2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 5

[Mark_83]

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[Grew]

Topic reminds me of Thomas Satoransky with a quicker first step. Wouldn't be very excited to add him to the team if we had kept our pick. Now with the knee injuries, I would pass on him at 19. Will be interesting to see how his career goes.

[WuTang_CMB]

i dont know where 7' wingspan was ... everytime I checked it was neutral

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[Dalek]

I think version 6'9" is dead, at least for this draft. I think draft people are slowly realizing that this might not be the draft for wings/forwards because those players seem to be the biggest projects. My signature skills if you can't get a franchise type player cover shooting, self-creation, two-way play and rim protection. I also think GMs drafting in the top ten tend to want to draft younger for the most part.

My top ten includes seven guards who I think are lotto guys:

Castle (Two-way lead guard)
Sheppard (Best shooter in class)
Dillingham (Best scorer in class)
Topic (Best pure PG and close to best driver in class)
Collier (best driver/finisher in the class)
Carrington (high potential shooter who is only 18 and has good positional size/bball IQ)
Jared McCain (elite shooter who is plug and play in any offense)

The other half of the top ten are bigs:
Clingan (Best rim protector)
Sarr (Stretch C prospect)
Edey (Dominant low post scorer)
Filipowski (Stretch PF/C)

Just outside the top ten:

Risacher (not an elite shooter, and between being a SG/SF) He has the best shot of making the top ten surpassing Filipowski.
Buzelis (huge project and a tweener)
Knecht (23 year-old wings rarely get picked in the top ten - this guy is like Doug McDermott)
Salaun (poor shooter and project)
Cody Williams (under weight and a project SF)
Ron Holland (non-shooter SF)

[deeps6x]

Current Mocks:

Ringer: Walter (19) / Filipowski (31)
Tankathon: Carter (19) / Dunn (31)
Nbadraft.net: Missi (19) / Alexander (31)
Yahoo: Walter (19) / Shannon Jr (31)
Sam Vecenie: Missi (19) / George (31)
Espn: George (19) / Smith (31)
Hoopshype: Missi (19) / McCullar (31)
Cbs: Ware (19)
Bleacher: George (19)

Too many mocks have us taking Missi. It feels like that's the smokescreen being fed out, like when all of the mocks had us taking Suggs over Scottie.

[PoundTown]

Current Mocks:

Ringer: Walter (19) / Filipowski (31)
Tankathon: Carter (19) / Dunn (31)
Nbadraft.net: Missi (19) / Alexander (31)
Yahoo: Walter (19) / Shannon Jr (31)
Sam Vecenie: Missi (19) / George (31)
Espn: George (19) / Smith (31)
Hoopshype: Missi (19) / McCullar (31)
Cbs: Ware (19)
Bleacher: George (19)

Too many mocks have us taking Missi. It feels like that's the smokescreen being fed out, like when all of the mocks had us taking Suggs over Scottie.

I never watched Missi play, but I'd expect better defensive numbers for what is supposed to be an athletic, defense oriented center.

[alpngso]

Topic still probably goes top 15 even after all this right?

[DG88]

i dont know where 7' wingspan was ... everytime I checked it was neutral

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But he has neckspan

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Other than Ware or maybe Edey with an amazing workout, I wouldn’t take any of the other C’s with the 19th pick.

Hoping to hear more about workouts or who’s been in contact

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

still good dimensions for Topic

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

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These are many of the centers Edey will face off against in the NBA in terms of dimensions, 6'11 240 like Carson Cooper. You also don't stand a chance running a small ball lineup against an Edey lineup. While I have my doubts about the performance against Clingan because Hurley's strategy was to make sure Clingan doesn't foul out at all costs and likely resulted in him playing more conservatively, it still could be that Edey would punish a Clingan who is already an NBA caliber interior defender. What does that make Edey? An NBA caliber interior scorer, potentially an elite one.

Edey should be able to translate to NBA ball.

[PoundTown]

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These are many of the centers Edey will face off against in the NBA in terms of dimensions, 6'11 240 like Carson Cooper. You also don't stand a chance running a small ball lineup against an Edey lineup. While I have my doubts about the performance against Clingan because Hurley's strategy was to make sure Clingan doesn't foul out at all costs and likely resulted in him playing more conservatively, it still could be that Edey would punish a Clingan who is already an NBA caliber interior defender. What does that make Edey? An NBA caliber interior scorer, potentially an elite one.

Edey should be able to translate to NBA ball.

I think the guy will be able to defend in drop coverage if he's expected to play more like 28-30 minutes a game, as he will have lower usage at the pro level. So, if you believe in his deep ball, he will probably be a pretty good player. How much his passing game can develop will determine how much he's used offensively. Right now, that is the weak point of his offensive game.

[GP2]

It's bonkers how much positive PR about Bronny James is being shoved down everyone's throats. They're really trying their darndest to bury the nepotism angle. It's funny. Lebron still has this entire league by the balls.

[Risk101]

Topic still probably goes top 15 even after all this right?

2 significant knee injuries. I don't know.

If we could get him at 19 I wouldn't mind it. I remember the reason O.G fell so late in his draft was because of the acl tear,


Getting Topic would be a steal for us.

[CazOnReal]

Current Mocks:

Ringer: Walter (19) / Filipowski (31)
Tankathon: Carter (19) / Dunn (31)
Nbadraft.net: Missi (19) / Alexander (31)
Yahoo: Walter (19) / Shannon Jr (31)
Sam Vecenie: Missi (19) / George (31)
Espn: George (19) / Smith (31)
Hoopshype: Missi (19) / McCullar (31)
Cbs: Ware (19)
Bleacher: George (19)

Too many mocks have us taking Missi. It feels like that's the smokescreen being fed out, like when all of the mocks had us taking Suggs over Scottie.

I never watched Missi play, but I'd expect better defensive numbers for what is supposed to be an athletic, defense oriented center.

This is the one knock against Missi for being a Raptors selection: Toronto typically goes with guys who are advanced stats darlings and while Missi passes the eye test, his advanced stats aren't super impressive.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

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These are many of the centers Edey will face off against in the NBA in terms of dimensions, 6'11 240 like Carson Cooper. You also don't stand a chance running a small ball lineup against an Edey lineup. While I have my doubts about the performance against Clingan because Hurley's strategy was to make sure Clingan doesn't foul out at all costs and likely resulted in him playing more conservatively, it still could be that Edey would punish a Clingan who is already an NBA caliber interior defender. What does that make Edey? An NBA caliber interior scorer, potentially an elite one.

Edey should be able to translate to NBA ball.

I think the guy will be able to defend in drop coverage if he's expected to play more like 28-30 minutes a game, as he will have lower usage at the pro level. So, if you believe in his deep ball, he will probably be a pretty good player. How much his passing game can develop will determine how much he's used offensively. Right now, that is the weak point of his offensive game.

gonna disagree, Edey doesn't need a deep ball to be a good player, he just needs his current game to scale up. everything else is icing on the cake. if his TS% scales you want him as a high usage player. he has proven he can handle a huge workload on O. if he can establish himself as that good of a scoring threat inside the doubles will come and the passing reads he will need to make will be limited and easy enough to execute. take him to the film room and run drills with him nonstop to improve his processing speed on passes out of the double team and he'll be fine.

the guy has a fantastic TS% on primary/secondary option volume. if he can jack up 2 three's a game and hit at avg rate or get his FT% consistently beyond 75% he's easily an elite scorer.

[YogurtProducer]

Current Mocks:

Ringer: Walter (19) / Filipowski (31)
Tankathon: Carter (19) / Dunn (31)
Nbadraft.net: Missi (19) / Alexander (31)
Yahoo: Walter (19) / Shannon Jr (31)
Sam Vecenie: Missi (19) / George (31)
Espn: George (19) / Smith (31)
Hoopshype: Missi (19) / McCullar (31)
Cbs: Ware (19)
Bleacher: George (19)

Too many mocks have us taking Missi. It feels like that's the smokescreen being fed out, like when all of the mocks had us taking Suggs over Scottie.

These guys also don't really know a damn thing and fall into group think.

That is why every mock is pretty similar to each other.

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These are many of the centers Edey will face off against in the NBA in terms of dimensions, 6'11 240 like Carson Cooper. You also don't stand a chance running a small ball lineup against an Edey lineup. While I have my doubts about the performance against Clingan because Hurley's strategy was to make sure Clingan doesn't foul out at all costs and likely resulted in him playing more conservatively, it still could be that Edey would punish a Clingan who is already an NBA caliber interior defender. What does that make Edey? An NBA caliber interior scorer, potentially an elite one.

Edey should be able to translate to NBA ball.

I think the guy will be able to defend in drop coverage if he's expected to play more like 28-30 minutes a game, as he will have lower usage at the pro level. So, if you believe in his deep ball, he will probably be a pretty good player. How much his passing game can develop will determine how much he's used offensively. Right now, that is the weak point of his offensive game.

gonna disagree, Edey doesn't need a deep ball to be a good player, he just needs his current game to scale up. everything else is icing on the cake. if his TS% scales you want him as a high usage player. he has proven he can handle a huge workload on O. if he can establish himself as that good of a scoring threat inside the doubles will come and the passing reads he will need to make will be limited and easy enough to execute. take him to the film room and run drills with him nonstop to improve his processing speed on passes out of the double team and he'll be fine.

the guy has a fantastic TS% on primary/secondary option volume. if he can jack up 2 three's a game and hit at avg rate or get his FT% consistently beyond 75% he's easily an elite scorer.

Why would you want a 7’4” 300 pound guy shooting 3’s?
On offense I want him close to the basket all the time.

[WuTang_CMB]

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[PoundTown]

I think the guy will be able to defend in drop coverage if he's expected to play more like 28-30 minutes a game, as he will have lower usage at the pro level. So, if you believe in his deep ball, he will probably be a pretty good player. How much his passing game can develop will determine how much he's used offensively. Right now, that is the weak point of his offensive game.

gonna disagree, Edey doesn't need a deep ball to be a good player, he just needs his current game to scale up. everything else is icing on the cake. if his TS% scales you want him as a high usage player. he has proven he can handle a huge workload on O. if he can establish himself as that good of a scoring threat inside the doubles will come and the passing reads he will need to make will be limited and easy enough to execute. take him to the film room and run drills with him nonstop to improve his processing speed on passes out of the double team and he'll be fine.

the guy has a fantastic TS% on primary/secondary option volume. if he can jack up 2 three's a game and hit at avg rate or get his FT% consistently beyond 75% he's easily an elite scorer.

Why would you want a 7’4” 300 pound guy shooting 3’s?
On offense I want him close to the basket all the time.

I mean kind of, but you can't have him play the way he did in college, unless you are committed to dumping the ball into him on most possessions and him occupying the middle of the floor on offence. He is going to be used more like a JV, so him being able to shoot the ball when he's not trying to bang and post down low is definitely an advantage in openning up space for guys like Scottie. Don't know how it can seen as a good thing, unless you think he's going to be as dominant as Shaq was, which I don't.