2023 Draft Discussion Part 4
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Yeah Coulibaly cannot play on ball and navigate the floor like Bufkin can. They are completely different players. You take Coulibaly as a project who you anticipate can fill a SF role down the line when he fills out. A lot needs to happen, he's still very raw. I rank him ahead of Cissoko and Rupert.
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Sam Vecenie recently did a mock on his pod
1. V Wembanyama
2. S Henderson
3. Amen Thompson
4. B Miller
5. C Whitmore
6. T Hendricks
7. J Walker
8. A Black
9. Ausar Thompson
10. C Wallace
11. G Dick
12. L Miller
13. K Bufkin
14. D Lively
15. GG Jackson
16. B Sensabaugh
17. K George
18. N Smith Jr
19. K Murray
20. J Hood-Schifino
21. S Cissoko
22. D Whitehead
23. J Hawkins
24. N Clowney
25. C Jones
26. B Klintman
27. J Howard
28. R Rupert
29. M Lewis
30. A. Jackson
1. V Wembanyama
2. S Henderson
3. Amen Thompson
4. B Miller
5. C Whitmore
6. T Hendricks
7. J Walker
8. A Black
9. Ausar Thompson
10. C Wallace
11. G Dick
12. L Miller
13. K Bufkin
14. D Lively
15. GG Jackson
16. B Sensabaugh
17. K George
18. N Smith Jr
19. K Murray
20. J Hood-Schifino
21. S Cissoko
22. D Whitehead
23. J Hawkins
24. N Clowney
25. C Jones
26. B Klintman
27. J Howard
28. R Rupert
29. M Lewis
30. A. Jackson
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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:grant101 wrote:I think I'm due for another D'moi Hodge appreciation post. If he gets a chance, he's a rotation player.
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Out of guys like him and Beekman, Flagler and some other names thrown around I like Hodge's NBA potential the most.
Flagler is old but shoots well and could be a good late 2nd round pick up to be a backup PG.
I think I posted once about Beekman here during the season when he was shooting over 40% from 3, which he tapered off. He's a good is a good defender and shoots average. He needs to put up like 15ppg in his senior year to be considered a late 1st pick next year. Is he possibly Avery Bradley?

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Rapsfan07 wrote:youreachiteach wrote:I like Coulibaly better than Bufkin or Cason Wallace...but coming out of the draft with Cason and Coulibaly would be perfect!
I doubt that's possible. I'd be surprised if Wallace falls out of the Top 10. He has an elite skill that guarantees him minutes, at least as bench back up to start.
Honestly the more I look into the draft, the happier I am with where we are. This draft is low on star level talent but is absolutely filled with guys who have starter potential or could wind up being valuable role players in the league over time. If we aren't able to get Wallace at 13, we can simply move down and grab some depth at 21 and 22 if we trade the pick with Brooklyn. Lots of great guards to choose from down there and you can grab Coulibaly as well.
Have we ever seen a guard with Cason's instincts on defense enough to use verticality with 2 handed volleyball block? Great body control not to reach and have a ref call fouls.
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Hendricks is the prototypical modern two way wing from a skills and size standpoint. He fits on any team, in any scheme. There's a lot of room for growth with him, especially offensively, but the key is that he's already a well above average shooter and defender for his age.
I only see one guy in this draft who has a good chance to be a legit #1 option on a contending team.
Who, Scoot? Wemby may top out at Anthony Davis with more guard skills. Do you think he could be Joel Embiid 2.0?

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Psubs wrote:Rapsfan07 wrote:youreachiteach wrote:I like Coulibaly better than Bufkin or Cason Wallace...but coming out of the draft with Cason and Coulibaly would be perfect!
I doubt that's possible. I'd be surprised if Wallace falls out of the Top 10. He has an elite skill that guarantees him minutes, at least as bench back up to start.
Honestly the more I look into the draft, the happier I am with where we are. This draft is low on star level talent but is absolutely filled with guys who have starter potential or could wind up being valuable role players in the league over time. If we aren't able to get Wallace at 13, we can simply move down and grab some depth at 21 and 22 if we trade the pick with Brooklyn. Lots of great guards to choose from down there and you can grab Coulibaly as well.
Have we ever seen a guard with Cason's instincts on defense enough to use verticality with 2 handed volleyball block? Great body control not to reach and have a ref call fouls.OakleyDokely wrote:
Hendricks is the prototypical modern two way wing from a skills and size standpoint. He fits on any team, in any scheme. There's a lot of room for growth with him, especially offensively, but the key is that he's already a well above average shooter and defender for his age.
I only see one guy in this draft who has a good chance to be a legit #1 option on a contending team.
Who, Scoot? Wemby may top out at Anthony Davis with more guard skills. Do you think he could be Joel Embiid 2.0?
Realistically, I only think Wemby has the potential to be a #1 guy.
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OakleyDokely wrote:Sam Vecenie recently did a mock on his pod
1. V Wembanyama
2. S Henderson
3. Amen Thompson
4. B Miller
5. C Whitmore
6. T Hendricks
7. J Walker
8. A Black
9. Ausar Thompson
10. C Wallace
11. G Dick
12. L Miller
13. K Bufkin
14. D Lively
15. GG Jackson
16. B Sensabaugh
17. K George
18. N Smith Jr
19. K Murray
20. J Hood-Schifino
21. S Cissoko
22. D Whitehead
23. J Hawkins
24. N Clowney
25. C Jones
26. B Klintman
27. J Howard
28. R Rupert
29. M Lewis
30. A. Jackson
Not going to hate on the Bufkin pick because he addresses a need as a driver.
Surprised to see Vecenie have Miller drafted by OKC at 12. Guess he likes the idea of Miller as a Poku type pick. I personally think OKC goes with more shooting upside.
I wonder if we will see more boards with Miller higher than GG and Brice?
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Dalek wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:Sam Vecenie recently did a mock on his pod
1. V Wembanyama
2. S Henderson
3. Amen Thompson
4. B Miller
5. C Whitmore
6. T Hendricks
7. J Walker
8. A Black
9. Ausar Thompson
10. C Wallace
11. G Dick
12. L Miller
13. K Bufkin
14. D Lively
15. GG Jackson
16. B Sensabaugh
17. K George
18. N Smith Jr
19. K Murray
20. J Hood-Schifino
21. S Cissoko
22. D Whitehead
23. J Hawkins
24. N Clowney
25. C Jones
26. B Klintman
27. J Howard
28. R Rupert
29. M Lewis
30. A. Jackson
Not going to hate on the Bufkin pick because he addresses a need as a driver.
Surprised to see Vecenie have Miller drafted by OKC at 12. Guess he likes the idea of Miller as a Poku type pick. I personally think OKC goes with more shooting upside.
I wonder if we will see more boards with Miller higher than GG and Brice?
I think Miller has lottery potential. He displayed nice growth from last year, he put up solid all-around numbers, including high efficiency scoring and he's 6'10 with a 7+ wingspan. He's a very intriguing player, especially if you believe he will able to knockdown 3s.
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Dalek wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:Sam Vecenie recently did a mock on his pod
1. V Wembanyama
2. S Henderson
3. Amen Thompson
4. B Miller
5. C Whitmore
6. T Hendricks
7. J Walker
8. A Black
9. Ausar Thompson
10. C Wallace
11. G Dick
12. L Miller
13. K Bufkin
14. D Lively
15. GG Jackson
16. B Sensabaugh
17. K George
18. N Smith Jr
19. K Murray
20. J Hood-Schifino
21. S Cissoko
22. D Whitehead
23. J Hawkins
24. N Clowney
25. C Jones
26. B Klintman
27. J Howard
28. R Rupert
29. M Lewis
30. A. Jackson
Not going to hate on the Bufkin pick because he addresses a need as a driver.
Surprised to see Vecenie have Miller drafted by OKC at 12. Guess he likes the idea of Miller as a Poku type pick. I personally think OKC goes with more shooting upside.
I wonder if we will see more boards with Miller higher than GG and Brice?
Feels like Thon Maker mocked in the 20's and Milwaukee reaching at #10. Though they can't regret it since the butterfly effect might have them not winning any championships. We can't regret drafting Poeltl over Sabonis either. Though maybe San Antonio takes Sabonis instead of Poeltl for Kawhi? Really Milwaukee should've drafted Sabonis.

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I became a Tristen Newton (UCONN) fan after watching the semi-final game against Miami. (Size, Pace of Play, Defense) He needs to improve his shooting to reach his ceiling of a back-up PG. Adding him to 905 roster is a no-brainer for me.
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HumbleRen wrote:?s=46&t=jjXxOoE4yWMd4fG6_-MQMQ
Dude been playing on a shoddy foot the entire year
College athletes must be cleared by doctors to play. The Duke medical staff CLEARLY gave him incorrect medical advice. Imagine he refused to play, he would be deemed difficult and not a team player.
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HumbleRen wrote:?s=46&t=jjXxOoE4yWMd4fG6_-MQMQ
Dude been playing on a shoddy foot the entire year
I put him on my draftboard at the bottom. I'd take a flier on him assuming the foot isn't a permanent issue.
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REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Yeah Coulibaly cannot play on ball and navigate the floor like Bufkin can. They are completely different players. You take Coulibaly as a project who you anticipate can fill a SF role down the line when he fills out. A lot needs to happen, he's still very raw. I rank him ahead of Cissoko and Rupert.
I'm a big Coulibaly fan, but I agree with this. I think the on ball potential is there for him, but it's going to take time for him to grow (in confidence, skill and physically). I'm torn between Bilal and Bufkin. I like to swing big, so I'd probably lean Bilal, but Bufkin is no slouch and has a lot of untapped potential of his own. Either way, I'd be happy
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HumbleRen wrote:?s=46&t=jjXxOoE4yWMd4fG6_-MQMQ
Dude been playing on a shoddy foot the entire year
He's gonna be a serious steal if he can get healthy foreal

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Syd-TK3 wrote:HumbleRen wrote:Dude been playing on a shoddy foot the entire year
He's gonna be a serious steal if he can get healthy foreal
Memphis dealt with JJJ always being hurt and they really need a legit SF. I can see them taking Whitehead at #25 and shouldn't get past Charlotte at #27.
Seems like an OG level player that's been mocked to go #5-10 in the pre-season and has fallen over the year due to injury.
Hardy also was once a pre-season top 5 pick and over the year in the GLeague he dropped because he didn't shoot the NBA 3 that well, but at least his FT% was excellent and Dariq's is fairly good at 79%. Hardy dropping to the late 30's, Dariq would be good value in the late 20's.

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Whitehead news makes evaluating him even harder now. I'm guessing no combine or workouts now.
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dozo wrote:
I became a Tristen Newton (UCONN) fan after watching the semi-final game against Miami. (Size, Pace of Play, Defense) He needs to improve his shooting to reach his ceiling of a back-up PG. Adding him to 905 roster is a no-brainer for me.
The 95% undrafted list right here. See a few legit NBA rotation players.
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ItsDanger wrote:dozo wrote:
I became a Tristen Newton (UCONN) fan after watching the semi-final game against Miami. (Size, Pace of Play, Defense) He needs to improve his shooting to reach his ceiling of a back-up PG. Adding him to 905 roster is a no-brainer for me.
The 95% undrafted list right here. See a few legit NBA rotation players.
I watched a clip and saw Robert Woodard. Remember when people thought he'd be a legit rotation player?
Well I thought Jay Huff would be a legit rotation player, but he wasn't good enough defensively like Walker Kessler.
