2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

[Kevin Willis]

Nobody is gonna be Wemby level so not really worth comparing to him.

Giddey played 32 mpg to get those numbers on the 3rd worst team in NBL

Sarr is getting 17 mpg to get his numbers on the 2nd place team in NBL

And Bilal actually only averaged 6ppg, 3rpg in 20 mpg

It’s really not fair to compare the raw stats without considering minutes and the team quality

I know you're trying to make the case of Sarr as a No. 1 pick but I disagree. Bilal's number are junior and parent team combined btw. Yes Wemby is a generational talent but I use him to show what No 1 looks like. Sarr is not even close to Brandon Miller. Or Pablo or Chet. Guys considered No. 1. Sarr plays in the NBL, I don't even think that's as good as the g-league. Let's do this hypothetical, how would Chet look in the NBL? Or Pablo?

Saying that, I don't know who I would have as No. 1. I haven't gone through enough players yet. I went through Sarr and thought he's really good but not regular No. 1 good. Maybe Bargnani No. 1 good - I will give you that.

I know and that’s exactly the point. Sure he was able to score against u21 competition but when he played against pros he didn’t do much. On the other hand Sarr is producing against pros

I’m not certain I’d take Sarr #1 but I do think he is a legit candidate for it in this draft based just on the production. Whether he’s worthy of going #1 is based on the potential he has and the hope for what he could develop into

Personally I’d take Sarr, Williams, or Risacher #1 as of now with no real preference between the 3. I think all 3 will be good picks and I’d be happy if we manage to land one of them

I think one of those 3 would be available for us and would love to take any one of them at 6. Sarr would be nice on this team.

[hyper316]

Pick Tracking:

6 (TOR)
18 (IND)
28 (OKC)
31 (DET)

consolidate 6 + 18 + 31 and swap with a top 3 if possible

[whitehops]

Pick Tracking:

6 (TOR)
18 (IND)
28 (OKC)
31 (DET)

consolidate 6 + 18 + 31 and swap with a top 3 if possible

ironically the raps have a great group of picks for this draft. there's no true high-end prospect to warrant moving up to grab but there is the usual depth that you would find in the late lottery onwards. honestly conveying their top pick to the spurs this year and then maybe using some combo of their 18,28 and 31 picks to trade up and get 2 players in the 15-25 range would be solid imo.

they might not even have to do that, this past draft the pistons traded the 31st pick and a future 2nd to move up to the 25th spot so the raps could feasibly have the 18th, 25th and 28th picks with their 1st rounders going forward.

[hyper316]

Pick Tracking:

6 (TOR)
18 (IND)
28 (OKC)
31 (DET)

consolidate 6 + 18 + 31 and swap with a top 3 if possible

ironically the raps have a great group of picks for this draft. there's no true high-end prospect to warrant moving up to grab but there is the usual depth that you would find in the late lottery onwards. honestly conveying their top pick to the spurs this year and then maybe using some combo of their 18,28 and 31 picks to trade up and get 2 players in the 15-25 range would be solid imo.

they might not even have to do that, this past draft the pistons traded the 31st pick and a future 2nd to move up to the 25th spot so the raps could feasibly have the 18th, 25th and 28th picks with their 1st rounders going forward.

or masai can do what OKC did and trade 2024 pick for a 2025 pick (sengun, didn't work out so well for okc tho)

[YogurtProducer]

Pick Tracking:

6 (TOR)
18 (IND)
28 (OKC)
31 (DET)

consolidate 6 + 18 + 31 and swap with a top 3 if possible

Waaaaay to much to move up 3-4 spots.

[Kevin Willis]

There seems to be good size up and down this draft. I feel like a lot of players failed because they were under-sized and shooting over taller/faster players was hard. Also players aren't doing that well because they can't shoot the NBA 3 like Killian Hayes, the Thompson Twins, Keyonte George, Isaac Okoro, etc.

Is it just me, or is this draft is a LOT better than 2023. A lot of players drafted in 2023 would be going a lot lower in this draft.

I wrote a long reply and my computer decided to reboot. So my TL;DR;

No - last years group had higher tiers than this year. This year has more parity so it seems like it's better. Comparable lottery guys like Cason Wallace and Kanaan in terms of position and draft order the edge would go to Cason Wallace.

This years draft is performing very well in the NBA. Hawkins - 14. Jaime - 18. Bradin - 19. Cam - 20. Kris - 23. Smith - 27. Strawther - 29. Rayan Rupert - 43. Trayce Jackson - 59!! All contributing to different degrees. 2024 will not be the same but with multiple picks we should get someone in the rotation.

[OakleyDokely]

This draft looks pretty deep in terms of potential rotation players and starters. What it lacks is obvious star power at the top. There could be some eventual stars that come from this class, but they could come from anywhere in the draft. Some teams might hit big with mid-late 1sts or even 2nds.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Valid points. I look at as the G-League contains a bunch of players that used to be stars in the NCAA and former NBA players that are past their prime but looking for a second / third / fourth etc. chance. Like when 905 won the championship you had Pascal, FVV, Poeltl (I think) playing on the team which are two future all-stars. However you're right they're selfish and play no D and definitely not as passionate. They've probably played each other, it would be interesting to see who won.

Poeltl actually only played 2 games. I don't see it as much better than summer league.

[Kevin Willis]

Valid points. I look at as the G-League contains a bunch of players that used to be stars in the NCAA and former NBA players that are past their prime but looking for a second / third / fourth etc. chance. Like when 905 won the championship you had Pascal, FVV, Poeltl (I think) playing on the team which are two future all-stars. However you're right they're selfish and play no D and definitely not as passionate. They've probably played each other, it would be interesting to see who won.

Poeltl actually only played 2 games. I don't see it as much better than summer league.

ATL I had to go digging based off your point. We can agree to disagree on it.

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[ATLTimekeeper]

I would view that as an exhibition game, which is what summer league essentially is, and what the Gleague is a glorified version of.

[Bruin]

Love this kid’s potential. Flashes of some special talent there. And his frame looks like he can easily put on a bit more weight

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[ItsDanger]

Salaun doesn't use offhand much at all.

[WuTang_CMB]

LNB pro a producing guys. Raps would be happy if Salaun fell to Indiana's pick

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

The 2024 draft is an absolute dumpster fire compared to 2025 and anyone who remotely cares about the success of the franchise should be praying we land outside of the top 6 this year so that we retain our 2025 1st round selection as there are multiple players with clear franchise-changing ceilings. I would go as far as retaining GTJ, Bruce Brown and Boucher so as to maximize our depth for the remainder of the season and our chances of winning the greatest amount of games even if it means losing GTJ for nothing and getting a lesser return on the other two during their final seasons under contract, just so that we can be in better position to retain our 2025 selection.

Masai's wet dream African prospect is within reach if that happens and I would actually endorse the selection as I believe Khaman Maluach will end up going 1-2 with Cooper Flagg next year. I also think that if Maluach commits to Duke they win the national title in 2025. He is an extraordinary young big who has good mental makeup with elite size and athleticism, has a chance to be equally great as a power and finesse player as well as a transition and halfcourt player and who comes equipped with a 3 point shot. His footwork looks great and he runs the floor like a gazelle and can handle the ball at high speeds while bullying people inside and on the glass and he has touch around the rim. Almost insignificantly small sample sizes but between last year and this year he shot 37% from downtown and 76% from the stripe.

He's listed at 7'2 231 but he's not even 17.5 years old yet.

Meanwhile a guy like Ja'Kobe Walter is mocked top 5 yet V.J. Edgecombe looks like a vastly superior prospect. Walter is shooting 35.7% (25% from 3) in 5 games of conference play so far. Interestingly enough Edgecombe committed to Baylor and I'm confident he is going to outperform Walter in terms of stocks, base FG%, AST/TO and FTR. Maybe even in other areas if he starts to harness his superior athleticism and apply it between now and the end of his freshman college season.

As far as the other areas of the draft where the Raptors have selections I would probably retain the Pacers' 1st and the Pistons 2nd and move the other pick. It's still too early to figure out where the Pacers' pick will land but with the Pistons' I'd look at some older guys you can lock up to favorable 4 year deals like K.J. Simpson since the freshman/soph class at that point is really bad.

[MainEvent]

Masai already knows

Chomche is a 6-foot-11 big man that has been one of the most unique draft risers we have had in recent memory. The Cameroon native is the youngest prospect in the draft and is absolutely oozing with potential. Chomche really saw his stock skyrocket up at the G League Showcase where he looked super impressive in front of NBA scouts. He showcased his defensive versatility, explosiveness and offensive flashes at this event.

At 6-foot-11, he shoots 38% from behind the arc while also averaging 2.7 blocks per game showcasing he has legit 3-and-D upside. It’s unknown if he has legit interest in entering the 2024 NBA Draft or not, but he has been gaining a ton of steam recently and would likely be drafted in this year’s draft if elects to enter.

https://www.si.com/nba/draft/newsfeed/2024-nba-draft-jared-mccain-ulrich-chomche-and-pj-hall-among-stock-risers

Chomche isnt just athletic. He has good footwork and skill. Gotta be on our list

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This kid is interesting, just turned 18 Dec 30th. I need to see more, could be in play with our late 1st/Detroit pick.
Seems like there are some good prospects at center in this draft

[Psubs]

The 2024 draft is an absolute dumpster fire compared to 2025 and anyone who remotely cares about the success of the franchise should be praying we land outside of the top 6 this year so that we retain our 2025 1st round selection as there are multiple players with clear franchise-changing ceilings. I would go as far as retaining GTJ, Bruce Brown and Boucher so as to maximize our depth for the remainder of the season and our chances of winning the greatest amount of games even if it means losing GTJ for nothing and getting a lesser return on the other two during their final seasons under contract, just so that we can be in better position to retain our 2025 selection.

Masai's wet dream African prospect is within reach if that happens and I would actually endorse the selection as I believe Khaman Maluach will end up going 1-2 with Cooper Flagg next year. I also think that if Maluach commits to Duke they win the national title in 2025. He is an extraordinary young big who has good mental makeup with elite size and athleticism, has a chance to be equally great as a power and finesse player as well as a transition and halfcourt player and who comes equipped with a 3 point shot. His footwork looks great and he runs the floor like a gazelle and can handle the ball at high speeds while bullying people inside and on the glass and he has touch around the rim. Almost insignificantly small sample sizes but between last year and this year he shot 37% from downtown and 76% from the stripe.

He's listed at 7'2 231 but he's not even 17.5 years old yet.

Meanwhile a guy like Ja'Kobe Walter is mocked top 5 yet V.J. Edgecombe looks like a vastly superior prospect. Walter is shooting 35.7% (25% from 3) in 5 games of conference play so far. Interestingly enough Edgecombe committed to Baylor and I'm confident he is going to outperform Walter in terms of stocks, base FG%, AST/TO and FTR. Maybe even in other areas if he starts to harness his superior athleticism and apply it between now and the end of his freshman college season.

As far as the other areas of the draft where the Raptors have selections I would probably retain the Pacers' 1st and the Pistons 2nd and move the other pick. It's still too early to figure out where the Pacers' pick will land but with the Pistons' I'd look at some older guys you can lock up to favorable 4 year deals like K.J. Simpson since the freshman/soph class at that point is really bad.

Ja'Kobe Walters' stock should be like Keyonte George where he dropped to around the 7-12 range and will eventually be drafted 10-15.

[C_Money]

Hard pass on anybody who struggles offensively. We don’t need any more of that sh*t and the bust potential with those players is high.

[DG88]

If we keep our pick it's Cody Williams or Tidjane Salaun as my preferred prospects.

[JShuttlesworth]

I really do think Cody Williams would be a great fit on our team -- He has to be a strong consideration if we keep our pick

[billy_hoyle]

The 2024 draft is an absolute dumpster fire compared to 2025 and anyone who remotely cares about the success of the franchise should be praying we land outside of the top 6 this year so that we retain our 2025 1st round selection as there are multiple players with clear franchise-changing ceilings. I would go as far as retaining GTJ, Bruce Brown and Boucher so as to maximize our depth for the remainder of the season and our chances of winning the greatest amount of games even if it means losing GTJ for nothing and getting a lesser return on the other two during their final seasons under contract, just so that we can be in better position to retain our 2025 selection.

Masai's wet dream African prospect is within reach if that happens and I would actually endorse the selection as I believe Khaman Maluach will end up going 1-2 with Cooper Flagg next year. I also think that if Maluach commits to Duke they win the national title in 2025. He is an extraordinary young big who has good mental makeup with elite size and athleticism, has a chance to be equally great as a power and finesse player as well as a transition and halfcourt player and who comes equipped with a 3 point shot. His footwork looks great and he runs the floor like a gazelle and can handle the ball at high speeds while bullying people inside and on the glass and he has touch around the rim. Almost insignificantly small sample sizes but between last year and this year he shot 37% from downtown and 76% from the stripe.

He's listed at 7'2 231 but he's not even 17.5 years old yet.

Meanwhile a guy like Ja'Kobe Walter is mocked top 5 yet V.J. Edgecombe looks like a vastly superior prospect. Walter is shooting 35.7% (25% from 3) in 5 games of conference play so far. Interestingly enough Edgecombe committed to Baylor and I'm confident he is going to outperform Walter in terms of stocks, base FG%, AST/TO and FTR. Maybe even in other areas if he starts to harness his superior athleticism and apply it between now and the end of his freshman college season.

As far as the other areas of the draft where the Raptors have selections I would probably retain the Pacers' 1st and the Pistons 2nd and move the other pick. It's still too early to figure out where the Pacers' pick will land but with the Pistons' I'd look at some older guys you can lock up to favorable 4 year deals like K.J. Simpson since the freshman/soph class at that point is really bad.

You don't seem to understand how draft protection works.

If we keep the pick this year because we ended up top 6, that doesn't mean we lose top 6 protection next year. This isn't Mario Kart where you lose the shield after taking a shell.

We keep this year, and keep next year if we are lucky enough to win a top 2 spot in the lottery. If Flagg and Khaman are as advertised, we will STILL be able to draft them.