2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2.0

[Madhouse]

Siakam is playing so well right now, I can only see him getting moved for a talent like Wembanyama in 23. The 22 draft is too weak for us to consider it imo.

[Sticks]

Come in peace, but if PDX moves up to, say, #3 and is dedicated to a win-now w/ Dame would TOR consider:

Eric Bledsoe, Justice Winslow, #3 for Pascal?

Nope, We aren't getting rid of Siakam for #3.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Come in peace, but if PDX moves up to, say, #3 and is dedicated to a win-now w/ Dame would TOR consider:

Eric Bledsoe, Justice Winslow, #3 for Pascal?

Appreciate the offer but I doubt Masai does it. Bledsoe coming off a Achilles injury doesn't hold much value (I don't think you could unguarantee his contract after trading him) and Winslow is decent but where is his fit? I mean who would Toronto be happy with at #3? I don't think Ivey has much value to Toronto as they have Trent Jr and Banchero I don't like he's going to be a fine offensive player but I feel like a minus defensive player in the NBA.

I think Chet is gone #1 his upside is just too much to pass up on and Jabari Smith #2 both of them to me have the greatest upside

[billy_hoyle]

Come in peace, but if PDX moves up to, say, #3 and is dedicated to a win-now w/ Dame would TOR consider:

Eric Bledsoe, Justice Winslow, #3 for Pascal?

I'd consider it. Seems like fair value to me. Doubt Masai would consider it tho. Think he wants to win now, not make a talent reset type move.

[grant101]

I wonder if OKC might be willing to part with Lu Dort? Might be a chance for them to clear the decks for some of their other prospects, including whomever they draft this year. They could also avoid having to pay him in free agency.

He'd fit in seamlessly into our system and roster behind GTJ. Do you think they'd go for Khem, Flynn and a 2023 or 2024 first?

I'd prefer 2024, cause next year's draft is loaded.

[Madhouse]

The draft also has too many forwards at the top. Maybe there would be a chance if Chet is on the board and Toronto is very high on him to deal Siakam for him but still unlikely.

[DangerZone13]

Here's a little draft day action:
With Memphis having killed it this year, I dont see that they'll want to develop 3 picks (22,29, 47) going into next year, and maybe one can be pried loose?

Something like:

Tor in: #29, #47
Mem in: Flynn, #33

Gives Memphis some assurance with Tyus Jones being a FA. Flynn shows up well when called on, but doesn't see much opportunity, and is expendable by way of not being ideal for "Vision 6'9" ". The cap flexibility with a 2nd vs a 1st might interest them as well if they dont see much difference in a few picks.
Raptors get an extra dip in the bargain bin to see what they can dig up.

[ruckus]

I think Slo Mo should be a legit target in free agency. He'd be a great bench piece for the Raps. 6'9", over 7' wingspan, high bbiq.

[OAKLEY_2]

Here's a little draft day action:
With Memphis having killed it this year, I dont see that they'll want to develop 3 picks (22,29, 47) going into next year, and maybe one can be pried loose?

Something like:

Tor in: #29, #47
Mem in: Flynn, #33

Gives Memphis some assurance with Tyus Jones being a FA. Flynn shows up well when called on, but doesn't see much opportunity, and is expendable by way of not being ideal for "Vision 6'9" ". The cap flexibility with a 2nd vs a 1st might interest them as well if they dont see much difference in a few picks.
Raptors get an extra dip in the bargain bin to see what they can dig up.

So Flynn was a first rounder and plays a position we are weak at and we flip non guaranteed 33 for guaranteed 29 all for adding the 47? Nope. Stay at 33 and keep Flynn. In fact let's say we pick identical twin Julian Champagnie and kept Flynn how would 29 and 47 be better for cracking Nurse's 8 man rotations? At least Flynn has a shot...

[OAKLEY_2]

We still have a chance at developing SVI, David Johnson and maybe Jalen Harris so more picks this year seems unlikely. Would think our priorities are to retain Boucher snd Thad.

[tecumseh18]

We'll see what happens in the upcoming playoff series against Memphis, but all the evidence is that the T-Wolves are sick of KAT, given his immaturity and unwillingness to do anything except score. So he's not really a Raptors player as is, but is he mould-able after seven seasons? How much more than OG and picks would it take? Gary would make it easy to match salaries.

But ... I like our guys. This series against the Sixers will show what we really need.

[Psubs]

We still have a chance at developing SVI, David Johnson and maybe Jalen Harris so more picks this year seems unlikely. Would think our priorities are to retain Boucher snd Thad.

Svi has been let go by the Lakers, OKC and Detroit. He's a career 35% from 3. Doesn't do much else. I'd have him as trade filler if he accepts his player option.

David Johnson needs another year with the 905 until he can raise his play to the level that Banton and Champagnie have this year.

Give Justin Champagnie minutes as he can rebound and has really developed his 3pt shooting. Also give Jalen Harris a 2nd chance as he's shown the ability to be a combo guard and might beat out Armani.

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[Psubs]

Draft Julian Champagnie.

PG FVV - Banton/Flynn - Harris
SG Trent - Justin - Banton
SF OG - Barnes - Julian
PF Barnes - Siakam - Yuta
C Siakam - Precious - Birch

[LoveMyRaps]

I don't know when it'll happen. But I know one day, Herb Jones will be a Raptor.

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[C-R-E-A-M-]

I wonder if OKC might be willing to part with Lu Dort? Might be a chance for them to clear the decks for some of their other prospects, including whomever they draft this year. They could also avoid having to pay him in free agency.

He'd fit in seamlessly into our system and roster behind GTJ. Do you think they'd go for Khem, Flynn and a 2023 or 2024 first?

I'd prefer 2024, cause next year's draft is loaded.

Lu Dort is a good target. He's only 22 so he fits the young core. OKC is a cheap team and Lu is a UFA looking to get paid. SGA max contract starts next season. They will have to pay Giddey and there top 5 picks for the next coming years. I can see them trading him.

FVV/Banton
GTJ/Dort
OG/Thad
Barnes/Boucher
Siakam/Precious

[Rodrickle]

Draft Julian Champagnie.

PG FVV - Banton/Flynn - Harris
SG Trent - Justin - Banton
SF OG - Barnes - Julian
PF Barnes - Siakam - Yuta
C Siakam - Precious - Birch

Doubt we will bring back Yuta. Pretty confident we will bring back Thad and Boucher too. Will probably sign someone too, maybe Bruce Brown or Kyle Anderson to MLE?

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[Rodrickle]

I don't know when it'll happen. But I know one day, Herb Jones will be a Raptor.

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He's also pretty good offensively too. His handle is underated as well. I like that the Willie Green is giving young players lots of playing time with NO. (Jones, Trey Murphy, Alvaraz) and not playing overated vets like Temple like a lot of coaches would imo. NO actually has a pretty good team with lots of long players similar to us. Its too bad about the Zion situation.

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[Madhouse]

I don't know when it'll happen. But I know one day, Herb Jones will be a Raptor.

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If we knew how good he would be no doubt we would have traded up to the top of the 2nd round.

[DangerZone13]

Here's a little draft day action:
With Memphis having killed it this year, I dont see that they'll want to develop 3 picks (22,29, 47) going into next year, and maybe one can be pried loose?

Something like:

Tor in: #29, #47
Mem in: Flynn, #33

Gives Memphis some assurance with Tyus Jones being a FA. Flynn shows up well when called on, but doesn't see much opportunity, and is expendable by way of not being ideal for "Vision 6'9" ". The cap flexibility with a 2nd vs a 1st might interest them as well if they dont see much difference in a few picks.
Raptors get an extra dip in the bargain bin to see what they can dig up.

So Flynn was a first rounder and plays a position we are weak at and we flip non guaranteed 33 for guaranteed 29 all for adding the 47? Nope. Stay at 33 and keep Flynn. In fact let's say we pick identical twin Julian Champagnie and kept Flynn how would 29 and 47 be better for cracking Nurse's 8 man rotations? At least Flynn has a shot...

In my view, Banton is a better homegrown prospect to build into that role as his shooting improves, and Brooks was better than Flynn, and there's the option to bring him back. Give Brooks a Raptors training camp, and I think he's well ahead of Flynn.

This deal essentially refreshes that Flynn pick to take another dip in this murky draft. With how FVV has adopted Malachi, and Fred's relationship with Nurse, I don't see Flynn being moved before his contract is up.
This is more a proposal if there's a player the brass sees that they want to jump on. Maybe there's something to be done to get their 22 instead of 29?
I think the goal of the off season is to secure a bench mob, and if they see a guy who could be a Desmond Bane or something that wont get past picks 31/32, as well as having a later pick to take a flier.

[grant101]

I like the idea of taking a big(ish) swing (see my Lu Dort idea) or of wiping the slate clean a bit and replenishing the bench mob. I expect Thad and Boucher to stick around next year, and Justin and Dalano to be given opportunities to crack the rotation. Beyond that, there are simply no minutes in the rotation. Players like Yuta, Svi, Bonga and Flynn are simply wasted on this roster. I'm also iffy on Khem (though he's obviously part of the rotation) and Johnson (who I just don't see the upside with).

The time is ripe to bring in some high-upside developmental pieces that fit the vision and run them through the development program. I'd love to see us pry an additional draft pick in the late first/ early second from one of the many teams with multiple draft picks and limited roster spots (e.g. Memphis, Orlando, OKC) and use our picks to bring on a couple young prospects that could fit into our system after some seasoning (e.g. Leonard Miller, Ousmane Dieng, Blake Wesley, Nzosa). With some exceptions, I just don't see the point in bringing in lower ceiling upper classmen that simply won't have the opportunity to play with the big club.