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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#621 » by Zeno » Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:49 pm

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What kind of degenerate do you hav to be to vote on Terry Rozier’s next team?!?! :lol:

Perhaps an associate of Terry Rozier.
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#622 » by ArthurVandelay » Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:51 pm

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https://clutchpoints.com/nba/toronto-raptors/raptors-sources-trade-interest-kings-malik-monk

I really hate unclear nonsense writing like this.

If a trade with the Phoenix Suns for Kevin Durant doesn't end up happening, league sources tell ClutchPoints they have other targets in mind. The Raptors have demonstrated interest in acquiring Kings guard Malik Monk in a potential trade, with that interest dating back at least to February's trade deadline.

The Kings weren't actively shopping their marquee players then. But the team is now under new management. The extent to which GM Scott Perry is actually willing to deal any of Sacramento's marquee players is unknown.

League sources say the Kings have been listening to trade offers from other teams. But that could be Perry simply gathering intelligence on his new roster. The Durant trade saga playing out will allow other pieces of the NBA offseason to fall into place. If Sacramento decides that trading Monk could potentially serve them best long term, they'll have at least one suitor for him in Toronto.

Perry, because of his time with the New York Knicks, has preexisting relationships with at least two Raptors. Barrett and Quickley could be worth monitoring as part of any potential return in a deal for Monk. One question remains paramount in any hypothetical, though. Do the Raptors think that Monk is the ‘significant roster upgrade' they'd trade one of the two former Knicks for?



RJ for Monk isn't even a near salary match either, so it doesn't make much sense unless the Kings are including JV or Ellis/Carter


Perry wants IQ. He wants a PG and had him in NY


Monk and Murray? Keegan shot 41% as a rookie but just 35% the last 2 seasons. He’s going to be looking for an extension and they have a lot of salary. Maybe Raptors try to buy really low?
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#623 » by OakleyDokely » Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:54 pm

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What kind of degenerate do you hav to be to vote on Terry Rozier’s next team?!?! :lol:


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Post#624 » by WWSRD » Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:54 pm

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Suns should take that and run
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Post#625 » by RaptorPride » Tue Jun 17, 2025 10:56 pm

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That's a lot and will for sure get the deal done. Me personally I'm not a fan of going for old superstars. I just don't think you can win a ring with them. Hopefully we don't give up the pick if we have to include all of them. Rather give like next year top 3 protected.
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Post#626 » by ForeverTFC » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:00 pm

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Is Booker also coming back? Or did the Suns find some cap money to take back $78m?

If a guy on the radio actually said this, he needs to show himself out the door. More likely he got mis-quoted.
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#627 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:02 pm

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Suns should take that and run

Ya this aint it

Doesnt even work cap wise and they cant add anyone to it cuz 2nd apron

Gambo is PHX mouthpiece cuz they want Hou and SAS to improve their offers cuz Phx wants to send him there and not minnesota

Phx is already happy with minnesota’s deal of gobert dillingham divo and 17
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#628 » by RaptorPride » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:02 pm

If KD goes to the Rockets and Suns don't want Jalen Green. Would you guys do RJ + some extra for Green? RJ to Suns and Green to Raps. Since no one really wants RJ here.
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Post#629 » by Godaddycurse » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:04 pm

RaptorPride wrote:If KD goes to the Rockets and Suns don't want Jalen Green. Would you guys do RJ + some extra for Green? RJ to Suns and Green to Raps. Since no one really wants RJ here.


Barrett > Green
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Post#630 » by Zeno » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:05 pm

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That's a lot and will for sure get the deal done. Me personally I'm not a fan of going for old superstars. I just don't think you can win a ring with them. Hopefully we don't give up the pick if we have to include all of them. Rather give like next year top 3 protected.

That is an impossible offer to the Suns directly. It would have to involve a third team because the Suns can’t take on more money than they send out. So likely we would be receiving more than Durant back in the trade too. For example if Yak and Demar went to the Suns, Durant, Monk and Val came to the Raps and I Q and RJ went to the Kings. I hated the idea of this Durant business but imagine a team receiving Demar, Yak and a 1st for their superstar again. Too entertaining not to do it
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Post#631 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:06 pm

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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#632 » by RaptorPride » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:08 pm

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That's a lot and will for sure get the deal done. Me personally I'm not a fan of going for old superstars. I just don't think you can win a ring with them. Hopefully we don't give up the pick if we have to include all of them. Rather give like next year top 3 protected.

That is an impossible offer to the Suns directly. It would have to involve a third team because the Suns can’t take on more money than they send out. So likely we would be receiving more than Durant back in the trade too. For example if Yak and Demar went to the Suns, Durant, Monk and Val came to the Raps and I Q and RJ went to the Kings. I hated the idea of this Durant business but imagine a team receiving Demar, Yak and a 1st for their superstar again. Too entertaining not to do it

That would be hilarious. But I honestly think nothing is happening here. If we do make a move probably someone random like the Bane deal.
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Post#633 » by ForeverTFC » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:09 pm

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RaptorPride wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
Read on Twitter
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That's a lot and will for sure get the deal done. Me personally I'm not a fan of going for old superstars. I just don't think you can win a ring with them. Hopefully we don't give up the pick if we have to include all of them. Rather give like next year top 3 protected.

That is an impossible offer to the Suns directly. It would have to involve a third team because the Suns can’t take on more money than they send out. So likely we would be receiving more than Durant back in the trade too. For example if Yak and Demar went to the Suns, Durant, Monk and Val came to the Raps and I Q and RJ went to the Kings. I hated the idea of this Durant business but imagine a team receiving Demar, Yak and a 1st for their superstar again. Too entertaining not to do it


Pretty hilarious. Now that's good use of the trade machine.
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Post#634 » by RaptorPride » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:10 pm

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RaptorPride wrote:If KD goes to the Rockets and Suns don't want Jalen Green. Would you guys do RJ + some extra for Green? RJ to Suns and Green to Raps. Since no one really wants RJ here.


Barrett > Green

I wanna see how low this board views RJ. He is honestly hard to value since some people would see him as a rising young player. Others see a bench player given to many shots because of his draft position.
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Post#635 » by GLF » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:13 pm

I think it’s pretty obvious that for the Raptors deal they meant IQ or RJ not both. That person must have mistyped. BUT to me if those offers are accurate and Suns haven’t taken either the Raptors or Wolves offer then they definitely want to trade Durant to one of the teams he wants to go to. They’re using Raptors and Wolves as a way to get Houston, Miami or Spurs to up their offer. Don’t think it will work though. So it’s either those offers by Wolves and Raptors are a lie or eventually Suns will give in and take one of those offers when Houston, Miami and Spurs don’t up their offer.
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Post#636 » by MEDIC » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:17 pm

I don't know why, but I thought Monk was 36, not 26.......feels like he has been around for a long time.
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Post#637 » by Son Goku 25 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:20 pm

5 years ago or even 3 years ago id be excited to get KD but let's see what actually happens and who we get before going crazy.
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Post#638 » by earthtone » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:21 pm

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Tha Cynic wrote:People are taking what are clearly subsequent moves as the main moves. It’s clear there is a lot of broken telephone and frameworks that just don’t end up materializing.

What’s clear is that the Raptors are trying to build a solid roster and they understand they need a scorer and that RJ isn’t a long term option.

I still think RJ is in the [relatively] long term plans here, I think there's a reason he was included in the OG deal instead of picks. I'd be surprised if he was traded for anything less than an All-Star calibre player.

I think the "toxic asset" quote that got aggregated after the trade really shaped a lot of perception of him and doesn't match how he's played at all in Toronto. I don't see any reason he won't fit with this core, and I think he's primed to take another leap this season


I don’t think he’s a negative player anymore but he is due for a contract extension soon and we know who he is. The Raptors will need to fix their roster somehow and imo there are other players who fit better than RJ on the team, especially with the addition of Ingram who’s a better version of a scorer.

I personally don’t think they’ll end up getting a star for RJ other than due to the requirement of his contract to make salaries match. Now maybe, and hopefully, a young team appreciates him (like a Portland) and is willing to give up assets for him, like their first round pick in 2025, but you’re right that they wouldn’t just trade him if it doesn’t bring in a better fit around Barnes and Ingram.

Definitely fair, I’m just not sure we know who he fully is yet. Masai and Bobby have talked since acquiring RJ about changing his playstyle and shot-diet, and the early returns have been really promising.

Raptor RJ is a much better player than Knick RJ, and I think the addition of Ingram is only going to help. If RJ & BI are both putting up 20/5/5 and shooting ~37% from three, I think thats a great fit around Scottie and great foundational pieces to build with/upgrade later
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Post#639 » by Duffman100 » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:22 pm

Ugh I don't want this.
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Post#640 » by RaptorPride » Tue Jun 17, 2025 11:22 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:5 years ago or even 3 years ago id be excited to get KD but let's see what actually happens and who we get before going crazy.

Yea lol last time KD to Raptor rumors were KD for Barnes.
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