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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#681 » by Bruin » Fri Nov 5, 2021 11:01 pm

The No. 1 pick in the 2021 NBA Draft is shooting 7-39 (17.9%) from the field in the three games he has played this season, marking the worst field goal percentage for a player with at least 30 attempts since the NBA/ABA merger in 1976.


https://nypost.com/2021/11/05/pistons-cade-cunningham-has-historic-shooting-struggles/amp/
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Post#682 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Nov 6, 2021 12:37 am

Barnes dominates so fast.
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Post#683 » by JShuttlesworth » Sat Nov 6, 2021 12:41 am

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The No. 1 pick in the 2021 NBA Draft is shooting 7-39 (17.9%) from the field in the three games he has played this season, marking the worst field goal percentage for a player with at least 30 attempts since the NBA/ABA merger in 1976.


https://nypost.com/2021/11/05/pistons-cade-cunningham-has-historic-shooting-struggles/amp/


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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#684 » by v1n5anity » Sat Nov 6, 2021 12:45 am

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The No. 1 pick in the 2021 NBA Draft is shooting 7-39 (17.9%) from the field in the three games he has played this season, marking the worst field goal percentage for a player with at least 30 attempts since the NBA/ABA merger in 1976.


https://nypost.com/2021/11/05/pistons-cade-cunningham-has-historic-shooting-struggles/amp/


"He's coming off an injury. Give him a couple of weeks." :lol:
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#685 » by Raps Militia » Sat Nov 6, 2021 1:03 am

We can built a Dynasty around Barnes.
This guy is a beast, he can do everything, seriously this guy will be a superstar, no doubt about that.

I don't care about the others, maybe we can give a chance to Trent and OG, but we need to focus 100% on Barnes, and I think that Nurse can do a great work on him.

He can be the Leonard who wants to marry our project forever.
I've never been so excited for one of our rookies.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#686 » by Bruin » Sat Nov 6, 2021 2:13 am

Scottie needs to start getting plays called for him. He basically gets most of his baskets unassisted and essentially nothing is being run for him
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Post#687 » by HumbleRen » Sat Nov 6, 2021 2:17 am

PrinceAli wrote:Scottie needs to start getting plays called for him. He basically gets most of his baskets unassisted and essentially nothing is being run for him


Use him in PnR's like the Bucks do with Giannis.

Force him to roll to the rim to score or kick out the ball to an open shooter or cutter. All those PnR's with Precious and Khem should be going towards Barnes.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#688 » by Bruin » Sat Nov 6, 2021 2:19 am

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PrinceAli wrote:Scottie needs to start getting plays called for him. He basically gets most of his baskets unassisted and essentially nothing is being run for him


Use him in PnR's like the Bucks do with Giannis.

Force him to roll to the rim to score or kick out the ball to an open shooter or cutter. All those PnR's with Precious and Khem should be going towards Barnes.

Yup. It just seems so pointless having him in the corner when he can’t shoot yet
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Post#689 » by HumbleRen » Sat Nov 6, 2021 2:20 am

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HumbleRen wrote:
PrinceAli wrote:Scottie needs to start getting plays called for him. He basically gets most of his baskets unassisted and essentially nothing is being run for him


Use him in PnR's like the Bucks do with Giannis.

Force him to roll to the rim to score or kick out the ball to an open shooter or cutter. All those PnR's with Precious and Khem should be going towards Barnes.

Yup. It just seems so pointless having him in the corner when he can’t shoot yet


It's annoying, mans being used 6'9 Patrick McCaw.
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Post#690 » by Basketball_Jones » Sat Nov 6, 2021 2:24 am

Welp, that was an awful game from him. First game back with a tough match up was expected though
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Post#691 » by Madhouse » Sat Nov 6, 2021 2:25 am

rough 2nd half.

Him standing in the corner for longer periods of time is complete bs though. That's Casey like.

Will be interesting to see how things work out when Siakam returns. Masai will get a long look this year and see how it fits together.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#692 » by Bruin » Sat Nov 6, 2021 2:27 am

Basketball_Jones wrote:Welp, that was an awful game from him. First game back with a tough match up was expected though

Disagree. He wasn’t awful at all. He wasn’t as great as we’re used to seeing from him, but that’s really only cause of his FG%

He played nice defense, rebounded well, passed well (4 assists, 1 turnover)

A lot of his misses were off of him trying to get the tap on which count as misses. Also he gets hacked several times in the paint without a call

That play where Malachi ended up tapping the ball out of the Cavs hands and Scottie got the dunk, Scottie got fouled like 4 times before right before it (that sequence alone counted for 2 missed FGs which in reality should’ve just been 2 FTA)

Overall a solid game from him, not disappointed at all
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#693 » by normgod6 » Sat Nov 6, 2021 3:15 am

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Basketball_Jones wrote:Welp, that was an awful game from him. First game back with a tough match up was expected though

Disagree. He wasn’t awful at all. He wasn’t as great as we’re used to seeing from him, but that’s really only cause of his FG%

He played nice defense, rebounded well, passed well (4 assists, 1 turnover)

A lot of his misses were off of him trying to get the tap on which count as misses. Also he gets hacked several times in the paint without a call

That play where Malachi ended up tapping the ball out of the Cavs hands and Scottie got the dunk, Scottie got fouled like 4 times before right before it (that sequence alone counted for 2 missed FGs which in reality should’ve just been 2 FTA)

Overall a solid game from him, not disappointed at all
yep its only awful if you are grading him on a curve. Hes been so good people are now expecting scottie to put up 20 points every night

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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#694 » by seanbig » Sat Nov 6, 2021 5:02 am

After the first few minutes when Mobley blocked him he didn’t seem as dominant as usual

Also his off ball defense still has a long way to go
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#695 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Sat Nov 6, 2021 6:09 am

that wrap on his thumb seemed to bother him.. thing looked dumb as hell.. gonna have bad games as a rook and 14 and 9 aint too bad for a rough game off an injury.
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Post#696 » by Chandan » Sat Nov 6, 2021 6:49 am

just let him spam that mid range until someone figure out how to stop it
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Post#697 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Nov 6, 2021 1:57 pm

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10giz wrote:
I definitely agree Mobley has been great but I'm just curious what you find fantastic.

He's made a lot of good defensive plays but I've seen all of them and literally the majority are terrible plays by the opposition or him just blocking someone under the rim using good verticality. It's great, but he's not going around creating these situations for the most part.

Most of these situations come to him and he's clearly being used as a hunter help defender.

Watch his defensive plays the moment the ball handler starts entering the arc his eyes focus primarily on the ball and he's prone to leaving his man wide open. Clearly this is by design but a disciplined team should punish that.


He's a rookie big who's got both real positive stats and analytics for his first 9 games in the NBA. Defensively his awareness/positioning and length gives him a real advantage over others. Just knows how to play and has been very impressive thus far. I think you're just knit picking at little things that don't really make any sense because you lost an argument and can't admit you're wrong.


Wrong about what? I agree he's been good, impressive, great IQ, great instincts. I have said multiple times he's an awesome prospect and I've been a fan of his.

I've lost no argument yet because not a single person has shown me any elite defence nor any generational elements of his game.

Positive stats and analytics don't make someone an all-time defender.

I don't care if a player gets 5 blocks a game how those blocks come and in what context are far more important to me.

Contesting Giannis on drives successfully is infinitely more impressive than players half your size taking dumb attempts at the rim that you can erase with minimal effort.


Yep. He’s been fantastic as i said.
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Post#698 » by Madhouse » Sat Nov 6, 2021 3:39 pm

He wasn't good, he wasn't awful either.

I think fans are more worried about his thumb than he, himself. He is fine. It did look the tape was bothering him some when he shot the ball though.

But mostly in this game in the 2nd half it was great defense by Mobley, refs missing calls and him missing a couple of shots he should have made.

If this is a terrible game for him, I'm looking forward what a great game for him looks like.

He looked in control, he didn't turn the ball over (even that 1 turnover was bs, he never had control of the ball), he found open team mates.

And I think what many fans forget, rookies are supposed to struggle. They aren't supposed to look absolutely awful like Suggs but they are supposed to be raw in NBA terms, take bad shots, turn the ball over.

They are also supposed to improve by mid season and in the 2nd half of the season, we see this all the time, last year it happened with Edwards and Ball.

There will be ups and downs but exciting times are coming.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread 

Post#699 » by Madhouse » Sat Nov 6, 2021 3:40 pm

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He's a rookie big who's got both real positive stats and analytics for his first 9 games in the NBA. Defensively his awareness/positioning and length gives him a real advantage over others. Just knows how to play and has been very impressive thus far. I think you're just knit picking at little things that don't really make any sense because you lost an argument and can't admit you're wrong.


Wrong about what? I agree he's been good, impressive, great IQ, great instincts. I have said multiple times he's an awesome prospect and I've been a fan of his.

I've lost no argument yet because not a single person has shown me any elite defence nor any generational elements of his game.

Positive stats and analytics don't make someone an all-time defender.

I don't care if a player gets 5 blocks a game how those blocks come and in what context are far more important to me.

Contesting Giannis on drives successfully is infinitely more impressive than players half your size taking dumb attempts at the rim that you can erase with minimal effort.


Yep. He’s been fantastic as i said.


Not sure why people downplay Mobley's ability. Maybe because there are some super annoying GB posters but not his fault. He is an elite talent as is Barnes.
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Post#700 » by Madhouse » Sat Nov 6, 2021 4:59 pm

Read on Twitter


Despite the poor shooting night, offensive rating didn't take a hit. It was more the defense that didn't look good. But it's going to come around, feel better about this than the other way around.

top rookies in BPM, WS/48, ORTG/DRTG

Barnes -0.7, .138, 112/106
Mobley -0.7, .111, 108/105
Wagner 0.0, .099, 115/112
Duarte -1.6, .057, 105/112
Suggs -9.0, -.102, 83/112
Jalen Green -5.3, -.021, 91/111
Cade Cunningham -11.8, -.211, 71/112

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