Pascal Siakam Trade Speculation Thread

[Rapsfan07]

We would not be in the tax next year which has been stated in multiple cases. We go 8-9 deep now, even if you max Pascal, retain quickly, ditch GTJ + the other expirings your still like 13-15mill away from the luxury tax.
Trading Pascal for dumb contracts & far out picks do not accomplish anything of the sort. If there's a young prospect out there for us, sure, I haven't seen anything according to rumors and the proposals y'all are coming up with does not spark any interest for me.

As PhilBlackson said, how do you build a even a mediocre bench when you have all of that salary tied up in your Top 5 players? Now you're suggesting to dump GTJ plus other expirings all to be $13-15M away from the tax but still over the cap so you cannot replace that talent that you just ditched.

It doesn't make any sense man. I get we love Pascal, trust me I do too but it just doesn't make any long term sense to re-sign him to a 5 year max, which is what he's looking for. The team won't be good and trading him is going to be even harder, since he will be making much more per year.

As I've said before, those who don't get it - its fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but if people still can't see this after all the dialogue that's taken place on this board, they're not going to start getting it now.

Are you really making the argument that we can’t afford Pascal because we need to retain GTJ?

[Zeno]

Wonder if the Haliburton injury might accelerate any trade talks. He'll be back 3-4 weeks maybe if its not too bad.

It looked pretty bad to me. That was a full out splits. I'd be absolutely done for if that happened to me. I know he's a professional athlete but I think you got to be a gymnast for that not to a serious injury. Pascal's looked minor by comparison.

Either way, even if he is back in 3-4 weeks, I don't think it makes a trade more likely. I don't think the Pacers need to chase anything. More opportunity for the rest of the roster to develop.

[DreamTeam09]

Just another unfounded gaslighting comment lol

It's been explained many times that it financially doesn't make sense...RJ is already a big contract, Yak is on a bloated contract, IQ is about to get a HUGE pay increase (so another big contract), Pascal would be maxed, Scottie would be maxed out. You'd not only have nothing left to even remotely create a Phoenix Suns like "bench" lol, you'd be a repeat offending lux tax team and for what?!?

That team isn't contending, that team would be LUCKY to be middle of the pack and more likely a Play In team. MLSE is not going to eat literally hundreds of millions in luxury tax for that. That's just being realistic, it's not about "wanting to be bad" lol that's a childlike assertion, it's what is actually feasible if you really want to compete at the highest level and what's not. This is not a feasible option if you REALLY want to contend any time soon.

We would not be in the tax next year which has been stated in multiple cases. We go 8-9 deep now, even if you max Pascal, retain quickly, ditch GTJ + the other expirings your still like 13-15mill away from the luxury tax.
Trading Pascal for dumb contracts & far out picks do not accomplish anything of the sort. If there's a young prospect out there for us, sure, I haven't seen anything according to rumors and the proposals y'all are coming up with does not spark any interest for me.

As PhilBlackson said, how do you build a even a mediocre bench when you have all of that salary tied up in your Top 5 players? Now you're suggesting to dump GTJ plus other expirings all to be $13-15M away from the tax but still over the cap so you cannot replace that talent that you just ditched.

It doesn't make any sense man. I get we love Pascal, trust me I do too but it just doesn't make any long term sense to re-sign him to a 5 year max, which is what he's looking for. The team won't be good and trading him is going to be even harder, since he will be making much more per year.

As I've said before, those who don't get it - its fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but if people still can't see this after all the dialogue that's taken place on this board, they're not going to start getting it now.

Well in theory next yr you could have and still be under the tax line

IQ
Barnes
RJ
Pascal
Jakob
DS
Boucher
McDaniels
Dick
Koloko
#31
10-11mill(MLE) Full MLE is 13

The year after, tax implications will definitely have to be considered.

[Kreamy]

Have a feeling the best offer will end up from the Kings for Huerter, Barnes, 2 firsts and a swap.

[WuTang_CMB]

Have a feeling the best offer will end up from the Kings for Huerter, Barnes, 2 firsts and a swap.

I think if Pacers are still interested they blow this deal out of the water. i will even take brown over hield

[720]

This apparently is Kings insider info.

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Ya we're getting that poo poo platter special.

Yup

[Rapsfan07]

We would not be in the tax next year which has been stated in multiple cases. We go 8-9 deep now, even if you max Pascal, retain quickly, ditch GTJ + the other expirings your still like 13-15mill away from the luxury tax.
Trading Pascal for dumb contracts & far out picks do not accomplish anything of the sort. If there's a young prospect out there for us, sure, I haven't seen anything according to rumors and the proposals y'all are coming up with does not spark any interest for me.

As PhilBlackson said, how do you build a even a mediocre bench when you have all of that salary tied up in your Top 5 players? Now you're suggesting to dump GTJ plus other expirings all to be $13-15M away from the tax but still over the cap so you cannot replace that talent that you just ditched.

It doesn't make any sense man. I get we love Pascal, trust me I do too but it just doesn't make any long term sense to re-sign him to a 5 year max, which is what he's looking for. The team won't be good and trading him is going to be even harder, since he will be making much more per year.

As I've said before, those who don't get it - its fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but if people still can't see this after all the dialogue that's taken place on this board, they're not going to start getting it now.

Well in theory next yr you could have and still be under the tax line

IQ
Barnes
RJ
Pascal
Jakob
DS
Boucher
McDaniels
Dick
Koloko
#31
10-11mill(MLE) Full MLE is 13

The year after, tax implications will definitely have to be considered.

Right. So as I said in my previous post - you have absolutely no bench and an MLE player isn't going to be the difference between what we're seeing now and contending for a championship.

So why kick the can down the road, wasting another year of everyone's time and running the risk of further devaluing Siakam as an asset when you can just do what needs to be done now and move on? It just doesn't make any sense bro.

[Kreamy]

Have a feeling the best offer will end up from the Kings for Huerter, Barnes, 2 firsts and a swap.

I think if Pacers are still interested they blow this deal out of the water. i will even take brown over hield

It'll all depend on Haliburton's injury. If he's out for the season or an extended period of time, Indiana will probably end up making a smaller move like trading Hield for a defender.

[right between the eyes]

Pascal Siakam reportedly told the Kings he would not re-sign after this season, which is what ended trade talks with the Raptors, per
@DLoAndKC
.

Sacramento had a proposal primarily built around Harrison Barnes and draft capital.

[Rapsobsessed7]

This apparently is Kings insider info.

Read on Twitter

Ya we're getting that poo poo platter special.

Yup

Who’s speaking in this clip and why do they sound like they are hiding from someone in a basement?

Take this with an absolute grain of salt.

[Rapsobsessed7]

Pascal Siakam reportedly told the Kings he would not re-sign after this season, which is what ended trade talks with the Raptors, per
@DLoAndKC
.

Sacramento had a proposal primarily built around Harrison Barnes and draft capital.

Makes no sense.

1. I thought the kings wouldn’t offer the max? Why would Siakam take less to stay in Sacramento?

2. How does Kevin Rashidi of the Sacramento kings break this over every other insider?

I do not believe this for a second and surprised anyone else does.

[TimeForChange]

time for the raps to become buyers

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[DreamTeam09]

As PhilBlackson said, how do you build a even a mediocre bench when you have all of that salary tied up in your Top 5 players? Now you're suggesting to dump GTJ plus other expirings all to be $13-15M away from the tax but still over the cap so you cannot replace that talent that you just ditched.

It doesn't make any sense man. I get we love Pascal, trust me I do too but it just doesn't make any long term sense to re-sign him to a 5 year max, which is what he's looking for. The team won't be good and trading him is going to be even harder, since he will be making much more per year.

As I've said before, those who don't get it - its fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but if people still can't see this after all the dialogue that's taken place on this board, they're not going to start getting it now.

Well in theory next yr you could have and still be under the tax line

IQ
Barnes
RJ
Pascal
Jakob
DS
Boucher
McDaniels
Dick
Koloko
#31
10-11mill(MLE) Full MLE is 13

The year after, tax implications will definitely have to be considered.

Right. So as I said in my previous post - you have absolutely no bench and an MLE player isn't going to be the difference between what we're seeing now and contending for a championship.

So why kick the can down the road, wasting another year of everyone's time and running the risk of further devaluing Siakam as an asset when you can just do what needs to be done now and move on? It just doesn't make any sense bro.

Well it's the same bench we use now minus GTJ, I wouldn't wanna give him more than an MLE contract anyway. So far DS GTJ Boucher looks like a fine bench, I think we can replace GTJ bench production with the 11mill...

Calling it a waste of a year & wasting everyone's time is a bit harsh and the worst case scenario, also Pascals risk of value decreasing is worst case scenario too. In my scenario we continue what we have going on now and our guys make some internal growth movements, and we have a full training camp under our belts with the new guys, with everyone signed and good vibes rolling and we see what happens from there.

[Psubs]

Have a feeling the best offer will end up from the Kings for Huerter, Barnes, 2 firsts and a swap.

I think if Pacers are still interested they blow this deal out of the water. i will even take brown over hield

I would take Jarace Walker, Bruce Brown and a 1st pick and run.

[Tor_Raps]

time for the raps to become buyers

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What was the deleted tweet? Lol

[TimeForChange]

time for the raps to become buyers

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What was the deleted tweet? Lol

grizzlies will look to be sellers with kennard and smart pictured

[WuTang_CMB]

Have a feeling the best offer will end up from the Kings for Huerter, Barnes, 2 firsts and a swap.

I think if Pacers are still interested they blow this deal out of the water. i will even take brown over hield

It'll all depend on Haliburton's injury. If he's out for the season or an extended period of time, Indiana will probably end up making a smaller move like trading Hield for a defender.

hamstring injury. i think max 3-5 weeks.

[Tor_Raps]

time for the raps to become buyers

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What was the deleted tweet? Lol

grizzlies will look to be sellers with kennard and smart pictured

We have no reason to go after guys who are not part of the rebuild. We are not winning a championship anytime soon. Just gotta keep stockpiling young talent and grow.

[WuTang_CMB]

send him to the pacers

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[WaltFrazier]

I've said it before but I truly think Siakam has already been tampered with from Philly and will sign there in the offseason for the max. He is going to finish the season and head there with us getting nothing back.

/Tin Foil Conspiracy

If that's true, in that case is there any benefit to a sign and trade, for either side? I never see sign and trade mentioned re Pascal, but it happens with Kyle, not Fred.