb were indeed, as you also suggest, star talent. However, since neither of those things are actually true, or at least in the sort of categorical way you imply they are, I can safely ignore this whole argument.Fenris-77 wrote:Dr Mufasa wrote:What would you rather have...
- A player with star talent but a soft/non-alpha dog mentality?
- A player with a hard, alpha dog mentality but role player talent?
I'm taking the first one every time. Jeremy Lamb is Greg Monroe going 7th, Rudy Gay going 8th come again IMO.
I love a false dichotomy.
It's a well turned bit of rhetorical hokum though, I'll give you that.
<--- May 22 2012Dr Mufasa wrote: I wouldn't bet any of my personal money on Valanciunas being in the NBA after his rookie contract.
Kid Canada wrote:How is Lamb more talented than Rivers? Rivers is a year younger remember. Lamb was not the top player in his high school class either.
<--- May 22 2012Dr Mufasa wrote: I wouldn't bet any of my personal money on Valanciunas being in the NBA after his rookie contract.
Jeremy Lamb - G - Player
The Trail Blazers were one of "many teams" who were disappointed with Connecticut SG Jeremy Lamb's pre-draft workouts.
Lamb acknowledged that teams want to see his "motor" and whether he can stand up to NBA contact, and he didn't help himself by failing to shoot well during drills. Another strike against him for Portland came during a media interview -- when asked whether he knew "anything about" the Blazers, he struggled to name LaMarcus Aldridge, then said he knew of "the light-skinned dude," who turned out to be Nicolas Batum.
bigdirty wrote:"The light-skinned dude". lol
He must be thinking of Joel Pryzbilla.
