Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II

[DelAbbot]

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Shams knows Klutch Klients...so this sounds legit.

Previously Masai said they are not taking calls until this road trip is over. So does this news mean Masai has finally decided and is openly taking calls to trade our guys?

[Agimat]

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Shams knows Klutch Klients...so this sounds legit.

Previously Masai said they are not taking calls until this road trip is over. So does this news mean Masai has finally decided and is openly taking calls to trade our guys?

Its finally on

[Yeezus_]

Posted this in the other thread but posting here too. Some of you guys are underrating Cam Johnson and how his game will translate around Scottie Barnes. Cam is an elite shooter, way better than OG. Cam is shooting 44% from 3 and shot 42% last year, OG has never shot over 40% in his career and has shot 36% for the past two seasons. Yes, OG is an elite defender but Cam is solid on that end too.

+ those two first round picks will be way out which could end up being really good down the road.

[edgehead411]

We need to deal OG and route whatever we get in terms of draft capital to deal with Siakam for Bennedict Mathurin.

The Pacers have the best playmaking pointguard in the league and with Turner on an extension, we could promote the idea of competition with Siakam and build around a young, CANADIAN star. We need to finally commit to a Canadian prospect before they blow tf up and we never sniff a chance like with SGA.

[mtcan]

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Shams knows Klutch Klients...so this sounds legit.

Previously Masai said they are not taking calls until this road trip is over. So does this news mean Masai has finally decided and is openly taking calls to trade our guys?

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I don't think James Jones is just showing Masai his office renovation.

[mtcan]

Posted this in the other thread but posting here too. Some of you guys are underrating Cam Johnson and how his game will translate around Scottie Barnes. Cam is an elite shooter, way better than OG. Cam is shooting 44% from 3 and shot 42% last year, OG has never shot over 40% in his career and has shot 36% for the past two seasons. Yes, OG is an elite defender but Cam is solid on that end too.

+ those two first round picks will be way out which could end up being really good down the road.

Cam too old and is wanting an extension

[DelAbbot]

Shams knows Klutch Klients...so this sounds legit.

Previously Masai said they are not taking calls until this road trip is over. So does this news mean Masai has finally decided and is openly taking calls to trade our guys?

Its finally on

On like donkey kong!!

[Spida888]

The one concern with Cam Johnson is he's had 2 meniscus knee surgeries with his latest one being a snip. That likely means that it could become a bone on bone issue and arthritic in time.
Obviously there is risk there so if the raptors are willing to take him on as the main piece in a return for OG I hope it doesn't come back to bite them.

He's a dead eye shooter though and will be incredibly useful for opening things for Siakam and Scottie. He missed time last year with a soft tissue thing from a dirty hit from Julius Randle (those 2 have issues btw so there might be fireworks when you play the NYK) and he took time to heal.

He's gotten alot better on defense too. That was 1 of his weaknesses coming into the league but he's worked harder at it and is decent considering that wasn't his "thing" in college.

In vacuum, Cam Johnson is nice. But if we’re planning to do a rebuild, we prefer young assets/picks. Not a guy who’s older than the one we’re trading away

This is a good point. Ideally for a rebuild, we'd want younger prospects.

I think Cam + 2 UNP picks is a good starting point though. If the 2027 FRP was also thrown in, you'd have to consider it because at that point CP3 is gone and who knows how good the suns would be.

Pels are falling and if they offer up one of their young guys with upside (ex. Murphy, Daniels) and an unprotected pick, that would be more intriguing.

[Yeezus_]

Posted this in the other thread but posting here too. Some of you guys are underrating Cam Johnson and how his game will translate around Scottie Barnes. Cam is an elite shooter, way better than OG. Cam is shooting 44% from 3 and shot 42% last year, OG has never shot over 40% in his career and has shot 36% for the past two seasons. Yes, OG is an elite defender but Cam is solid on that end too.

+ those two first round picks will be way out which could end up being really good down the road.

Cam too old and is wanting an extension

How is a 26 year old too old when Barnes is entering year 3? He's looking to develop and take the next step into his career to lead the team into contention with pieces around him, not bottom out and play with scrubs.

[mtcan]

Posted this in the other thread but posting here too. Some of you guys are underrating Cam Johnson and how his game will translate around Scottie Barnes. Cam is an elite shooter, way better than OG. Cam is shooting 44% from 3 and shot 42% last year, OG has never shot over 40% in his career and has shot 36% for the past two seasons. Yes, OG is an elite defender but Cam is solid on that end too.

+ those two first round picks will be way out which could end up being really good down the road.

Cam too old and is wanting an extension

How is a 26 year old too old when Barnes is entering year 3? He's looking to develop and take the next step into his career to lead the team into contention with pieces around him, not bottom out and play with scrubs.

Prefer guys younger than 25 that you can build with around and on more team friendly contracts. Don't like that Cam turned down a 4 year 70 million extension.

[Yeezus_]

Cam too old and is wanting an extension

How is a 26 year old too old when Barnes is entering year 3? He's looking to develop and take the next step into his career to lead the team into contention with pieces around him, not bottom out and play with scrubs.

Prefer guys younger than 25 that you can build with around and on more team friendly contracts. Don't like that Cam turned down a 4 year 70 million extension.

Why would he accept a 4/$70M? He's closer to a 4 year $80/90M level player with his skillset. The cap is going up every year and the % of the cap that new contract will take up isn't anything crazy.

[ItsDanger]

I'd rank OG as the 4th key player I'd trade on this roster. Perhaps nobody wants Fred . . . ? Oh no.

[Yeezus_]

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Shams knows Klutch Klients...so this sounds legit.

Previously Masai said they are not taking calls until this road trip is over. So does this news mean Masai has finally decided and is openly taking calls to trade our guys?

I think it means these reporters dont always have the correct sccop.

[mtcan]

How is a 26 year old too old when Barnes is entering year 3? He's looking to develop and take the next step into his career to lead the team into contention with pieces around him, not bottom out and play with scrubs.

Prefer guys younger than 25 that you can build with around and on more team friendly contracts. Don't like that Cam turned down a 4 year 70 million extension.

Why would he accept a 4/$70M? He's closer to a 4 year $80/90M level player with his skillset. The cap is going up every year and the % of the cap that new contract will take up isn't anything crazy.

He is a 15 million/year player. He is a good shooter but he belongs on a contending team as a 5th or 6th option...not on a rebuilding roster.

[ItsDanger]

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Shams knows Klutch Klients...so this sounds legit.

Previously Masai said they are not taking calls until this road trip is over. So does this news mean Masai has finally decided and is openly taking calls to trade our guys?

Masai got his smokescreen tricks from the master Brian colenjello

[islandboy53]

Posted this in the other thread but posting here too. Some of you guys are underrating Cam Johnson and how his game will translate around Scottie Barnes. Cam is an elite shooter, way better than OG. Cam is shooting 44% from 3 and shot 42% last year, OG has never shot over 40% in his career and has shot 36% for the past two seasons. Yes, OG is an elite defender but Cam is solid on that end too.

+ those two first round picks will be way out which could end up being really good down the road.

Cam too old and is wanting an extension

Exactly this. Cam will probably be looking at a similar salary as OG next year, so that's not helping our tax issues. At all. Also, he may not stay, meaning we might sell OG for, in effect, two mid to late 1sts? Hard to make a case for that.

[Syd-TK3]

Trading just OG while both Fred and Gary are gonna be free agents makes 0 sense

[Yeezus_]

Posted this in the other thread but posting here too. Some of you guys are underrating Cam Johnson and how his game will translate around Scottie Barnes. Cam is an elite shooter, way better than OG. Cam is shooting 44% from 3 and shot 42% last year, OG has never shot over 40% in his career and has shot 36% for the past two seasons. Yes, OG is an elite defender but Cam is solid on that end too.

+ those two first round picks will be way out which could end up being really good down the road.

Cam too old and is wanting an extension

Exactly this. Cam will probably be looking at a similar salary as OG next year, so that's not helping our tax issues. At all. Also, he may not stay, meaning we might sell OG for, in effect, two mid to late 1sts? Hard to make a case for that.

Just because we trade for Cam, it doesn't mean we are done making trades lol

[Yeezus_]

Trading just OG while both Fred and Gary are gonna be free agents makes 0 sense

Why is this the correct assumption to make?

[God Squad]

I don't think FVV has any value right now. We probably value him more than other teams. OG as we assumed is garnering all the attention compared to FVV.

FVV has been an unequivocal let down.