Should Bryan Colangelo be Fired

[Ditchweed]

So you people want to get rid of BC ... OK, but let's get this to a better level, who do we get to replace him?

Please no stupid answers like: anybody can do better, me the poster, or GMs already taken and who aren't available like Presti or Kupchak or Riley ... who do we actually go after and that MLSE would accept?

Do we move Ed Stefanski up to that spot? Isiah Thomas (God forbid)? Who???

Mark Warkentien is available.

Finally, something tangible. I see that "He won the NBA Executive of the Year Award for the 2008–09 NBA season." That sounds good, very good. His credentials look too good to be not hired as a GM yet.

Would he leave the Knicks?

[Volcano]

And why do BC supporters always look for someone they think is the absolute worst GM in the league and compare BC to them??? Answer me that.

Because BC is in the class of the absolute worst GMs in the league.

Everytime someone wants to get rid of Jose..we should compare him to Derek Fisher..or if they hate Fields..what about Rasual Butler? See, our team is perfect...in comparison

[Komodo]

So you people want to get rid of BC ... OK, but let's get this to a better level, who do we get to replace him?

Please no stupid answers like: anybody can do better, me the poster, or GMs already taken and who aren't available like Presti or Kupchak or Riley ... who do we actually go after and that MLSE would accept?

Do we move Ed Stefanski up to that spot? Isiah Thomas (God forbid)? Who???

Mark Warkentien is available.

Finally, something tangible. I see that "He won the NBA Executive of the Year Award for the 2008–09 NBA season." That sounds good, very good. His credentials look too good to be not hired as a GM yet.

Would he leave the Knicks?

Troy Weaver is another.

[Too Late Crew]

So you people want to get rid of BC ... OK, but let's get this to a better level, who do we get to replace him?

Please no stupid answers like: anybody can do better, me the poster, or GMs already taken and who aren't available like Presti or Kupchak or Riley ... who do we actually go after and that MLSE would accept?

Do we move Ed Stefanski up to that spot? Isiah Thomas (God forbid)? Who???

We've been through this 100 times now. Heck there's even a thread maybe a year back where we listed a bunch of names.

Guys with progressive experience in other successful teams like Denis Lindsay from the Spurs or Gersson Rosas from Houston are often the type of guys who become the next wave of GMs. The idea that the polo is limited to Current or Past GMS is just wrong. Presti and Morley didn't come from that pool.

Just because the average fan doesn't know the name of the Assistant GM for the Spurs or a long time experienced VP of the Thunder Troy Weaver doesn't mean there are not Tons of guys with front office experience that would love to sit in the big chair and have as much or more needed experience as BC

Just for example:

Weaver held the position of director of player personnel for the Utah Jazz in 2007-08. He spent three seasons (2004-07) as head scout for the Jazz before his promotion to Director of Player Personnel.

Prior to joining the Jazz, Weaver was an assistant coach at Syracuse University for four seasons (2000-04)

He's been director of Player personnel, he's been a scout and even more important he COACHED something BC has never done. Heck he even played one season of college BBALL (albeit at a JC) how much basketball has BC ever PLAYED?

Maybe they are better maybe not but to imply there is a lack of qualified candidates that COULD do better out there just because joe fan out there can't name them is flat out wrong.

[Ditchweed]

Yes, Troy Weaver also looks good but evidently he was targeted by the Utah Jazz for their GM but he turned it down to stay with OKC.

[Ditchweed]

Guys with progressive experience in other successful teams like Denis Lindsay from the Spurs or Gersson Rosas from Houston are often the type of guys who become the next wave of GMs. The idea that the polo is limited to Current or Past GMS is just wrong. Presti and Morley didn't come from that pool.

Maybe they are better maybe not but to imply there is a lack of qualified candidates that COULD do better out there just because joe fan out there can't name them is flat out wrong.

I never said the pool is limited to current or past GMs nor did I also imply there is no qualified candidates out there. I would just like to hear of some that are out there and their qualifications and look at it in a more positive way rather than just hearing the same old, same old, ranting complaints that say nothing.

There is no doubt BC has a lot of basketball sense but it also seems that a change is necessary especially if the Raptors go nowhere this year. Something really has to be done to get us out of this continuing doldrum and an infusion of new thought and approach seems like the only way. Hopefully MLSE is listening and there won't be a 45 year drought like with the Leafs.

[grumpwalter]

So you people want to get rid of BC ... OK, but let's get this to a better level, who do we get to replace him?

Please no stupid answers like: anybody can do better, me the poster, or GMs already taken and who aren't available like Presti or Kupchak or Riley ... who do we actually go after and that MLSE would accept?

Do we move Ed Stefanski up to that spot? Isiah Thomas (God forbid)? Who???

Mark Warkentien is available.

Finally, something tangible. I see that "He won the NBA Executive of the Year Award for the 2008–09 NBA season." That sounds good, very good. His credentials look too good to be not hired as a GM yet.

Would he leave the Knicks?

if there was a GM position open, why not?

[raptorfan416]

does a bear sh*t in the woods ? then you know the answer.

[Marmoset]

I've generally been a defender of Bryan Colangelo. But if this season doesn't turn around soon, we're really at the point of having nothing to lose. If this season doesn't turn around, we'd be looking at another lottery season and quite possibly no lottery pick to show for it. Plus, we would have several questionable contracts on our hands. At that point, what is there to lose by giving someone else a chance?

I think Colangelo knows this too, and I agree with some others who think that Bargnani will be heading out soon in Colangelo's last-ditch attempt to save his position.

[kwamebargnani]

The minute BC gets fired, Vaginan will also be gone. So yeah, please fire BC.

[Scase]

So you people want to get rid of BC ... OK, but let's get this to a better level, who do we get to replace him?

Please no stupid answers like: anybody can do better, me the poster, or GMs already taken and who aren't available like Presti or Kupchak or Riley ... who do we actually go after and that MLSE would accept?

Do we move Ed Stefanski up to that spot? Isiah Thomas (God forbid)? Who???

I know what you're trying to say but honestly throwing money and the job at ANY assistant GM on a somewhat decent team would be an improvement over BC and his last 7 years of garbage.

The important thing is less who to replace him with and more clearing out the entire front office. They are all yes men for the same tool, this franchise needs to be rebooted entirely. Since we can't fire owners clearing out then entire FO is a good start.

Weaver turned down the Jazz? Look at how much we paid BC to fck up, even at half that rate he would be paid likely more than the Jazz would have. Money talks, give him a sweet enough deal and he's here, especially after the way OKC has been playing this year.

[C_Money]

The typical MLSE move would be to pick up his option for another year. So don't be suprised if it happens no matter how bad the team is.

[Clutch Carter]

With every loss, we move one step closer to purging the Raps of this incompetent goof.

[Scase]

The typical MLSE move would be to pick up his option for another year. So don't be suprised if it happens no matter how bad the team is.

Man don't even joke about that

[raps4589]

watching fields on the bench and watching the game ...... wat a waste of money

[raps4589]

all this team needs is a 3...its so messed up, we had an great game , even though we lost theres so much good to take from it, amir is overpaid by what 1 mill a year? and look at the good games he gives us, derozan looks like he is turning the corner and he is overpaid what a mill a year? we need to move bargs were better without him, when lowry comes back we have offence in lowry and derozan,

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Odds on BC pulling a job-saving trade out of his arse?

[kwamebargnani]

So you people want to get rid of BC ... OK, but let's get this to a better level, who do we get to replace him?

Please no stupid answers like: anybody can do better, me the poster, or GMs already taken and who aren't available like Presti or Kupchak or Riley ... who do we actually go after and that MLSE would accept?

Do we move Ed Stefanski up to that spot? Isiah Thomas (God forbid)? Who???

Let BC overpay few more scrubs. Sounds like a good idea. I'd even hire a rookie GM.

[Wo1verine]

Odds on BC pulling a job-saving trade out of his arse?

The thing is he over values his players, so i doubt he moves a Bargnani or a Calderon, he's such a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) that he probably thinks they're better than what they actually are! most likely why we haven't seen these two moved

[T-Ross the Boss]

The only thing I'd consider a job saving trade would be if BC pulls off trading:

Fields, Jose, Bargnani, and gets back pieces like Serge Ibaka and Rudy Gay both. Yeah, obviously not happening but anything short of that is not saving his ass.