2020-21 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[DangerZone13]

So Siakam/Boucher(possibly our 2nds) to GS for Wiggins/Wiseman/#7/#14, yeah?

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[Bruin]

So Siakam/Boucher(possibly our 2nds) to GS for Wiggins/Wiseman/#7/#14, yeah?

Nope. That’s a terrible package for Siakam AND Boucher. I wouldn’t do it for just Siakam alone

We’d be lucky if the guys taken at 7 and 14 ever become as good as Siakam and Wiseman was underwhelming

Wiggins isn’t a positive asset, he’s just salary filler to make a deal work

I’d be asking for a future pick in addition to that package if we were to even entertain such a deal

[Clutch0z24]

Man im loving the way this team is going atm, I like FVV/Suggs(Who we prolly get)/GT/Flynn I just am kinda worried on the Size of our backcourt atm...Will FVV And Suggs work? I know Lowry/FVV is decent but when we won the Chip we started Green who was a bigger Guard and had FVV as the 6th man...

Im torn on if we move on from FVV get some good assets back to let Suggs run the show here or keep him ...Cause i love me some FVV

[Spida888]

So Siakam/Boucher(possibly our 2nds) to GS for Wiggins/Wiseman/#7/#14, yeah?

Nope. That’s a terrible package for Siakam AND Boucher. I wouldn’t do it for just Siakam alone

We’d be lucky if the guys taken at 7 and 14 ever become as good as Siakam and Wiseman was underwhelming

Wiggins isn’t a positive asset, he’s just salary filler to make a deal work

I’d be asking for a future pick in addition to that package if we were to even entertain such a deal

Yeah no to that deal. I would only deal Siakam for a top 5 pick, now that it's #7 nah.

Boucher for #14 on the other hand, if GSW is desperate .

[durka]

Man im loving the way this team is going atm, I like FVV/Suggs(Who we prolly get)/GT/Flynn I just am kinda worried on the Size of our backcourt atm...Will FVV And Suggs work? I know Lowry/FVV is decent but when we won the Chip we started Green who was a bigger Guard and had FVV as the 6th man...

Im torn on if we move on from FVV get some good assets back to let Suggs run the show here or keep him ...Cause i love me some FVV

If Fred can work with Lowry size wont be the issue with Suggs. The reality is, Fred's at his best when he's moving off the ball and finding his spots. Having a bigger guard like Suggs who can play the lead role is the ideal situation for him.

At the very least he's going to be here a couple years to play the mentor role like Kyle did for him. Freddy's not going anywhere.

[raptorforlife88]

Trading Siakam for anything besides a top three pick is dumb.

As for the Raptors pick. Barring any other wild offers, SGA is really the only player I'd love to deal for it if we don't use it ourselves. He's a star.

[ash_k]

okay, Orlando Magics fall in love with Suggs&Mobley, really desperate to get one of them:
>4th pick for 5th pick & 8th

>Then we go to the Pacers 5th pick for Turner +13th

End up with 8th pick + 13th and Myles Turner.
#tradethepick

[Rapsfan07]

okay, Orlando Magics fall in love with Suggs&Mobley, really desperate to get one of them:
>4th pick for 5th pick & 8th

>Then we go to the Pacers 5th pick for Turner +13th

End up with 8th pick + 13th and Myles Turner.
#tradethepick

I've long been an advocate for acquiring Turner. I actually wanted to trade this pick if we stayed at 7 or moved back, which was the likeliest outcome. But now, it's not a move I would make.

We're guarantee to get one of Suggs, Green or Mobley at this point and all 3 of them look like they could be franchise guys. I wouldn't give that up for Myles Turner, especially when you consider the talent gap between the Top 5 and the rest of the draft.

I don't believe Turner is enough to make up for that.

[ash_k]

okay, Orlando Magics fall in love with Suggs&Mobley, really desperate to get one of them:
>4th pick for 5th pick & 8th

>Then we go to the Pacers 5th pick for Turner +13th

End up with 8th pick + 13th and Myles Turner.
#tradethepick

I've long been an advocate for acquiring Turner. I actually wanted to trade this pick if we stayed at 7 or moved back, which was the likeliest outcome. But now, it's not a move I would make.

We're guarantee to get one of Suggs, Green or Mobley at this point and all 3 of them look like they could be franchise guys. I wouldn't give that up for Myles Turner, especially when you consider the talent gap between the Top 5 and the rest of the draft.

I don't believe Turner is enough to make up for that.

Very interesting. But I will need further evidence to see what you see regarding the' Franchise guys' status. I just don't see it right now.

Could you really turn down 4th pick for 8th pick + 13th and Myles Turner(just turned 25)?

[Morris_Shatford]

So Siakam/Boucher(possibly our 2nds) to GS for Wiggins/Wiseman/#7/#14, yeah?

I don't see Siakam being move yet;
However I could see Boucher going to the Warriors on draft night.

[islandboy53]

So Siakam/Boucher(possibly our 2nds) to GS for Wiggins/Wiseman/#7/#14, yeah?

No.

[PT416]

So Siakam/Boucher(possibly our 2nds) to GS for Wiggins/Wiseman/#7/#14, yeah?

I would do that for Siakam alone if the prospects make sense. The most I'd do beyond that is Flynn or Harris. Boucher going forward at the 4 is a great option for us.

Suggs/FVV/OG/Boucher/Wiseman
Flynn/Harris/Trent/Wiggins/Birch + 7th pick + 14th pick + Our Free Agent Signing

If there's a prospect at 7 that looks like a stud and a rotation guy at 14th, PLUS Wiseman, who has major upside, we're never getting better value for Siakam than that. But it really all depends on if we see someone worth taking at 7.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

okay, Orlando Magics fall in love with Suggs&Mobley, really desperate to get one of them:
>4th pick for 5th pick & 8th

>Then we go to the Pacers 5th pick for Turner +13th

End up with 8th pick + 13th and Myles Turner.
#tradethepick

So we come out of the draft with role players (including Myles Turner). Treadmill team here we come

[ash_k]

okay, Orlando Magics fall in love with Suggs&Mobley, really desperate to get one of them:
>4th pick for 5th pick & 8th

>Then we go to the Pacers 5th pick for Turner +13th

End up with 8th pick + 13th and Myles Turner.
#tradethepick

So we come out of the draft with role players (including Myles Turner). Treadmill team here we come

So was TWO lying when they kept saying how DEEP that draft will be as one of the reasons to "tank"?

[UnbelievablyRAW]

okay, Orlando Magics fall in love with Suggs&Mobley, really desperate to get one of them:
>4th pick for 5th pick & 8th

>Then we go to the Pacers 5th pick for Turner +13th

End up with 8th pick + 13th and Myles Turner.
#tradethepick

So we come out of the draft with role players (including Myles Turner). Treadmill team here we come

So was TWO lying when they kept saying how DEEP that draft will be as one of the reasons to "tank"?

I don't care about TWO, I just know Turner doesn't raise our ceiling and no one outside of the top 4 in this draft look like sure bets. We'd be taking a lot of raw talents when we could draft a damn near sure thing on a rookie deal that fills a position of need anyway. Any of Green, Suggs or Mobley plug a hole the Raptors have

[ash_k]

So we come out of the draft with role players (including Myles Turner). Treadmill team here we come

So was TWO lying when they kept saying how DEEP that draft will be as one of the reasons to "tank"?

I don't care about TWO, I just know Turner doesn't raise our ceiling and no one outside of the top 4 in this draft look like sure bets. We'd be taking a lot of raw talents when we could draft a damn near sure thing on a rookie deal that fills a position of need anyway. Any of Green, Suggs or Mobley plug a hole the Raptors have

Myles Turner has DPOY potential and is a stretch 5 and just turned 25. He has been awaiting to be unleashed: If this does not raise our ceiling then I don't what does (certainly not rookies with no particularly "franchise changing" talent).

[UnbelievablyRAW]

So was TWO lying when they kept saying how DEEP that draft will be as one of the reasons to "tank"?

I don't care about TWO, I just know Turner doesn't raise our ceiling and no one outside of the top 4 in this draft look like sure bets. We'd be taking a lot of raw talents when we could draft a damn near sure thing on a rookie deal that fills a position of need anyway. Any of Green, Suggs or Mobley plug a hole the Raptors have

Myles Turner has DPOY potential and is a stretch 5 and just turned 25. He has been awaiting to be unleashed: If this does not raise our ceiling then I don't what does (certainly not rookies with no particularly "franchise changing" talent).

You think Myles Turner has more potential to raise the ceiling of our franchise over one of Suggs or Green?

[gerrit4]

Assuming we get Suggs or Green, I think the direction of this team starts to get a lot clearer.

In Free agency, we can chase after some big bodies. Potentially, we could get 2 of Olynyk, Birch and Noel, or throw a big offer at Holmes.

It's realistic to go into the season with:

Fred/Malachi
Jalen/GTJ/Harris
OG/Yuta
Pascal/Boucher
Olynyk/Birch/Freddie


That's pretty good! Not quite back to contention, but it's an exciting team that can score, create and defend. We'd suddenly be deep again and actually be able to win games when there are injuries. A front-line of Boucher/Birch/Olynyk/Freddie can tide us over pretty well until Pascal gets healthy. The big weakness obviously is in defending the big centres like Embiid & Jokic, but I think that roster would be really good.

GTJ would either start, or be a really good six man. Harris would still have an opportunity to get minutes. We'd also (in theory) have some nice tradable assets if we need it. This roster starts to remind me of what we had the year before the championship - good young players, depth in all positions, and enough pieces to make moves for upgrades.

I like Mobley a lot too, and if we were to get him, we could either re-sign Kyle or try to sign a guard like Dinwiddie.

[ash_k]

I don't care about TWO, I just know Turner doesn't raise our ceiling and no one outside of the top 4 in this draft look like sure bets. We'd be taking a lot of raw talents when we could draft a damn near sure thing on a rookie deal that fills a position of need anyway. Any of Green, Suggs or Mobley plug a hole the Raptors have

Myles Turner has DPOY potential and is a stretch 5 and just turned 25. He has been awaiting to be unleashed: If this does not raise our ceiling then I don't what does (certainly not rookies with no particularly "franchise changing" talent).

You think Myles Turner has more potential to raise the ceiling of our franchise over one of Suggs or Green?

>Suggs played on a staked team under this season's NCAA standards. No elite athleticism, no elite quickness, no elite 3pt shooting, long torso PGs have limitations.

>Jalen has the elite potential and talent, but he will need to develop physically. He is too young for our roster.

As long as we are building around FVV, OG and Siakam..we have to keep building on our strength. Those 3 are some of the best defenders in their respective positions in the entire league. I would much rather add a young, long and athletic Stretch 5 with DPOY potential (with playoff experience) to that core, to keep building on our strength.
#tradethepick