The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3

[ForeverTFC]

It might be because it's been like a decade since we've had anyone resembling an elite shooter on the roster, but I am also very happy to have him. After having to watch a ton of overlapping skills, it's refreshing to have a guy that does everything the rest of the roster doesn't do and complements them so well. Hopefully Dick pops this year.

One of the biggest reasons I want him in the SL, is cause I think him and Scottie could foster a deadly combo at some point. I wanna see them get more reps together. Out of 1267 total minutes played, he only spend 339 with Scottie on the court. He also showed a decent report with IQ, so seeing all 3 together would be nice. Gradey I think is much more in the teams future plans than RJ.

IQ
GD
RJ
Barnes

Can all play together. I don't think RJ is some poor defender that he's being made out to be. He's definitely not OG, but I don't think he's Demar level of defense either.

He puts in way more effort than Demar. Not even comparable. He just has size/quickness deficiencies that get amplified when you put him beside IQ.

[Scase]

It might be because it's been like a decade since we've had anyone resembling an elite shooter on the roster, but I am also very happy to have him. After having to watch a ton of overlapping skills, it's refreshing to have a guy that does everything the rest of the roster doesn't do and complements them so well. Hopefully Dick pops this year.

One of the biggest reasons I want him in the SL, is cause I think him and Scottie could foster a deadly combo at some point. I wanna see them get more reps together. Out of 1267 total minutes played, he only spend 339 with Scottie on the court. He also showed a decent report with IQ, so seeing all 3 together would be nice. Gradey I think is much more in the teams future plans than RJ.

IQ
GD
RJ
Barnes

Can all play together. I don't think RJ is some poor defender that he's being made out to be. He's definitely not OG, but I don't think he's Demar level of defense either.

The problem is that Gradey is not a good defender, so having multiple meh defenders makes it difficult. I also think RJ would have a bigger impact by going up against 2nd units primarily. Lastly, just cause you don't start a game, doesn't mean you aren't still gonna play major minutes. He could still easily manage 30mpg and close out games. I just think the SL needs more shooting and we probably cant run both of them.

In general that is, as of now, I think we just run them both as starters and say who cares to what happens. We're not aiming to compete right now.

[Badonkadonk]

It might be because it's been like a decade since we've had anyone resembling an elite shooter on the roster, but I am also very happy to have him. After having to watch a ton of overlapping skills, it's refreshing to have a guy that does everything the rest of the roster doesn't do and complements them so well. Hopefully Dick pops this year.

One of the biggest reasons I want him in the SL, is cause I think him and Scottie could foster a deadly combo at some point. I wanna see them get more reps together. Out of 1267 total minutes played, he only spend 339 with Scottie on the court. He also showed a decent report with IQ, so seeing all 3 together would be nice. Gradey I think is much more in the teams future plans than RJ.

IQ
GD
RJ
Barnes

Can all play together. I don't think RJ is some poor defender that he's being made out to be. He's definitely not OG, but I don't think he's Demar level of defense either.

Been saying that the Team Canada version of RJ actually plays solid D. I like watching international hoops, it's physical, they call travels, you really need to know the game. His role on offense in those games had been VERY different than what he did on the Knicks, and I think there's a similar dynamic defensively. He definitely has the physical tools, we'll see if he can apply them, but between the change in coaching/systems, his age and having watched Team Canada, I'm optimistic he can hit another level in the league than what he's shown.

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One of the biggest reasons I want him in the SL, is cause I think him and Scottie could foster a deadly combo at some point. I wanna see them get more reps together. Out of 1267 total minutes played, he only spend 339 with Scottie on the court. He also showed a decent report with IQ, so seeing all 3 together would be nice. Gradey I think is much more in the teams future plans than RJ.

IQ
GD
RJ
Barnes

Can all play together. I don't think RJ is some poor defender that he's being made out to be. He's definitely not OG, but I don't think he's Demar level of defense either.

Been saying that the Team Canada version of RJ actually plays solid D. I like watching international hoops, it's physical, they call travels, you really need to know the game. His role on offense in those games had been VERY different than what he did on the Knicks, and I think there's a similar dynamic defensively. He definitely has the physical tools, we'll see if he can apply them, but between the change in coaching/systems, his age and having watched Team Canada, I'm optimistic he can hit another level in the league than what he's shown.

Maybe he's better suited for international play, but sadly that doesn't help us much. He's also kinda limited physically, his ceiling is probably a net neutral defender.

[PoundTown]

One of the biggest reasons I want him in the SL, is cause I think him and Scottie could foster a deadly combo at some point. I wanna see them get more reps together. Out of 1267 total minutes played, he only spend 339 with Scottie on the court. He also showed a decent report with IQ, so seeing all 3 together would be nice. Gradey I think is much more in the teams future plans than RJ.

IQ
GD
RJ
Barnes

Can all play together. I don't think RJ is some poor defender that he's being made out to be. He's definitely not OG, but I don't think he's Demar level of defense either.

Been saying that the Team Canada version of RJ actually plays solid D. I like watching international hoops, it's physical, they call travels, you really need to know the game. His role on offense in those games had been VERY different than what he did on the Knicks, and I think there's a similar dynamic defensively. He definitely has the physical tools, we'll see if he can apply them, but between the change in coaching/systems, his age and having watched Team Canada, I'm optimistic he can hit another level in the league than what he's shown.

He's probably in the average range defensively and he does put in effort there. His hips are a bit stiff, and have gotten a bit stiffer since putting on some extra bulk, but that bulk has also helped significantly attacking the basket and finishing through contact. He just shouldn't be in a position where he is expected to be the lockdown defender. I also think he becomes a near all-star level player. I mean, would 24, 6, 5 on efficiency with average D be a near all star? That's probably a similar impact to a Jaylen Brown, with Brown being the better shooter and defender and RJ being the better slasher, possibly better passer as well.

[youngRAPZ]

IQ
GD
RJ
Barnes

Can all play together. I don't think RJ is some poor defender that he's being made out to be. He's definitely not OG, but I don't think he's Demar level of defense either.

Been saying that the Team Canada version of RJ actually plays solid D. I like watching international hoops, it's physical, they call travels, you really need to know the game. His role on offense in those games had been VERY different than what he did on the Knicks, and I think there's a similar dynamic defensively. He definitely has the physical tools, we'll see if he can apply them, but between the change in coaching/systems, his age and having watched Team Canada, I'm optimistic he can hit another level in the league than what he's shown.

Maybe he's better suited for international play, but sadly that doesn't help us much. He's also kinda limited physically, his ceiling is probably a net neutral defender.

This guy turns every thread into an RJ should be on the bench discussion lol did he bully you in highschool or something. Give it a rest bud.

[NinjaBro]

Has Dick grown a few inches this past summer?

"We need to trade Siakam for AJ Griffin before it's too late!" - PhilBlackson

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Been saying that the Team Canada version of RJ actually plays solid D. I like watching international hoops, it's physical, they call travels, you really need to know the game. His role on offense in those games had been VERY different than what he did on the Knicks, and I think there's a similar dynamic defensively. He definitely has the physical tools, we'll see if he can apply them, but between the change in coaching/systems, his age and having watched Team Canada, I'm optimistic he can hit another level in the league than what he's shown.

Maybe he's better suited for international play, but sadly that doesn't help us much. He's also kinda limited physically, his ceiling is probably a net neutral defender.

This guy turns every thread into an RJ should be on the bench discussion lol did he bully you in highschool or something. Give it a rest bud.

Yeah man, why would I discuss the raptors roster and how players would fit in and out of the starting lineup, on a raptors forum, in a thread about a player, in a conversation about starting lineup players.

Go take a nap or something, you're getting uppity.

[ForeverTFC]

Has Dick grown a few inches this past summer?

"We need to trade Siakam for AJ Griffin before it's too late!" - PhilBlackson

Depends on his environment.

[ArthurVandelay]

Has Dick grown a few inches this past summer?

"We need to trade Siakam for AJ Griffin before it's too late!" - PhilBlackson

Depends on his environment.

What about a stimulating environment? I think that would be guaranteed to result in a few inches of growth for Dick.

[MEDIC]

I like watching international hoops, it's physical, they call travels, you really need to know the game..

Yeah, I like international ball better. I find it more competitive & interesting to watch than the NBA. I am looking forward to the olympics more than next years NBA season.

It's real basketball rather than the WWE version that the NBA sells to people.

[MEDIC]

Been saying that the Team Canada version of RJ actually plays solid D. His role on offense in those games had been VERY different than what he did on the Knicks, and I think there's a similar dynamic defensively. He definitely has the physical tools, we'll see if he can apply them, but between the change in coaching/systems, his age and having watched Team Canada, I'm optimistic he can hit another level in the league than what he's shown.

Totally agree. I think he is going to be a really solid player in his prime & will probably make an allstar game or 2.

[OakleyDokely]

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[tecumseh18]

Has Dick grown a few inches this past summer?

"We need to trade Siakam for AJ Griffin before it's too late!" - PhilBlackson

Depends on his environment.

What about a stimulating environment? I think that would be guaranteed to result in a few inches of growth for Dick.

It's telling that you guys are focused on length, when what really matters is girth.

At least in the NBA. I will be interested to see if Dick is much thicker in Las Vegas.

[PD28]

I bet the strength and conditioning program he is on will work on strengthening his base. He gets moved around quite a bit, and needs to be able to hold his position defensively. When he meets contact on drives, he tips right over and is forced to make a creative layup.

What's everyone's prediction for his stats this coming season?

His final 40 games he averaged:

11.1 PTS - 2.7 REB - 1.3 AST on 45.2/39.5/80.6 shooting splits.

I'd be happy if he could get close to:

14.0 PTS - 3.5 REB - 2.5 AST on 48/42/84 shooting splits.

[SHFT]

I bet the strength and conditioning program he is on will work on strengthening his base. He gets moved around quite a bit, and needs to be able to hold his position defensively. When he meets contact on drives, he tips right over and is forced to make a creative layup.

What's everyone's prediction for his stats this coming season?

His final 40 games he averaged:

11.1 PTS - 2.7 REB - 1.3 AST on 45.2/39.5/80.6 shooting splits.

I'd be happy if he could get close to:

14.0 PTS - 3.5 REB - 2.5 AST on 48/42/84 shooting splits.

Those numbers probably mean he is in the conversation for the best shooter in the league and possibly 6moty

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[nikster]

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Im most surprised by the volume. He's actually ul there with most of them in volume despite not playing quite a bit of the season

[Grew]

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Stand out for me is everyone on that list but Gradey play with dudes that create major gravity.

Gradey is the best pure shooter on that list.

[douggood]

I bet the strength and conditioning program he is on will work on strengthening his base. He gets moved around quite a bit, and needs to be able to hold his position defensively. When he meets contact on drives, he tips right over and is forced to make a creative layup.

What's everyone's prediction for his stats this coming season?

His final 40 games he averaged:

11.1 PTS - 2.7 REB - 1.3 AST on 45.2/39.5/80.6 shooting splits.

I'd be happy if he could get close to:

14.0 PTS - 3.5 REB - 2.5 AST on 48/42/84 shooting splits.

give me the same shooting from his final 40 games on higher volume and i am happy.

[JB7]

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Stand out for me is everyone on that list but Gradey play with dudes that create major gravity.

Gradey is the best pure shooter on that list.

Yes, he'll be the one creating the gravity on the Raps.

What is also impressive is I assume those numbers are for the full year, which factor in his very slow start. How would the percentages look for the last 40 games, when he settled in?