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Re: With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles! 

Post#661 » by XTC » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:37 am

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Walid wrote:Can't shoot or create.


Yep. 75% of his shots were under the rim and he hit less than 2/3's. That's against college competition. He'll be facing bigger and more athletic defenders. His jumper and FT need a huge improvement.

While he's being touted as a defensive guy, some of the knocks on him are that his lateral movement is sub par and he lacks quickness and vertical explosiveness. He's not considered a great athlete, which is subjective given the pool of comparisons (all NBA players are better athletes than 99% of the world), but that's what he'll be up against every game so the comparison must be made.

Sooo... we just got a less athletic Mogbo.

I hate Duke pretty much more than any other team in college basketball, but I was all in on Maluach for quite some time. I think passing on him will come back to haunt them.


You've never seen CMB play bro. Its alright to not like the pick, but I really do suggest watch some footage. This wasn't a guy backing down smaller players and dunking on them, or him being spoonfed buckets by his guards... he was creating his own offense. This was a guy who used his IQ, size, strength, ball handling, and athleticism to create his shot, or draw a foul. He was legitimately the only efficient player on his team. To say he didn't create his own shot is honestly ignorant.

The same people slamming the pick today where slamming the Scottie pick saying we picked a guy averaging 10/4/4, who came off the bench.
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Post#662 » by Harry Palmer » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:39 am

This is going to sound slightly more sarcastic than intended: I kinda like him for a short un-athletic guy who can’t shoot and doesn’t want to be here.
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Post#663 » by XTC » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:44 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:If he was slightly bigger he would be Julius, better defender & probably better playmaker.


CMB has a higher standing reach + wingspan than Julius Randle.
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Re: With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles! 

Post#664 » by manjusaka » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:52 am

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Clutch0z24 wrote:Will CMB be better than OG is the question i have....Because we had OG on the team with Barnes/Yak/Siakam and we still struggled....And OG imo was a better fit with Barnes than CMB....Thats maybe my only concern....I don't think Barnes/CMB can be in the same lineup much and Barnes is our
"franchise player"...


People throw comparisions like OG, Draymond, because they hear hes the best defender in the draft... but those comparisions dont really do him justice. FWIW I've probably seen CMB play around 6 times, at first I wasn't a big fan at all(I think I compared him to Kyle Anderson), but the kids game kept growing on me the more I watched him, and by the end of the draft I was a believer.

Yes he needs to work on his 3 point shooting, but he was pretty solid from mid range, creating his shot on a awful team efficiently. He has an offensive bag, and he knows how to get to the rim, which makes him deadly because he has a super soft touch... and the kid is SUPER strong, its not even funny. If he was hitting 3's this year, this draft has 3 potential stars in Flagg, Harper, and CMB. People are going to be pleasantly surprised with him IMO. He's a great defender, rebounder, a solid passer, he draws fouls at an elite rate, he knows how to create his shot, and he has the ability to get to the rim. If his jumper catches up, you're looking at an allstar easily.

If you're looking for a comparision, offensively he kind of reminds me of a Julius Randle/Scottie Barnes mix. He likes to operate on the elbow, and hes a willing passer, who makes quick reads. The jumper isnt there, but he knows how to use his strength, size, and ball handling to get to his spots, to either get to the rim or get fouled. Super high IQ offensively + defensively.

If you look at my post history, I said the same thing about Scottie pre draft. CMB is a baller, and I love his fit next to Scottie. The shooting isnt there yet, but you got two big wings, who are athletic, handle + pass the ball, and defend on their level... I think they're going to be terrifying together in a good way. In a couple years hes going to be up there with Flagg, and Harper in their own tier in this draft IMO.



CMB does need to improve his shooting. But I think the focus with the duo of SB and CMB is within the 3 point line. They have the talent to dominate that area defensively and offensively.

I believe CMB will be given the role of crushing the basket. Together with SB, they will create opening on the 3 point line for the others.

We are missing a stretch 5. Someone like Al Horford or Myles Turner will do, but they are rare.
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Re: With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles! 

Post#665 » by Clutch0z24 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 8:55 am

For anyone wondering....I have the video in HD playback

https://ok.ru/video/10082322811564

1:08 mins

^ NBA Draft full

Just went back to see exactly his reaction to getting picked ....May have been an over reaction
But i read the lips before the Adam Silver Announcment...

"His girl had a sulking look on her face"
"He smiles looking around and asks someone, "Am i really going here......"Damn"
Few seconds later he shakes his head saying "Nahh" And mouths something else i can't really tell what he said

Camera pans away and comes back to him rubbing his face looking a little down....

And then he gets picked and everyone seen the reaction after that...

Might have been a little 2 deep in there but just wanted to get the details correct....Even if he was a little upset coming here im sure he will love it after a few weeks....I suspect it was more his GF who didn't like it rather than him and thats why the reaction....

I know he said after the fact it was a "Shocked" moment but he wouldn't come out and say anything different....Its not like he would admit on live TV to being upset...Im not a body language expert but...
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Re: With the 9th Pick, the Raptors select Collin Murray-Boyles! 

Post#666 » by XTC » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:02 am

Clutch0z24 wrote:For anyone wondering....I have the video in HD playback

https://ok.ru/video/10082322811564

1:08 mins

^ NBA Draft full

Just went back to see exactly his reaction to getting picked ....May have been an over reaction
But i read the lips before the Adam Silver Announcment...

"His girl had a sulking look on her face"
"He smiles looking around and asks someone, "Am i really going here......"Damn"
Few seconds later he shakes his head saying "Nahh" And mouths something else i can't really tell what he said

Camera pans away and comes back to him rubbing his face looking a little down....

And then he gets picked and everyone seen the reaction after that...

Might have been a little 2 deep in there but just wanted to get the details correct....Even if he was a little upset coming here im sure he will love it after a few weeks....I suspect it was more his GF who didn't like it rather than him and thats why the reaction....

I know he said after the fact it was a "Shocked" moment but he wouldn't come out and say anything different....Its not like he would admit on live TV to being upset...Im not a body language expert but...


You're reading too much into it. He has interviewed with the team a month ago, if he didn't want to play here he would have let his intentions known then. Furthermore

Read on Twitter


He has literally gone on media and said he would be a perfect fit in Toronto, 1 month before the draft.
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Post#667 » by Mack11 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:10 am

XTC wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:For anyone wondering....I have the video in HD playback

https://ok.ru/video/10082322811564

1:08 mins

^ NBA Draft full

Just went back to see exactly his reaction to getting picked ....May have been an over reaction
But i read the lips before the Adam Silver Announcment...

"His girl had a sulking look on her face"
"He smiles looking around and asks someone, "Am i really going here......"Damn"
Few seconds later he shakes his head saying "Nahh" And mouths something else i can't really tell what he said

Camera pans away and comes back to him rubbing his face looking a little down....

And then he gets picked and everyone seen the reaction after that...

Might have been a little 2 deep in there but just wanted to get the details correct....Even if he was a little upset coming here im sure he will love it after a few weeks....I suspect it was more his GF who didn't like it rather than him and thats why the reaction....

I know he said after the fact it was a "Shocked" moment but he wouldn't come out and say anything different....Its not like he would admit on live TV to being upset...Im not a body language expert but...


You're reading too much into it. He has interviewed with the team a month ago, if he didn't want to play here he would have let his intentions known then. Furthermore

Read on Twitter


He has literally gone on media and said he would be a perfect fit in Toronto, 1 month before the draft.


Lol what was he supposed to say? Yeah dont draft me here i dont fit well with this roster?

Masai and co seem to like drafting opposite of what the fans want.. We have 2 positional glaring needs which is PG and C and we chose to draft another draymond green archtype
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Post#668 » by XTC » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:12 am

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XTC wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:For anyone wondering....I have the video in HD playback

https://ok.ru/video/10082322811564

1:08 mins

^ NBA Draft full

Just went back to see exactly his reaction to getting picked ....May have been an over reaction
But i read the lips before the Adam Silver Announcment...

"His girl had a sulking look on her face"
"He smiles looking around and asks someone, "Am i really going here......"Damn"
Few seconds later he shakes his head saying "Nahh" And mouths something else i can't really tell what he said

Camera pans away and comes back to him rubbing his face looking a little down....

And then he gets picked and everyone seen the reaction after that...

Might have been a little 2 deep in there but just wanted to get the details correct....Even if he was a little upset coming here im sure he will love it after a few weeks....I suspect it was more his GF who didn't like it rather than him and thats why the reaction....

I know he said after the fact it was a "Shocked" moment but he wouldn't come out and say anything different....Its not like he would admit on live TV to being upset...Im not a body language expert but...


You're reading too much into it. He has interviewed with the team a month ago, if he didn't want to play here he would have let his intentions known then. Furthermore

Read on Twitter


He has literally gone on media and said he would be a perfect fit in Toronto, 1 month before the draft.


Lol what was he supposed to say? Yeah dont draft me here i dont fit well with this roster?


He said that 1 month before the draft

"They're a perfect fit for me"

Yall reading way too much into it, its comical.
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Post#669 » by Clutch0z24 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:13 am

XTC wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:For anyone wondering....I have the video in HD playback

https://ok.ru/video/10082322811564

1:08 mins

^ NBA Draft full

Just went back to see exactly his reaction to getting picked ....May have been an over reaction
But i read the lips before the Adam Silver Announcment...

"His girl had a sulking look on her face"
"He smiles looking around and asks someone, "Am i really going here......"Damn"
Few seconds later he shakes his head saying "Nahh" And mouths something else i can't really tell what he said

Camera pans away and comes back to him rubbing his face looking a little down....

And then he gets picked and everyone seen the reaction after that...

Might have been a little 2 deep in there but just wanted to get the details correct....Even if he was a little upset coming here im sure he will love it after a few weeks....I suspect it was more his GF who didn't like it rather than him and thats why the reaction....

I know he said after the fact it was a "Shocked" moment but he wouldn't come out and say anything different....Its not like he would admit on live TV to being upset...Im not a body language expert but...


You're reading too much into it. He has interviewed with the team a month ago, if he didn't want to play here he would have let his intentions known then. Furthermore

Read on Twitter


He has literally gone on media and said he would be a perfect fit in Toronto, 1 month before the draft.


I mean maybe....But i like to think body language is pretty obvious to read....Its not like i give a damn about if he wanted to be here or not because he has no choice and he will end up loving Toronto when he is here....But....I don't think people were wrong seeing his reaction...



Can't get audio but read the lips and look at his face and his GFs face....Them looks are not happy or excited looks lol...
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Post#670 » by S ID » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:15 am

Mack11 wrote:
XTC wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:For anyone wondering....I have the video in HD playback

https://ok.ru/video/10082322811564

1:08 mins

^ NBA Draft full

Just went back to see exactly his reaction to getting picked ....May have been an over reaction
But i read the lips before the Adam Silver Announcment...

"His girl had a sulking look on her face"
"He smiles looking around and asks someone, "Am i really going here......"Damn"
Few seconds later he shakes his head saying "Nahh" And mouths something else i can't really tell what he said

Camera pans away and comes back to him rubbing his face looking a little down....

And then he gets picked and everyone seen the reaction after that...

Might have been a little 2 deep in there but just wanted to get the details correct....Even if he was a little upset coming here im sure he will love it after a few weeks....I suspect it was more his GF who didn't like it rather than him and thats why the reaction....

I know he said after the fact it was a "Shocked" moment but he wouldn't come out and say anything different....Its not like he would admit on live TV to being upset...Im not a body language expert but...


You're reading too much into it. He has interviewed with the team a month ago, if he didn't want to play here he would have let his intentions known then. Furthermore

Read on Twitter


He has literally gone on media and said he would be a perfect fit in Toronto, 1 month before the draft.


Lol what was he supposed to say? Yeah dont draft me here i dont fit well with this roster?

Masai and co dont seem to like drafting opposite of what the fans want.. We have 2 positional glaring needs which is PG and C and we chose to draft another draymond green archtype

Why did him and his team setup a dinner, interview and workout if had 0 intention of going to Toronto? Why didn’t he refuse like every other prospect in history that doesn’t want to go to a particular team?
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Post#671 » by XTC » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:18 am

Clutch0z24 wrote:
XTC wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:For anyone wondering....I have the video in HD playback

https://ok.ru/video/10082322811564

1:08 mins

^ NBA Draft full

Just went back to see exactly his reaction to getting picked ....May have been an over reaction
But i read the lips before the Adam Silver Announcment...

"His girl had a sulking look on her face"
"He smiles looking around and asks someone, "Am i really going here......"Damn"
Few seconds later he shakes his head saying "Nahh" And mouths something else i can't really tell what he said

Camera pans away and comes back to him rubbing his face looking a little down....

And then he gets picked and everyone seen the reaction after that...

Might have been a little 2 deep in there but just wanted to get the details correct....Even if he was a little upset coming here im sure he will love it after a few weeks....I suspect it was more his GF who didn't like it rather than him and thats why the reaction....

I know he said after the fact it was a "Shocked" moment but he wouldn't come out and say anything different....Its not like he would admit on live TV to being upset...Im not a body language expert but...


You're reading too much into it. He has interviewed with the team a month ago, if he didn't want to play here he would have let his intentions known then. Furthermore

Read on Twitter


He has literally gone on media and said he would be a perfect fit in Toronto, 1 month before the draft.


I mean maybe....But i like to think body language is pretty obvious to read....Its not like i give a damn about if he wanted to be here or not because he has no choice and he will end up loving Toronto when he is here....But....I don't think people were wrong seeing his reaction...



Can't get audio but read the lips and look at his face and his GFs face....Them looks are not happy or excited looks lol...


He looks nervous more than anything. I watched the draft, and his entire family was happy and hugging him after he stood up, his girl was even clapping.

There's a reason why teams conduct interviews with players, you really think Masai wouldn't be able to get a hint if CMB didn't want to be drafted by us? Players, and agents let it be known especially nowadays where they want their clients to go. A guy like Masai would never draft a guy who doesn't want to be here.

The kid literally worked out for us, and did a personal interview with the team. If he didn't want to be here, he wouldn't have worked out, or done the interview.
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Post#672 » by Clutch0z24 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:19 am

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XTC wrote:
You're reading too much into it. He has interviewed with the team a month ago, if he didn't want to play here he would have let his intentions known then. Furthermore

Read on Twitter


He has literally gone on media and said he would be a perfect fit in Toronto, 1 month before the draft.


Lol what was he supposed to say? Yeah dont draft me here i dont fit well with this roster?

Masai and co dont seem to like drafting opposite of what the fans want.. We have 2 positional glaring needs which is PG and C and we chose to draft another draymond green archtype

Why did him and his team setup a dinner, interview and workout if had 0 intention of going to Toronto? Why didn’t he refuse like every other prospect in history that doesn’t want to go to a particular team?


Its a business....CMB and his GF obviously had a particular destintion in mind over Raptors...Most likely Suns....He was prolly upset not landing in his perfered destination if i had to guess....And his GF prolly did not want her BF to live in Canada since she plays basketball far away.
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Post#673 » by XTC » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:22 am

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Lol what was he supposed to say? Yeah dont draft me here i dont fit well with this roster?

Masai and co dont seem to like drafting opposite of what the fans want.. We have 2 positional glaring needs which is PG and C and we chose to draft another draymond green archtype

Why did him and his team setup a dinner, interview and workout if had 0 intention of going to Toronto? Why didn’t he refuse like every other prospect in history that doesn’t want to go to a particular team?


Its a business....CMB and his GF obviously had a particular destintion in mind over Raptors...Most likely Suns....He was prolly upset not landing in his perfered destination if i had to guess....And his GF prolly did not want her BF to live in Canada since she plays basketball far away.


He literally worked out with the team, and went to a team dinner lmao.

You don't do that if you dont want to be drafted by a team, business or not. Im not attending a interview somewhere I dont want to work.
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Post#674 » by Mack11 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:23 am

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Mack11 wrote:
XTC wrote:
You're reading too much into it. He has interviewed with the team a month ago, if he didn't want to play here he would have let his intentions known then. Furthermore

Read on Twitter


He has literally gone on media and said he would be a perfect fit in Toronto, 1 month before the draft.


Lol what was he supposed to say? Yeah dont draft me here i dont fit well with this roster?

Masai and co dont seem to like drafting opposite of what the fans want.. We have 2 positional glaring needs which is PG and C and we chose to draft another draymond green archtype

Why did him and his team setup a dinner, interview and workout if had 0 intention of going to Toronto? Why didn’t he refuse like every other prospect in history that doesn’t want to go to a particular team?


I never said he didnt want to come here, i just said hes saying all the right things that you;d say in a job interview and its not really indication of how he feels. Houston/phx was on the clock after us and although im sure he prob accepted the fact that hes a raptor maybe we werent his first choice and hed prefer playing in a warm American city
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Post#675 » by Clutch0z24 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:25 am

XTC wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:
S ID wrote:Why did him and his team setup a dinner, interview and workout if had 0 intention of going to Toronto? Why didn’t he refuse like every other prospect in history that doesn’t want to go to a particular team?


Its a business....CMB and his GF obviously had a particular destintion in mind over Raptors...Most likely Suns....He was prolly upset not landing in his perfered destination if i had to guess....And his GF prolly did not want her BF to live in Canada since she plays basketball far away.


He literally worked out with the team, and went to a team dinner lmao.

You don't do that if you dont want to be drafted by a team.


You are not understanding what im saying....I don't think HE himself didn't want to come here....I think HIM and his GF had a prefered destination over Toronto which if i had to guess it was the Suns....Since Phx is alot closer to where his GF plays ball....I think thats why they had that reaction....The reaction was obviously not happy/joyfull if you are being honest and subjective ....But it doesn't matter anyways hes in Toronto....
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Post#676 » by Clutch0z24 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:27 am

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Lol what was he supposed to say? Yeah dont draft me here i dont fit well with this roster?

Masai and co dont seem to like drafting opposite of what the fans want.. We have 2 positional glaring needs which is PG and C and we chose to draft another draymond green archtype

Why did him and his team setup a dinner, interview and workout if had 0 intention of going to Toronto? Why didn’t he refuse like every other prospect in history that doesn’t want to go to a particular team?


I never said he didnt want to come here, i just said hes saying all the right things that you;d say in a job interview and its not really indication of how he feels. Houston/phx was on the clock after us and although im sure he prob accepted the fact that hes a raptor maybe we werent his first choice and hed prefer playing in a warm American city


Exaclty this ^...This is prolly why the reaction was what it was...But im sure CMB will love Toronto once he gets here.
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Post#677 » by _MidNight_ » Thu Jun 26, 2025 9:34 am

PhilBlackson wrote:If only this kid had a 3, I like everything else about him but that's a serious flaw with Scottie & Yak.

He's obv a certified dog though so he's bound to end up a fan favorite anyways.


If he had a 3, I believe he's the third pick in this draft easily.
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Post#678 » by DG88 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:00 am

Clutch0z24 wrote:
XTC wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:
Its a business....CMB and his GF obviously had a particular destintion in mind over Raptors...Most likely Suns....He was prolly upset not landing in his perfered destination if i had to guess....And his GF prolly did not want her BF to live in Canada since she plays basketball far away.


He literally worked out with the team, and went to a team dinner lmao.

You don't do that if you dont want to be drafted by a team.


You are not understanding what im saying....I don't think HE himself didn't want to come here....I think HIM and his GF had a prefered destination over Toronto which if i had to guess it was the Suns....Since Phx is alot closer to where his GF plays ball....I think thats why they had that reaction....The reaction was obviously not happy/joyfull if you are being honest and subjective ....But it doesn't matter anyways hes in Toronto....

How is Phoenix Arizona closer to South Carolina? Chole Kitts plays for the South Carolina Gamecocks. Toronto is much closer lol
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Post#680 » by Clutch0z24 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:05 am

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He literally worked out with the team, and went to a team dinner lmao.

You don't do that if you dont want to be drafted by a team.


You are not understanding what im saying....I don't think HE himself didn't want to come here....I think HIM and his GF had a prefered destination over Toronto which if i had to guess it was the Suns....Since Phx is alot closer to where his GF plays ball....I think thats why they had that reaction....The reaction was obviously not happy/joyfull if you are being honest and subjective ....But it doesn't matter anyways hes in Toronto....

How is Phoenix Arizona closer to South Carolina? Chole Kitts plays for the South Carolina Gamecocks. Toronto is much closer lol


Customs, Going to diff country, Winter cold travel....In distance closer but it is alot more harder of a travel....Warmer city which they are used too....I don't think his GF would want to live in Toronto but living in Phx would prolly be more ideal...Again im speculating off his reaction...Because his reaction was not "Happy" Excited" if you are being honest with yourself.
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