Trade Deadline Discussion & Rumours - Raptors and NBA

[Madhouse]

Yeah, I'd rather move down 15 picks (our 1st for Orlando's 2nd) and get a 23 year old Mo Bamba with RFA rights then trade a first for Turner. Though maybe we think some team like Detroit or San Antonio would offer Bamba 60/3 and we definitely wouldn't want to match that.

Bamba would be ok as an alternative, but right now he is still a bit lightweight against Embiid, Vucevic, Bam.

Turners a monster defensively. You guys can pull up all the stats that are in your favor, the dude is an anchor. One of the best in the league. We aren't gonna trade for him I don't think so, the price is too high considering he's so injury prone. But you get the right peices around him and he becomes a real problem... His weaknesses are defensive rebounding and durability.

yeah his metrics are pretty damn good. Also I wouldn't talk down the effect of blocked shots. Can lead to easy fast break buckets and makes the opponent think twice about attacking the basket.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Cleveland plays two non-shooting bigs. Chicago can definitely get away with a few minutes of Poeltl-Vuc, but more importantly they can't get away with Bradley as the back-up 5.

[ItsDanger]

Masai has an interesting dilemma. Make a push now or stay the course? Our management probably can see the contenders are paper tigers this season.

[WuTang_CMB]

I still don't do it and dont think management will by thursday. I'm not giving up 15-23rd pick in the draft at this stage and with us pretty much set with the starting 5. If we had a major need at SG say, and there was a guy like Gary out there, then that's a different story. We have the 5 peices. Just need to keep growing and adding through the draft. As I said, a small skid and going back to the play in spots is very much a possibility... adding that to a first round loss, and a FRP is vital at this stage.

I don't think it will be for lack of effort. It's been reported for about a month now that the FRP is being shopped with Dragic. They have a major need for bench depth, and adding one quality piece will help give them coverage over existing young pieces and take minutes off of Fred and Siakam's workload.

We'll see come Thursday. I just don't see them giving it up and more (2-3 picks) for a 6/7 rotation piece and cap implications down the line. Take the young player at 20th and run.

[OhCanada1091]

Bamba would be ok as an alternative, but right now he is still a bit lightweight against Embiid, Vucevic, Bam.

Turners a monster defensively. You guys can pull up all the stats that are in your favor, the dude is an anchor. One of the best in the league. We aren't gonna trade for him I don't think so, the price is too high considering he's so injury prone. But you get the right peices around him and he becomes a real problem... His weaknesses are defensive rebounding and durability.

yeah his metrics are pretty damn good. Also I wouldn't talk down the effect of blocked shots. Can lead to easy fast break buckets and makes the opponent think twice about attacking the basket.

The guy gets three and a half blocks per game and somehow theres still people arguing whether or not he is a good defensive player lol. I mean come on.

[HumbleRen]

I don't see us getting a 5-6th man level of a player. I think Masai will try to bolster that 7-8th spot with a shooter.

[OhCanada1091]

I still don't do it and dont think management will by thursday. I'm not giving up 15-23rd pick in the draft at this stage and with us pretty much set with the starting 5. If we had a major need at SG say, and there was a guy like Gary out there, then that's a different story. We have the 5 peices. Just need to keep growing and adding through the draft. As I said, a small skid and going back to the play in spots is very much a possibility... adding that to a first round loss, and a FRP is vital at this stage.

I don't think it will be for lack of effort. It's been reported for about a month now that the FRP is being shopped with Dragic. They have a major need for bench depth, and adding one quality piece will help give them coverage over existing young pieces and take minutes off of Fred and Siakam's workload.

We'll see come Thursday. I just don't see them giving it up and more (2-3 picks) for a 6/7 rotation piece and cap implications down the line. Take the young player at 20th and run.

Send a message to the players that you want to win and believe in them. You trust them to develop and dont need any picks. Bring in Jak.

[dukes_wild]

ITT I learned that blocks instantly means you are an elite defender

[HumbleRen]

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[Raptorfan2012]

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Bobby press event tomorrow.

I wonder why - he is probably going to hold another one just after the deadline on Thursday anyways (as he usually does).

[Ell Curry]

You may have looked at Serge as the final piece but I did not. He was a positional upgrade that made us more competitive for the ECF, but even then we got swept by the Cavs.

Trading a mid-to-late first to improve the roster adds depth since the pick is there instead of player assets.

I think we are much further along than early rebuild because of the large improvement shown by FVV, GTJ, and OG this year plus the addition of Barnes who is better offensively than most predicted. I think that when healthy this is a 50 win team who can challenge for the ECF but would be limited by holes up front and on the bench. Filling those holes with a low first round pick makes sense if possible. Drafting and signing free agents to fill the holes is not easy.

Agree on where we were when we got Serge.

But even if we're a 50 win team with say a free bench player (let's assume we could get Fournier and his **** deal for Dragic straight up the second we offer it), that's still probably not a real contender and if we are a 50 win team and feel good about re-upping our 3 free agents (OG, Fred, Trent) don't we project as a 55-60 win team in 2 years (with a decent bench) when Scottie is in year 3 but Fred and Siakam have yet to start their declines (assuming good health?).

I feel like that's when you move a first. IF we move a first this deadline I think it will be for someone we think will be on the team on a decent contract for the next couple years, or can be extended fairly easily, like Derrick White. We're not gonna burn a first for a move that doesn't definitely help us in the 2023 and 2024 playoffs, I don't think.

[douggood]

Turners a monster defensively. You guys can pull up all the stats that are in your favor, the dude is an anchor. One of the best in the league. We aren't gonna trade for him I don't think so, the price is too high considering he's so injury prone. But you get the right peices around him and he becomes a real problem... His weaknesses are defensive rebounding and durability.

yeah his metrics are pretty damn good. Also I wouldn't talk down the effect of blocked shots. Can lead to easy fast break buckets and makes the opponent think twice about attacking the basket.

The guy gets three and a half blocks per game and somehow theres still people arguing whether or not he is a good defensive player lol. I mean come on.

he leaves a lot off assignments, doesnt box out to try and block shots, and thus allows a lot of offensive rebounds, and doesn't rebound much himself.

he is a very good defensive player, but not elite level where he changes the team dynamics. has never made all defensive teams.

[ATLTimekeeper]

We'll see come Thursday. I just don't see them giving it up and more (2-3 picks) for a 6/7 rotation piece and cap implications down the line. Take the young player at 20th and run.

Remember, 6th is essentially a starter. The Raptors don't have a 6. They have a lot of 7s-15s. The other picks don't matter, there's not that many spots left in the rotation to fill. If 6 is a guy that carries starter minutes like Harrison Barnes, you need even less from the rest.

Not that I want Barnes, but him plus year 3 Precious plus Birch is about all the rotation that Nick will permit anyway. And then you let Banton, Champagnie and minimums scrap for the rest.

[GOBlazers]

Any interest in Nurkic? Would you trade a first round pick or young players for him?

[dukes_wild]

Any interest in Nurkic? Would you trade a first round pick or young players for him?

Most the Raps would do is like Boucher + Flynn + 2nd maybe

No way we give up a first for 2 months of Nurkic

[Sandman88]

Any interest in Nurkic? Would you trade a first round pick or young players for him?

Yes, but any of the rumoured centers would have to be on board with a 6th man role. Can’t tinker with a starting line up that’s rolling.

[OhCanada1091]

yeah his metrics are pretty damn good. Also I wouldn't talk down the effect of blocked shots. Can lead to easy fast break buckets and makes the opponent think twice about attacking the basket.

The guy gets three and a half blocks per game and somehow theres still people arguing whether or not he is a good defensive player lol. I mean come on.

he leaves a lot off assignments, doesnt box out to try and block shots, and thus allows a lot of offensive rebounds, and doesn't rebound much himself.

he is a very good defensive player, but not elite level where he changes the team dynamics. has never made all defensive teams.

He's elite. Not sure what idea you have of elite defensive skill and how that works to you but he certainly has it.He never made the defensive teams because hes always injured.

[dukes_wild]

It's always great when players like Turner come up in discussions you really get to see who actually watches other teams aswell and who just watches the Raptors

[WuTang_CMB]

I don't think it will be for lack of effort. It's been reported for about a month now that the FRP is being shopped with Dragic. They have a major need for bench depth, and adding one quality piece will help give them coverage over existing young pieces and take minutes off of Fred and Siakam's workload.

We'll see come Thursday. I just don't see them giving it up and more (2-3 picks) for a 6/7 rotation piece and cap implications down the line. Take the young player at 20th and run.

Send a message to the players that you want to win and believe in them. You trust them to develop and dont need any picks. Bring in Jak.

We are not giving away 2 picks for Jak/Turner.

Play it smart and stay patient. We can easily slip to play in spot and lose in first round or stay where we are and still lose in 1st round.

[Sandman88]

It's always great when players like Turner come up in discussions you really get to see who actually watches other teams aswell and who just watches the Raptors

Yeah, a lot of casuals here dismissing his game when his role has been relegated to spot up shooting in Indy. If these people did a bit of research and see how he’s performed without Sabonis in the line up, they’ll see his impact on both ends.