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HangTime wrote:Grindhouse wrote:scottie barnes/ shead
gradey dick/ ingram
bradon ingram/ RJ / battle
derik queen/ scottie
yak poetlt/ queen
draft derik queen please and thank you
the players I didnt mention have no future here
Ja'Kobe is probably the 3rd most important/intriguing player we have (won't be used that way for a while), behind Scottie and Ingram.
Grindhouse wrote:HangTime wrote:Grindhouse wrote:scottie barnes/ shead
gradey dick/ ingram
bradon ingram/ RJ / battle
derik queen/ scottie
yak poetlt/ queen
draft derik queen please and thank you
the players I didnt mention have no future here
Ja'Kobe is probably the 3rd most important/intriguing player we have (won't be used that way for a while), behind Scottie and Ingram.
well for him, you play through his rookie contact and see what happens
Thaddy wrote:Grindhouse wrote:HangTime wrote:
Ja'Kobe is probably the 3rd most important/intriguing player we have (won't be used that way for a while), behind Scottie and Ingram.
well for him, you play through his rookie contact and see what happens
Walter has the most potential between him, Dick and Agbaji. He's the highest potential player we have among our rookie contracts. I hope he gets a lot more minutes going forward.
Some of his hidden talents are ball handling, creation, getting to the line, and POA defense. He has a huge wingspan that should be a factor in his defensive development. He's going to be a very good two way shooting guard for us.
I want to see him get more opportunity creating with the ball. I would put him in the starting line up and hold out IQ and also test Barrett at the 1.
Poeltl / Boucher / Robinson
Barnes / Mogbo
Walter / Agbaji
Dick / Agbaji
Barrett / Shead
We should finish the season with the above. I think Barrett has potential at the 1 if we spam pick and rolls with him and Barnes.
Next season I would like to see this, although it's unlikely.
Poeltl (28)/ Boucher (20)/ Wolf (37th)
Barnes (34)/ Mogbo (14)
Ingram (28) / Dick (20) / Agbaji
Walter (20)/ Barrett (24)/ Johnson (5th)
IQ (32)/ Barrett (10) / Shead (6)
Play Barnes, IQ and RJ heavily, load manage Ingram and give the bench minutes to develop. Then sell high on Agbaji and Dick for better big men depth.
Psubs wrote:Would the Lakers trade Jared Vanderbilt and cash for Ochai Agbaji? With the savings the Lakers use the tax payer MLE on Luke Kornet.
Johnston wrote:I wonder if we miss on Flagg, Ace, Harper or Edgecomb if the Spurs would be interested in consolidating their draft picks? 5 /43 for 11/13?
Psubs wrote:Would the Lakers trade Jared Vanderbilt and cash for Ochai Agbaji? With the savings the Lakers use the tax payer MLE on Luke Kornet.
Ell Curry wrote:Psubs wrote:Would the Lakers trade Jared Vanderbilt and cash for Ochai Agbaji? With the savings the Lakers use the tax payer MLE on Luke Kornet.
They would do that in a second.
Agbaji will be cheaper next year than maybe on a similar deal or a couple million more, and he can actually shoot unlike Vanderbilt.
No idea why we would do that. Also we'd be over the tax now after the Ingram deal.
Psubs wrote:Ell Curry wrote:Psubs wrote:Would the Lakers trade Jared Vanderbilt and cash for Ochai Agbaji? With the savings the Lakers use the tax payer MLE on Luke Kornet.
They would do that in a second.
Agbaji will be cheaper next year than maybe on a similar deal or a couple million more, and he can actually shoot unlike Vanderbilt.
No idea why we would do that. Also we'd be over the tax now after the Ingram deal.
I guess if we draft Fleming, don't need the positional depth at forward. Vanderbilt is analytically better than Ochai and 6'9.
Maybe a draft night trade of Ochai for Vanderbilt and #53 (to draft Kalkbrenner or an Ivisic).
Ell Curry wrote:Psubs wrote:Ell Curry wrote:
They would do that in a second.
Agbaji will be cheaper next year than maybe on a similar deal or a couple million more, and he can actually shoot unlike Vanderbilt.
No idea why we would do that. Also we'd be over the tax now after the Ingram deal.
I guess if we draft Fleming, don't need the positional depth at forward. Vanderbilt is analytically better than Ochai and 6'9.
Maybe a draft night trade of Ochai for Vanderbilt and #53 (to draft Kalkbrenner or an Ivisic).
I don't think we can afford to add a non-shooting center to this team unless they are a star, I don't think. Only Denver has taken less 3s than us and they're obviously a special case with Jokic creating tons of great shots inside for himself and teammates. Quickley being healthy will help, but Ingram's volume isn't high (and our wings aren't super low so it's not gonna change much) so best case we're probably still slightly below average.
Also think Mogbo should be able to be similar to Vanderbilt minus a couple of boards, worse finishing inside but better 3pt shooting (seems crazy but Mogbo is 6/15 this little stretch he's been up and Vanderbilt can't shoot) and plus a couple assists and with better man to man defence, and 10M a year cheaper.
If we do draft a 2, 3 or 4, then yeah I could see a trade of one of RJ/Agbaji/Dick/Walter for a C, PG or a 1st, yeah. We have 20 minutes easy to hand a young PG or C, but we might kill Walter or Dick's value and development or Agbaji's value and last bit of development if we end up cutting their minutes to give them to Edgecombe or Bailey or a lower lottery wing.
It's a tough call. The front office really seems to believe in Grady, presumably the bet here is that he's still got some physical maturation that will help him a lot. And Walter looks really promising. But Agbaji is the best on D at this point (Walter might reach his level in a year or 2 though) and provides some energy in transition and a bit of strength we don't have enough of at the 2 or 3 spots. We could just try to keep all 3, draft a PG this year and a center in 2026, though, or vice-versa:
Poeltl-2025/2026-Mogbo
Barnes-Agbaji-Mogbo
Ingram-Dick-Agbaji
RJ-Walter
Quickley-2025/26-Shead
and if you figure one guy is generally out injured and you need a 3rd PG, it's what the deeper Memphis/Indy type teams look like. Has a real "good regular season, bad playoff team vibe" though.
Grindhouse wrote:the goal of a offensive set is to make every position a threat having a 3 pt center is a bonus not a must, your center has to fulfill the center role first before expanding. This is the issue with small ball teams.
derik queen fulfills this role, my question is are we building a team! or collecting talent?
gradey and ingram 2/3 combination is what you want especially if you can give ingram that gradey package. The bulk of your offense should start from here.
once people understand the pick and role is a means of attracting gravity like the offball screens are a means of gravity you will see there is more than one way to score or create advantages. with all this in mind we need a phone booth scorer which is queen in this draft and he happens to fill a position of need.
Psubs wrote:Grindhouse wrote:the goal of a offensive set is to make every position a threat having a 3 pt center is a bonus not a must, your center has to fulfill the center role first before expanding. This is the issue with small ball teams.
derik queen fulfills this role, my question is are we building a team! or collecting talent?
gradey and ingram 2/3 combination is what you want especially if you can give ingram that gradey package. The bulk of your offense should start from here.
once people understand the pick and role is a means of attracting gravity like the offball screens are a means of gravity you will see there is more than one way to score or create advantages. with all this in mind we need a phone booth scorer which is queen in this draft and he happens to fill a position of need.
I would say building a team while collecting assets. Already cashed in Brown, Olynyk and Indy 2026 1st pick for Brandon Ingram. I can see another trade in the summer to consolidate more assets.
I want to obtain a mid to late 1st to draft Alex Condon, who should at least hit the 3 at league average and do all the things that Poeltl does but is quicker.
Fleming would be a forward that can hit the 3, get steals and blocks, finish with power and play some smallball C with his 7'5 wingspan.
Grindhouse wrote:Psubs wrote:Grindhouse wrote:the goal of a offensive set is to make every position a threat having a 3 pt center is a bonus not a must, your center has to fulfill the center role first before expanding. This is the issue with small ball teams.
derik queen fulfills this role, my question is are we building a team! or collecting talent?
gradey and ingram 2/3 combination is what you want especially if you can give ingram that gradey package. The bulk of your offense should start from here.
once people understand the pick and role is a means of attracting gravity like the offball screens are a means of gravity you will see there is more than one way to score or create advantages. with all this in mind we need a phone booth scorer which is queen in this draft and he happens to fill a position of need.
I would say building a team while collecting assets. Already cashed in Brown, Olynyk and Indy 2026 1st pick for Brandon Ingram. I can see another trade in the summer to consolidate more assets.
I want to obtain a mid to late 1st to draft Alex Condon, who should at least hit the 3 at league average and do all the things that Poeltl does but is quicker.
Fleming would be a forward that can hit the 3, get steals and blocks, finish with power and play some smallball C with his 7'5 wingspan.
alex condon is going to struggle in the nba he needs alot more strength he has no explosion maybe if he was 7’2.
fleming cant hit water if he fell out of a boat hard pass
Grindhouse wrote:Psubs wrote:Grindhouse wrote:the goal of a offensive set is to make every position a threat having a 3 pt center is a bonus not a must, your center has to fulfill the center role first before expanding. This is the issue with small ball teams.
derik queen fulfills this role, my question is are we building a team! or collecting talent?
gradey and ingram 2/3 combination is what you want especially if you can give ingram that gradey package. The bulk of your offense should start from here.
once people understand the pick and role is a means of attracting gravity like the offball screens are a means of gravity you will see there is more than one way to score or create advantages. with all this in mind we need a phone booth scorer which is queen in this draft and he happens to fill a position of need.
I would say building a team while collecting assets. Already cashed in Brown, Olynyk and Indy 2026 1st pick for Brandon Ingram. I can see another trade in the summer to consolidate more assets.
I want to obtain a mid to late 1st to draft Alex Condon, who should at least hit the 3 at league average and do all the things that Poeltl does but is quicker.
Fleming would be a forward that can hit the 3, get steals and blocks, finish with power and play some smallball C with his 7'5 wingspan.
alex condon is going to struggle in the nba he needs alot more strength he has no explosion maybe if he was 7’2.
fleming cant hit water if he fell out of a boat hard pass
Kingsway_fan wrote:Is Naz Reid someone we could use / trade for / sign?
Kingsway_fan wrote:Is Naz Reid someone we could use / trade for / sign?