2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

[Rapsfan07]

Holland is an interesting prospect but I’d steer clear for a combination of reasons.

First, too much overlap with Scottie and his shot still needs work. I also don’t really trust the Ignite (although I think Buzelis will be good).

And I don’t trust Holland’s loyalty and think he’d wanna leave to Dallas the first chance he gets. Him and his family (especially his dad) are big Mavs fans. He also had nearly been committed to UCLA before switching his plan and committing to Texas for more money after using UCLA as a leverage play against Texas. Then when Beard was fired he decommitted and went Gleague (I don’t fault him for that though cause the coach was gone)

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Yeah I don't trust the Ignite program. A few of those guys have been creeping into the league lately and none of them have been that impressive. Scoot, Green, Hardy then there's Cissoko, Miller. It's looking rough for them so far so I wouldn't touch it.

[Kevin Willis]

While i agree he hasn't been good enough to warrant an auto 1st pick selections its his player build that is what makes him so loved by scouts....

Its the way the big man is trending in the NBA now days...Lots of teams are going to have these big men who can do alot of different things on the court and most teams want a big like that...

Celtics have Porzingis
Spurs have Wemby
Cavs have Mobley
76ers Have Embiid
Nuggets Have Joker
OKC Have Chet
T-wolves have KAT
Lakers have AD

Id say Sarr fits that player build most franchises look for in a Big man. Anytime a 7 footer who can play like a guard and block shots will be valued higher than a guard who puts up points.

Stay away from Sarrs at the first pick. First pick should at least be producing or their risk is too high. Sarrs would not come close to even Chet in his career, he doesn't have that skill level so yeah, this year's draft is not great. The question is he worth the risk if he falls to 6.

Sarr right now is like French Lively as a prospect.

That's real good. Lively went to the perfect team for him. Right now Lively looks like he was drafted too low.

[DreamTeam09]

Holland is an interesting prospect but I’d steer clear for a combination of reasons.

First, too much overlap with Scottie and his shot still needs work. I also don’t really trust the Ignite (although I think Buzelis will be good).

And I don’t trust Holland’s loyalty and think he’d wanna leave to Dallas the first chance he gets. Him and his family (especially his dad) are big Mavs fans. He also had nearly been committed to UCLA before switching his plan and committing to Texas for more money after using UCLA as a leverage play against Texas. Then when Beard was fired he decommitted and went Gleague (I don’t fault him for that though cause the coach was gone)

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Yeah I don't trust the Ignite program. A few of those guys have been creeping into the league lately and none of them have been that impressive. Scoot, Green, Hardy then there's Cissoko, Miller. It's looking rough for them so far so I wouldn't touch it.

You would still like/want all of those players in your program tho. Maybe not Cissoko, but the others are still worthy of drafting & their expectations. They’ve all just underperformed so far, but they’ve also shown flashes. I wouldn’t call the program a failure

[Syd-TK3]

Sarr will be fine, he's 100% benefiting from the Wemby hype but it's not a Porzingis Dragan Bender situation

[Kevin Willis]

While i agree he hasn't been good enough to warrant an auto 1st pick selections its his player build that is what makes him so loved by scouts....

Its the way the big man is trending in the NBA now days...Lots of teams are going to have these big men who can do alot of different things on the court and most teams want a big like that...

Celtics have Porzingis
Spurs have Wemby
Cavs have Mobley
76ers Have Embiid
Nuggets Have Joker
OKC Have Chet
T-wolves have KAT
Lakers have AD

Id say Sarr fits that player build most franchises look for in a Big man. Anytime a 7 footer who can play like a guard and block shots will be valued higher than a guard who puts up points.

Stay away from Sarrs at the first pick. First pick should at least be producing or their risk is too high. Sarrs would not come close to even Chet in his career, he doesn't have that skill level so yeah, this year's draft is not great. The question is he worth the risk if he falls to 6.

He’s averaging 19 and 9 (per 36) on 51 FG% (29.5 3P% on decent volume) against pros. I’d consider that producing. You have to remember he’s not even 19 yet. Won’t turn 20 until the very end of his rookie season in the league

You can criticize him for other things but production isn’t really where I’d criticize him

His efficiency on his jumper needs to improve but he’s currently a better shooter than Scottie was as a rookie so he can get where it needs to be. Definitely needs to improve on the FTs at least (61% right now)

That's still not No. 1 territory. VW's stats are considerably better. In total games at Perth he's actually 10 and 5. Josh Giddey 11/8/8. In total games Bilal 11/4. You can make a case that they're better prospects than Sarr and I would put them both around top 6. He's definitely not Barnes but Barnes was also a reach at our pick, let alone No. 1.

[Bruin]

Stay away from Sarrs at the first pick. First pick should at least be producing or their risk is too high. Sarrs would not come close to even Chet in his career, he doesn't have that skill level so yeah, this year's draft is not great. The question is he worth the risk if he falls to 6.

He’s averaging 19 and 9 (per 36) on 51 FG% (29.5 3P% on decent volume) against pros. I’d consider that producing. You have to remember he’s not even 19 yet. Won’t turn 20 until the very end of his rookie season in the league

You can criticize him for other things but production isn’t really where I’d criticize him

His efficiency on his jumper needs to improve but he’s currently a better shooter than Scottie was as a rookie so he can get where it needs to be. Definitely needs to improve on the FTs at least (61% right now)

That's still not No. 1 territory. VW's stats are considerably better. In total games at Perth he's actually 10 and 5. Josh Giddey 11/8/8. In total games Bilal 11/4. You can make a case that they're better prospects than Sarr and I would put them both around top 6. He's definitely not Barnes but Barnes was also a reach at our pick, let alone No. 1.

Nobody is gonna be Wemby level so not really worth comparing to him.

Giddey played 32 mpg to get those numbers on the 3rd worst team in NBL

Sarr is getting 17 mpg to get his numbers on the 2nd place team in NBL

And Bilal actually only averaged 6ppg, 3rpg in 20 mpg

It’s really not fair to compare the raw stats without considering minutes and the team quality

[ArthurVandelay]

Holland is an interesting prospect but I’d steer clear for a combination of reasons.

First, too much overlap with Scottie and his shot still needs work. I also don’t really trust the Ignite (although I think Buzelis will be good).

And I don’t trust Holland’s loyalty and think he’d wanna leave to Dallas the first chance he gets. Him and his family (especially his dad) are big Mavs fans. He also had nearly been committed to UCLA before switching his plan and committing to Texas for more money after using UCLA as a leverage play against Texas. Then when Beard was fired he decommitted and went Gleague (I don’t fault him for that though cause the coach was gone)

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Yeah I don't trust the Ignite program. A few of those guys have been creeping into the league lately and none of them have been that impressive. Scoot, Green, Hardy then there's Cissoko, Miller. It's looking rough for them so far so I wouldn't touch it.

Holland is growing on me. He is the prototypical wing in NBA with his height, wingspan, and athleticism. He’s very athletic.

He’s the only ignite player I like this year.

And where did all the cissoko fans go? He was getting a lot of love here last year. People wanted him at 13.

[BoyzNTheHood]

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And where did all the cissoko fans go? He was getting a lot of love here last year. People wanted him at 13.

I was the driver. Maybe he'll develop slower and if they don't draft a PG try Sidy instead of Sochan at PG.

[Kevin Willis]

He’s averaging 19 and 9 (per 36) on 51 FG% (29.5 3P% on decent volume) against pros. I’d consider that producing. You have to remember he’s not even 19 yet. Won’t turn 20 until the very end of his rookie season in the league

You can criticize him for other things but production isn’t really where I’d criticize him

His efficiency on his jumper needs to improve but he’s currently a better shooter than Scottie was as a rookie so he can get where it needs to be. Definitely needs to improve on the FTs at least (61% right now)

That's still not No. 1 territory. VW's stats are considerably better. In total games at Perth he's actually 10 and 5. Josh Giddey 11/8/8. In total games Bilal 11/4. You can make a case that they're better prospects than Sarr and I would put them both around top 6. He's definitely not Barnes but Barnes was also a reach at our pick, let alone No. 1.

Nobody is gonna be Wemby level so not really worth comparing to him.

Giddey played 32 mpg to get those numbers on the 3rd worst team in NBL

Sarr is getting 17 mpg to get his numbers on the 2nd place team in NBL

And Bilal actually only averaged 6ppg, 3rpg in 20 mpg

It’s really not fair to compare the raw stats without considering minutes and the team quality

I know you're trying to make the case of Sarr as a No. 1 pick but I disagree. Bilal's number are junior and parent team combined btw. Yes Wemby is a generational talent but I use him to show what No 1 looks like. Sarr is not even close to Brandon Miller. Or Pablo or Chet. Guys considered No. 1. Sarr plays in the NBL, I don't even think that's as good as the g-league. Let's do this hypothetical, how would Chet look in the NBL? Or Pablo?

Saying that, I don't know who I would have as No. 1. I haven't gone through enough players yet. I went through Sarr and thought he's really good but not regular No. 1 good. Maybe Bargnani No. 1 good - I will give you that.

[WuTang_CMB]

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He's looks like Brent Barry in Kirlenko's frame. I like when he close out, he gets down and spreads his wingspan and when they pick up the dribble he changes to contest. I seems like he has good BBIQ on both ends. He's like a more dynamic Gradey Dick. Maybe Dick is more of a SF and Furphy is more of a SG/SF.

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He's looks like Brent Barry in Kirlenko's frame. I like when he close out, he gets down and spreads his wingspan and when they pick up the dribble he changes to contest. I seems like he has good BBIQ on both ends. He's like a more dynamic Gradey Dick. Maybe Dick is more of a SF and Furphy is more of a SG/SF.

Both wing players although Furphy looks quicker overall. The more players that make noise in this draft the better it is

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He's looks like Brent Barry in Kirlenko's frame. I like when he close out, he gets down and spreads his wingspan and when they pick up the dribble he changes to contest. I seems like he has good BBIQ on both ends. He's like a more dynamic Gradey Dick. Maybe Dick is more of a SF and Furphy is more of a SG/SF.

Both wing players although Furphy looks quicker overall. The more players that make noise in this draft the better it is

There seems to be good size up and down this draft. I feel like a lot of players failed because they were under-sized and shooting over taller/faster players was hard. Also players aren't doing that well because they can't shoot the NBA 3 like Killian Hayes, the Thompson Twins, Keyonte George, Isaac Okoro, etc.

[Bruin]

That's still not No. 1 territory. VW's stats are considerably better. In total games at Perth he's actually 10 and 5. Josh Giddey 11/8/8. In total games Bilal 11/4. You can make a case that they're better prospects than Sarr and I would put them both around top 6. He's definitely not Barnes but Barnes was also a reach at our pick, let alone No. 1.

Nobody is gonna be Wemby level so not really worth comparing to him.

Giddey played 32 mpg to get those numbers on the 3rd worst team in NBL

Sarr is getting 17 mpg to get his numbers on the 2nd place team in NBL

And Bilal actually only averaged 6ppg, 3rpg in 20 mpg

It’s really not fair to compare the raw stats without considering minutes and the team quality

I know you're trying to make the case of Sarr as a No. 1 pick but I disagree. Bilal's number are junior and parent team combined btw. Yes Wemby is a generational talent but I use him to show what No 1 looks like. Sarr is not even close to Brandon Miller. Or Pablo or Chet. Guys considered No. 1. Sarr plays in the NBL, I don't even think that's as good as the g-league. Let's do this hypothetical, how would Chet look in the NBL? Or Pablo?

Saying that, I don't know who I would have as No. 1. I haven't gone through enough players yet. I went through Sarr and thought he's really good but not regular No. 1 good. Maybe Bargnani No. 1 good - I will give you that.

I know and that’s exactly the point. Sure he was able to score against u21 competition but when he played against pros he didn’t do much. On the other hand Sarr is producing against pros

I’m not certain I’d take Sarr #1 but I do think he is a legit candidate for it in this draft based just on the production. Whether he’s worthy of going #1 is based on the potential he has and the hope for what he could develop into

Personally I’d take Sarr, Williams, or Risacher #1 as of now with no real preference between the 3. I think all 3 will be good picks and I’d be happy if we manage to land one of them

[RoteSchroder]

There seems to be good size up and down this draft. I feel like a lot of players failed because they were under-sized and shooting over taller/faster players was hard. Also players aren't doing that well because they can't shoot the NBA 3 like Killian Hayes, the Thompson Twins, Keyonte George, Isaac Okoro, etc.

Is it just me, or is this draft is a LOT better than 2023. A lot of players drafted in 2023 would be going a lot lower in this draft.

[Bruin]

That last shot though…he’s tough. If he can consistently hit that shot he’s gonna be a star

[ATLTimekeeper]

That's still not No. 1 territory. VW's stats are considerably better. In total games at Perth he's actually 10 and 5. Josh Giddey 11/8/8. In total games Bilal 11/4. You can make a case that they're better prospects than Sarr and I would put them both around top 6. He's definitely not Barnes but Barnes was also a reach at our pick, let alone No. 1.

Nobody is gonna be Wemby level so not really worth comparing to him.

Giddey played 32 mpg to get those numbers on the 3rd worst team in NBL

Sarr is getting 17 mpg to get his numbers on the 2nd place team in NBL

And Bilal actually only averaged 6ppg, 3rpg in 20 mpg

It’s really not fair to compare the raw stats without considering minutes and the team quality

I know you're trying to make the case of Sarr as a No. 1 pick but I disagree. Bilal's number are junior and parent team combined btw. Yes Wemby is a generational talent but I use him to show what No 1 looks like. Sarr is not even close to Brandon Miller. Or Pablo or Chet. Guys considered No. 1. Sarr plays in the NBL, I don't even think that's as good as the g-league. Let's do this hypothetical, how would Chet look in the NBL? Or Pablo?

Saying that, I don't know who I would have as No. 1. I haven't gone through enough players yet. I went through Sarr and thought he's really good but not regular No. 1 good. Maybe Bargnani No. 1 good - I will give you that.

The NBL is much better than the Gleague. No one plays any defense in the Gleague outside of stat hunting. NBL is grown men playing for wins.

My opinion is if your numbers stink in the Gleague as a prospect that is notable, because we're seeing more evidence that these prospects aren't developing well and are overvalued in the draft coming into the league.

I think Chet's body would have snapped in the NBL. It's physically more rugged than even today's NBA.

[CoinTossRoss31]

Pick Tracking:

6 (TOR)
18 (IND)
28 (OKC)
31 (DET)

[Kevin Willis]

Nobody is gonna be Wemby level so not really worth comparing to him.

Giddey played 32 mpg to get those numbers on the 3rd worst team in NBL

Sarr is getting 17 mpg to get his numbers on the 2nd place team in NBL

And Bilal actually only averaged 6ppg, 3rpg in 20 mpg

It’s really not fair to compare the raw stats without considering minutes and the team quality

I know you're trying to make the case of Sarr as a No. 1 pick but I disagree. Bilal's number are junior and parent team combined btw. Yes Wemby is a generational talent but I use him to show what No 1 looks like. Sarr is not even close to Brandon Miller. Or Pablo or Chet. Guys considered No. 1. Sarr plays in the NBL, I don't even think that's as good as the g-league. Let's do this hypothetical, how would Chet look in the NBL? Or Pablo?

Saying that, I don't know who I would have as No. 1. I haven't gone through enough players yet. I went through Sarr and thought he's really good but not regular No. 1 good. Maybe Bargnani No. 1 good - I will give you that.

The NBL is much better than the Gleague. No one plays any defense in the Gleague outside of stat hunting. NBL is grown men playing for wins.

My opinion is if your numbers stink in the Gleague as a prospect that is notable, because we're seeing more evidence that these prospects aren't developing well and are overvalued in the draft coming into the league.

I think Chet's body would have snapped in the NBL. It's physically more rugged than even today's NBA.

Valid points. I look at as the G-League contains a bunch of players that used to be stars in the NCAA and former NBA players that are past their prime but looking for a second / third / fourth etc. chance. Like when 905 won the championship you had Pascal, FVV, Poeltl (I think) playing on the team which are two future all-stars. However you're right they're selfish and play no D and definitely not as passionate. They've probably played each other, it would be interesting to see who won.