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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#641 » by MiamiSPX » Mon Jul 3, 2023 10:21 pm

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Bosh to Miami circulated long before Lebron’s Decision.
Heat got a slap on the wrist for tampering with Lowry.
Excuse me if I am suspicious that Riley & Co. are in Dame’s ear.


There is nothing to suspect lol. Of course Riley is in his ear. This is the way he operates.


I was being sarcastic, I agree 100% and just illustrating that this is a pattern


Ahh, I re-read it now.

Yep, this is horrible. Ironically, if Riley was the one who had a star demanding a trade to a certain city, he has enough power and cachet in the league to tell said star FU and send him to Detroit.

I am not sure the solution but something has to be drawn up to prevent this.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#642 » by Raps Next GM » Mon Jul 3, 2023 10:25 pm

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There is nothing to suspect lol. Of course Riley is in his ear. This is the way he operates.


I was being sarcastic, I agree 100% and just illustrating that this is a pattern


Ahh, I re-read it now.

Yep, this is horrible. Ironically, if Riley was the one who had a star demanding a trade to a certain city, he has enough power and cachet in the league to tell said star FU and send him to Detroit.

I am not sure the solution but something has to be drawn up to prevent this.


Agree and without overwhelming evidence, the NBA is powerless to stop it. He’s a legend so it would be hard to nail him.
It’s BS and while I agree with others that Portland didn’t do right by Dame, he’s gone too far in his demands to Miami and only Miami
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#643 » by ArthurVandelay » Mon Jul 3, 2023 10:32 pm

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WuTang_OG wrote:Woj just now on ESPN

Dame's camp telling teams dont trade for me I wont be happy and I wont be the same professional as I was in Portland

Fk that I love Dame but send him somewhere else


Normally I’d side with team and contract

But in this case, I don’t think Cronin and Co were acting in good faith. They should have been upfront last year or definitely this year that they wanted to go young.

I think Dame got jerked around. That just my opinion.


He did. Cronin played it. But I dont like giving them 1 team and then saying you wont be professional anywhere else. That's not right in my eyes.


Yeah I’m in a bit of a moral dilemma on this one.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#644 » by MiamiSPX » Mon Jul 3, 2023 10:36 pm

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I was being sarcastic, I agree 100% and just illustrating that this is a pattern


Ahh, I re-read it now.

Yep, this is horrible. Ironically, if Riley was the one who had a star demanding a trade to a certain city, he has enough power and cachet in the league to tell said star FU and send him to Detroit.

I am not sure the solution but something has to be drawn up to prevent this.


Agree and without overwhelming evidence, the NBA is powerless to stop it. He’s a legend so it would be hard to nail him.
It’s BS and while I agree with others that Portland didn’t do right by Dame, he’s gone too far in his demands to Miami and only Miami


A lot of us knew the charade Portland was pulling from the start. They totally acted in bad faith, but I think a small part of them convinced themselves that Dame would come around after drafting Scoot. Oops, bad call. Had they been straight with him from the start, this could have played out better and in a less public way. And, they could have instructed Miami who to draft for them (I think the Heat technically could not trade that pick). They botched this all around.

Miami also knew that Portland was full of it and has been tampering with Dame for weeks. Portland may launch a complaint (after trading him there lol) and nothing will come of it. Maybe a lost draft pick or two, which Miami doesn't care about anyway. It's common knowledge down here, and even expected, that Dame is coming.

The teams that are not "destination cities" are already at a disadvantage, but then you're also going to let Miami repeatedly tamper? It's complete and utter BS.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#645 » by bboyskinnylegs » Mon Jul 3, 2023 10:41 pm

Portland should wait it out until he's willing to expand his list of acceptable teams based on available offers. Yeah, it could be another Ben Simmons situation, but it's better than accepting crap from Miami. Dame isn't getting any younger here, is he willing to waste a year of what's left of his prime just because he wants to play with Butler and Bam?
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#646 » by ImissJordan » Mon Jul 3, 2023 10:41 pm

This is disturbing.

Can’t wait for that entire generation of stars to just phase out of the league.

Go away.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#647 » by djsunyc » Mon Jul 3, 2023 10:41 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:Woj just now on ESPN

Dame's camp telling teams dont trade for me I wont be happy and I wont be the same professional as I was in Portland

Fk that I love Dame but send him somewhere else


Normally I’d side with team and contract

But in this case, I don’t think Cronin and Co were acting in good faith. They should have been upfront last year or definitely this year that they wanted to go young.

I think Dame got jerked around. That just my opinion.


they gave him a $100 mil 2 year extension 2 years from now when they had zero reason to. they did right by dame financially.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#648 » by KL78192020 » Mon Jul 3, 2023 10:42 pm

ImissJordan wrote:This is disturbing.

Can’t wait for that entire generation of stars to just phase out of the league.

Go away.


You don't think the new generation will demand trades?
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#649 » by ImissJordan » Mon Jul 3, 2023 10:46 pm

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ImissJordan wrote:This is disturbing.

Can’t wait for that entire generation of stars to just phase out of the league.

Go away.


You don't think the new generation will demand trades?


Well they’ve all seemed to follow the same lead since 2010 of dictating their own terms.

Has made for an embarrassing product.

Edited to add: I recognize in saying so, the Raptors did also benefit from the NBA game of musical chairs.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#650 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Jul 3, 2023 10:51 pm

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Normally I’d side with team and contract

But in this case, I don’t think Cronin and Co were acting in good faith. They should have been upfront last year or definitely this year that they wanted to go young.

I think Dame got jerked around. That just my opinion.


He did. Cronin played it. But I dont like giving them 1 team and then saying you wont be professional anywhere else. That's not right in my eyes.


Yeah I’m in a bit of a moral dilemma on this one.


You cant make those comments when you are about to get paid $60 million at the tail end of a deal. I like Dame but theres some better spots out there if he was open to them
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#651 » by mrdressup » Mon Jul 3, 2023 11:04 pm

Portland may be waiting for us to act by which time Lillard might be retired. Don't count on the Raptors to bid up anyone. We' re still out there looking for miracles to happen.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#652 » by 2019nbachamps » Tue Jul 4, 2023 12:35 am

What pisses me off about the Dame trade request is he signed a supermax amid their 27-55 season. He knew they were bad and going nowhere, yet he took the bag and now wants to appear like the good guy. If he wanted to compete he could’ve entered free agency. Instead he took the bag, and is now on a PR campaign making it seem like he tried to make it work. At some point the NBA needs to put its foot down on this. Guys are abusing the system by signing max deals and then using trade demands as free agency.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#653 » by Wise80 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 12:52 am

2019nbachamps wrote:What pisses me off about the Dame trade request is he signed a supermax amid their 27-55 season. He knew they were bad and going nowhere, yet he took the bag and now wants to appear like the good guy. If he wanted to compete he could’ve entered free agency. Instead he took the bag, and is now on a PR campaign making it seem like he tried to make it work. At some point the NBA needs to put its foot down on this. Guys are abusing the system by signing max deals and then using trade demands as free agency.


Maybe it was brought up during negotiations for the new cba. But I thought it made to much sense for the extra money from the super max to not count against the cap and if you were to get traded, you lose that extra money and go to the regular max.

Maybe the nbapa shut that down. I don't see any benefit for the players to accept that.

But something has to be done.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#654 » by Zeno » Tue Jul 4, 2023 12:57 am

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2019nbachamps wrote:What pisses me off about the Dame trade request is he signed a supermax amid their 27-55 season. He knew they were bad and going nowhere, yet he took the bag and now wants to appear like the good guy. If he wanted to compete he could’ve entered free agency. Instead he took the bag, and is now on a PR campaign making it seem like he tried to make it work. At some point the NBA needs to put its foot down on this. Guys are abusing the system by signing max deals and then using trade demands as free agency.


Maybe it was brought up during negotiations for the new cba. But I thought it made to much sense for the extra money from the super max to not count against the cap and if you were to get traded, you lose that extra money and go to the regular max.

Maybe the nbapa shut that down. I don't see any benefit for the players to accept that.

But something has to be done.

How you going to litigate who asked for a trade and who was traded by the club independent of a request? You can't have players that don't want to be traded, being traded and losing money. What if a player just gives the impression of not wanting to be there but says nothing directly. The whole thing would become a **** for sure.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#655 » by KL78192020 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 1:05 am

This mans actually crying over a player lol. No one should ever take ball this serious.

Read on Twitter
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#656 » by DemHeavyHands » Tue Jul 4, 2023 1:07 am

KL78192020 wrote:This mans actually crying over a player lol. No one should ever take ball this serious.

Read on Twitter

Golllllly :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#657 » by Zeno » Tue Jul 4, 2023 1:11 am

DemHeavyHands wrote:
KL78192020 wrote:This mans actually crying over a player lol. No one should ever take ball this serious.

Read on Twitter

Golllllly :lol: :lol: :lol:

Whether this person actually thinks this is about Dame, this is most definitely not really about Dame.
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#658 » by Wise80 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 1:13 am

Zeno wrote:
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2019nbachamps wrote:What pisses me off about the Dame trade request is he signed a supermax amid their 27-55 season. He knew they were bad and going nowhere, yet he took the bag and now wants to appear like the good guy. If he wanted to compete he could’ve entered free agency. Instead he took the bag, and is now on a PR campaign making it seem like he tried to make it work. At some point the NBA needs to put its foot down on this. Guys are abusing the system by signing max deals and then using trade demands as free agency.


Maybe it was brought up during negotiations for the new cba. But I thought it made to much sense for the extra money from the super max to not count against the cap and if you were to get traded, you lose that extra money and go to the regular max.

Maybe the nbapa shut that down. I don't see any benefit for the players to accept that.

But something has to be done.

How you going to litigate who asked for a trade and who was traded by the club independent of a request? You can't have players that don't want to be traded, being traded and losing money. What if a player just gives the impression of not wanting to be there but says nothing directly. The whole thing would become a **** for sure.


I think it should only be if you're on the original team. Doesn't matter if you asked for a trade or not.

It's crazy to me how these ultra rich people would care about that extra money. But that's for another discussion.

We could potentially be witnessing this Dame scenario being played out right now with Pascal. If Pascal was the one who leaked that he wouldn't sign if he was traded and that he was happy in Toronto. Something tells me he would be ok with leaving once he gets the super max.
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#659 » by Asif16 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 1:16 am

I still have this underlying feeling that we somehow steal dame.

Jake Fischer's article 10 min ago pretty much states that Tyler Herro makes no sense as the main piece coming back since they already have Scoot/Simons/Sharpe. Portland wants a more defensive-minded young player to fit their young group

OG Anunoby actually makes so much sense for them and a far better fit with their young core. This sounds like Kawhi all over again
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Re: Haynes: Damian Lillard Requests Trade 

Post#660 » by Wise80 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 1:18 am

Asif16 wrote:I still have this underlying feeling that we somehow steal dame.

Jake Fischer's article 10 min ago pretty much states that Tyler Herro makes no sense as the main piece coming back since they already have Scoot/Simons/Sharpe. Portland wants a more defensive-minded young player to fit their young group

OG Anunoby actually makes so much sense for them and a far better fit with their young core. This sounds like Kawhi all over again


I don't see it. We don't have the depth to make a trade like this. We wouldn't be good.

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