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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#621 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:57 pm

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I hate Turner but love him at the same time.

I think the best possible roster construction is the 6'9" thing outside of one 3-point shooting center and a shot creating guard who is like 6'4 or 6'5. So Adding Turner would be one step in the right direction.

Wonder if we could do a GTJ for Turner type deal, and then move FVV for some guard depth?


Why would the pacers do that. They have buddy heild in the SG role, shooting 42% from 3, better GTJ.

Whose to say Buddy is a Pacer the entire year? Easily could be a trade candidate.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#622 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Jan 17, 2023 7:59 pm

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Thaddy wrote:As a fan base we really give Gary the short end of the stick.

We criticized him for being a bad finisher at the rim last season now look at this.

0-3ft FG%
2022: 57.9%
2023: 70.5%

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2022: 41.5%
2023: 54.7%

Do we really want to do a straight swap for Poeltl? I guess it could be considered an economical move that keeps us under the tax.


Personally I don't wanna trade for Poeltl at all.

I see NO REASON at all why wouldn't just wait until the off-season to sign him out right. It's not like he doesn't already know through all the rumours that we want him & like Pascal couldn't push his best damn friend to come back at whatever similar contract he's being offered. Bringing him here only hurts our draft (period).

Not to mention he's not even a SOLUTION at C, people confuse an upgrade with a solution. He'd be a minimal upgrade over Precious (in fact quite redundant with bit more size) but he's STILL not big enough to really handle Giannis or Embiid and most importantly HE CAN'T SHOOT. The LAST thing this team needs is to bring in more players that further shrink the floor. Not to mention can't remain on the court in crunch time because they're not a reliable FT shooter ie/ Yak can barely hit anything aside from a layup.

Again I think the off-season is the time to go after him or preferably Myles. At least Turner SOLVES the problem at C because he IS big enough to handle the giants of the EC, DOES space the floor and CAN remain on the court in crunch time. So if we're forced to pick, I'd pray it's at least for a player that actually solves the problem, not just slightly mitigates it. Ayton to me is more a wild card if the Raps just think they can get way more out of him offensively than PHX did (which I believe is entirely possible) but is it worth the cost if you don't?!

Bruh if you want a center IDK how you possibly say Poeltl, one of the better defensive centers, is not a solution. No one is big enough to handle Giannis or Embiid that is why they are MVP candidates.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#623 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:00 pm

Swag wrote:Why the Fck are we trying to upgrade this weak core!!!

We should be building for the future - not trading for Miles Turner or Poeltl

How old do you think Turner and Poeltl are? 26-27 year olds who will be in their prime for another 4ish years are players yuou wat
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#624 » by Los_29 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:04 pm

Ayton is someone I'd be interested in getting. Only 24 years old I believe.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#625 » by KL78192020 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:08 pm

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YogurtProducer wrote:I hate Turner but love him at the same time.

I think the best possible roster construction is the 6'9" thing outside of one 3-point shooting center and a shot creating guard who is like 6'4 or 6'5. So Adding Turner would be one step in the right direction.

Wonder if we could do a GTJ for Turner type deal, and then move FVV for some guard depth?


Why would the pacers do that. They have buddy heild in the SG role, shooting 42% from 3, better GTJ.

Whose to say Buddy is a Pacer the entire year? Easily could be a trade candidate.


What benefit do the Pacers get? Buddy is cost controlled and the team was playing well until Hali went down. Buddy is also cost controlled through next year.

Who would they play at C if they're trading Turner for GTJ, that trade you suggested makes no sense for them. Indy isn't tanking.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#626 » by WetLikeWater » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:11 pm

seems like the raps are willing to trade OG for multiple unprotected 1st round picks :'(
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#627 » by ItsDanger » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:14 pm

Swag wrote:Why the Fck are we trying to upgrade this weak core!!!

We should be building for the future - not trading for Miles Turner or Poeltl

C'mon we won last night.

Its all in for the play in now.

Looks we got a few weeks of BC smokescreens with a side order of bait and switches.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#628 » by CoinTossRoss31 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:18 pm

WetLikeWater wrote:seems like the raps are willing to trade OG for multiple unprotected 1st round picks :'(


Everyone has a price.. HAHAHA
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#629 » by Raptors Realtor » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:19 pm

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I'm not the biggest Gary fan. But if he wants to stay, I say keep him for pure asset management.

But there are two parties at play here. If Trent doesn't want to resign but Poeltl wants to resign.. then?


I'm not sure that Poeltl is the best fit here. I feel like we need a centre in the mold of Turner who can stretch the floor while also being a strong rim protector. If we do get a traditional big I think we really need to focus on acquiring a lot of shooting to surround him because that's currently one of our roster's most glaring needs.


hes done nothing but improve and blossom right before our eyes.

he's the player im most excited about on this team. high iq, team player, can score from a multitude of ways. defends well. carries himself like a pro.

our fans suck and dont deserve nice things lol



What are you talking about... cause I have a difference of opinion?
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#630 » by ciueli » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:23 pm

We should have no interest in Ayton, he doesn't space the floor at all, isn't great at any one particular thing, and gets paid like a star without actually being a star. We already have trouble hitting 3s, adding a non-3 point shooting C to our starting lineup just makes it and even worse problem.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#631 » by YogurtProducer » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:25 pm

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Why would the pacers do that. They have buddy heild in the SG role, shooting 42% from 3, better GTJ.

Whose to say Buddy is a Pacer the entire year? Easily could be a trade candidate.


What benefit do the Pacers get? Buddy is cost controlled and the team was playing well until Hali went down. Buddy is also cost controlled through next year.

Who would they play at C if they're trading Turner for GTJ, that trade you suggested makes no sense for them. Indy isn't tanking.

Buddy is 30, Trent is 24. Buddy is a UFA after next year in his age 31 season. It is not unconceivable they would move on and get some assets for Hield from a playoff team and put GTJ next to Haliburton.

Turner is also a UFA this year, and the Pacers have nice prospects in Isaiah Jackson and Jalen Smith who both can play the 5, as well as Goga who has been glued to the bench this year.

Turner has been in trade rumors for years, so I do not think the team is really that attached to him.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#632 » by agkagk » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:25 pm

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I'm not sure that Poeltl is the best fit here. I feel like we need a centre in the mold of Turner who can stretch the floor while also being a strong rim protector. If we do get a traditional big I think we really need to focus on acquiring a lot of shooting to surround him because that's currently one of our roster's most glaring needs.


hes done nothing but improve and blossom right before our eyes.

he's the player im most excited about on this team. high iq, team player, can score from a multitude of ways. defends well. carries himself like a pro.

our fans suck and dont deserve nice things lol



What are you talking about... cause I have a difference of opinion?


we have a reputation across the league for toxic fandom.

The players are aware of it.

Heres a tangible example:

just look at the negative attention being showered by raptor "fans" on fred across social.

How do you think other players view us and how do you think they view fred.

Spoiler warning: the screaming fan boys on social and the rest of the league have very differing opinions on fred's character and his positive impact on the raptors.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#633 » by Raptors Realtor » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:26 pm

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hes done nothing but improve and blossom right before our eyes.

he's the player im most excited about on this team. high iq, team player, can score from a multitude of ways. defends well. carries himself like a pro.

our fans suck and dont deserve nice things lol



What are you talking about... cause I have a difference of opinion?


we have a reputation across the league for toxic fandom.

The players are aware of it.


What relevance does that have with my post?
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#634 » by ash_k » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:27 pm

WetLikeWater wrote:seems like the raps are willing to trade OG for multiple unprotected 1st round picks :'(

Source? ........Jake?
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#635 » by lolwut » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:28 pm

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Tor_Raps wrote:Fred and Boucher for Ayton is a deal I can see happening. Then the Suns trade CP elsewhere for whatever they can get.


I wonder if the Suns would ever trade Booker and build around Ayton. Fred, OG, multiple picks and swaps?

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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#636 » by agkagk » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:29 pm

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agkagk wrote:
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What are you talking about... cause I have a difference of opinion?


we have a reputation across the league for toxic fandom.

The players are aware of it.


What relevance does that have with my post?


you responded too quickly. i was editing my post while you replied lol

also, i was replying to the post you were replying to regarding gary, i might have hit the wrong post to reply to.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#637 » by WetLikeWater » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:30 pm

ash_k wrote:
WetLikeWater wrote:seems like the raps are willing to trade OG for multiple unprotected 1st round picks :'(

Source? ........Jake?

I'm not sure man I'm waiting for someone to confirm if its true or not
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#638 » by PhilBlackson » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:34 pm

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Thaddy wrote:As a fan base we really give Gary the short end of the stick.

We criticized him for being a bad finisher at the rim last season now look at this.

0-3ft FG%
2022: 57.9%
2023: 70.5%

3-10ft
2022: 41.5%
2023: 54.7%

Do we really want to do a straight swap for Poeltl? I guess it could be considered an economical move that keeps us under the tax.


Personally I don't wanna trade for Poeltl at all.

I see NO REASON at all why wouldn't just wait until the off-season to sign him out right. It's not like he doesn't already know through all the rumours that we want him & like Pascal couldn't push his best damn friend to come back at whatever similar contract he's being offered. Bringing him here only hurts our draft (period).

Not to mention he's not even a SOLUTION at C, people confuse an upgrade with a solution. He'd be a minimal upgrade over Precious (in fact quite redundant with bit more size) but he's STILL not big enough to really handle Giannis or Embiid and most importantly HE CAN'T SHOOT. The LAST thing this team needs is to bring in more players that further shrink the floor. Not to mention can't remain on the court in crunch time because they're not a reliable FT shooter ie/ Yak can barely hit anything aside from a layup.

Again I think the off-season is the time to go after him or preferably Myles. At least Turner SOLVES the problem at C because he IS big enough to handle the giants of the EC, DOES space the floor and CAN remain on the court in crunch time. So if we're forced to pick, I'd pray it's at least for a player that actually solves the problem, not just slightly mitigates it. Ayton to me is more a wild card if the Raps just think they can get way more out of him offensively than PHX did (which I believe is entirely possible) but is it worth the cost if you don't?!

Bruh if you want a center IDK how you possibly say Poeltl, one of the better defensive centers, is not a solution. No one is big enough to handle Giannis or Embiid that is why they are MVP candidates.


Because TURNER actually is big enough to do so plus he CAN SHOOT & he doesn't further congest the court for our already painful halfcourt offence as Yak does/would, idk why posters who want Poeltl love to just sweep that part under the rug. That in particular is why he's simply not a good fit.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#639 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:35 pm

WetLikeWater wrote:seems like the raps are willing to trade OG for multiple unprotected 1st round picks :'(


he's probably the most valuable trade target for every contender and pretender - he's plug and play doesn't demand too much of the ball and always guards the opposing team's best player with great results. most teams don't have anything we want that have equal value and are too precious to give back to the Raptors because of a playoff run - so unprotected picks would be the next best thing.
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Re: Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread 

Post#640 » by Oakvillehoops » Tue Jan 17, 2023 8:38 pm

InfraRedshaw wrote:We don't have to lose GTJ for nothing if we don't move him at the dead line, we could sign and trade, sign and eventually trade, sign and keep

taking pennies on the dollar because "we can't lose him for nothing" is still not good asset management

signing yourself up for 2nd worst case scenario to avoid the worst case scenario is not good planning


100%, you have to keep him and deal with it later. There is always a trade partner for a player who can average 20, even with a slightly unfavourable contract

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