Pascal Siakam Trade Speculation Thread

[Tor_Raps]

I am a bit surprised he and his agent arent working with the Raps on a trade to a team he would resign with in the summer. Get his cake and eat it too.

Is he afraid other teams wouldnt value him like Toronto? Masai is making it clear the team is ready to move on so not sure what theyre strategy is.

I already said it... this is gonna be a Bosh to Miami situation where he has already agreed to sign with Philly this offseason. Whether it's the 4 year max or a 5 year sign and trade will be based on what the Raptors demand back from Philly.

You think Philly views Pascal as their missing piece and a huge upgrade over Tobias who they would have to renounce rights to?

Of course, Siakam is a level above Harris and is a great 3rd option on that team. There is literally no other max player available this offseason. Philly is making such an effort to have max cap space available to the point they told Harden to screw off and only accepted expiring contracts in return.

[WuTang_CMB]

[JB7]

I've said it before but I truly think Siakam has already been tampered with from Philly and will sign there in the offseason for the max. He is going to finish the season and head there with us getting nothing back.

/Tin Foil Conspiracy

If that’s the case our FO is to blame for not moving him sooner.

I dont think him and Embiid get along. This is me just speculating tho based on how they interact on the court

Well Pascal did end one of Embiid's playoff runs with a nice elbow to his face (& broken bone). Of course Embiid is not petty and would remember something like that...

[SurgeIblocka]

The Raptors are not offering him the max. Siakam has sabotaged every trade attempt the Raptors have made. Do we really think he's going to then turn around and sign an extension with the Raptors in the offseason?

He knows where he wants to go. Any team can make trades and free up space to sign him if they knew he would join them. There's no way you can take the risk of keeping him beyond this trade deadline. He's on his way out and the Raptors want to move on.

I am a bit surprised he and his agent arent working with the Raps on a trade to a team he would resign with in the summer. Get his cake and eat it too.

Is he afraid other teams wouldnt value him like Toronto? Masai is making it clear the team is ready to move on so not sure what theyre strategy is.

I already said it... this is gonna be a Bosh to Miami situation where he has already agreed to sign with Philly this offseason. Whether it's the 4 year max or a 5 year sign and trade will be based on what the Raptors demand back from Philly.

Yup thats what I have been saying for a while now. Morey is one dirty SOB. Did it with Harden, Nurse and now Siakam

[mademan]

I am obviously not in the know, but if all this stuff about Siakim and/or his agent saying that they don't want to re-sign anywhere but Toronto is true, I would call his bluff. I would wait until the off-season to see what he would re-sign with us for. I would offer $30M for 2 seasons or 2 seasons plus a team option.

The Raptors are not offering him the max. Siakam has sabotaged every trade attempt the Raptors have made. Do we really think he's going to then turn around and sign an extension with the Raptors in the offseason?

He knows where he wants to go. Any team can make trades and free up space to sign him if they knew he would join them. There's no way you can take the risk of keeping him beyond this trade deadline. He's on his way out and the Raptors want to move on.

I am a bit surprised he and his agent arent working with the Raps on a trade to a team he would resign with in the summer. Get his cake and eat it too.

Is he afraid other teams wouldnt value him like Toronto? Masai is making it clear the team is ready to move on so not sure what theyre strategy is.

Why would they? Like ive been saying, he's got senority here. It may be "scottie's team", but Siakam still has free reign. He wont have that in Sacramento or Atlanta playing behind their stars. Not in Indy, or GSW or really any other team thats been rumoured (besides Detroit).

Im not saying he 100% wouldnt put up big numbers on those teams, but there's clearly a lot of uncertainty. Does he still get the max on the open market if he goes to the Kings and puts up 18/7/5 playing behind Sabonis and Fox? Or do teams see that and get scared of a 50mill/year contract? Thats a real risk that doesnt actually exist here

[manjusaka]

I already said it... this is gonna be a Bosh to Miami situation where he has already agreed to sign with Philly this offseason. Whether it's the 4 year max or a 5 year sign and trade will be based on what the Raptors demand back from Philly.

You think Philly views Pascal as their missing piece and a huge upgrade over Tobias who they would have to renounce rights to?

Of course, Siakam is a level above Harris and is a great 3rd option on that team. There is literally no other max player available this offseason. Philly is making such an effort to have max cap space available to the point they told Harden to screw off and only accepted expiring contracts in return.

They only have Embiid, reed, and springer under contract next season. Maxey is due for extension which very likely to be a max contract similar to what Bane just got. Embiid is getting 50m next year.
Their cap space is kinda tight, if they offer Pascal a max.

[SurgeIblocka]

Since when is grange pumping out all this random info? Did he find a new friend?

Since Daryl Morey got in his ear and is paying him under the table. Fans should riot against Grange with pitch forks.

[JB7]

send him to the pacers

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If Hali can return before the playoffs, this works in the trade checker:

Pascal, GTJ & Dennis for Mathurin, Hield, Brown and Toppin or Walker, and possibly a pick.

Would suck that Raps lose a good back-up PG in Dennis, but if he is already starting to make a stink about being a bench player, it will only get worse.

[SpezNc]

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Actually his position sense.

t’s logical that Schroder wants to be the lead PG. he is competitive.

He is also performing at a high level as a bench PG.

That’s said I have a problem with the fact that he repeating that that he signed here to be lead PG

Toronto was arguably his best chance
There is never any guarantee in nba
He started 30 games, not like he did not had his chance, Raps were a losing team. Changes were required
There was always rumors that Siakam/OG could be in plays meaning other PG could be acquired
Despite Quickley addition and coming from bench he is still playing starting calibers minutes.

I agree that Schroder could be a valuable trading piece. Would be strong asset management after losing FVV.

That is said for some reason i think he is here to stay.

[Tor_Raps]

You think Philly views Pascal as their missing piece and a huge upgrade over Tobias who they would have to renounce rights to?

Of course, Siakam is a level above Harris and is a great 3rd option on that team. There is literally no other max player available this offseason. Philly is making such an effort to have max cap space available to the point they told Harden to screw off and only accepted expiring contracts in return.

They only have Embiid, reed, and springer under contract next season. Maxey is due for extension which very likely to be a max contract similar to what Bane just got. Embiid is getting 50m next year.
Their cap space is kinda tight, if they offer Pascal a max.

There's a reason why Philly didn't offer Maxey a contract extension this past offseason because his cap hold is so low that they can sign another max free agent first and then give him his rookie max extension.

[WuTang_CMB]

Dejoiunte Murray can be traded today January 9

ATL need to make a move asap to save their season

NY wants DJM. I wonder if there is a 3 way deal to be had between us, ATL and NY

[SurgeIblocka]

send him to the pacers

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Actually his position sense.

t’s logical that Schroder wants to be the lead PG. he is competitive.

He is also performing at a high level as a bench PG.

That’s said I have a problem with the fact that he repeating that that he signed here to be lead PG

Toronto was arguably his best chance
There is never any guarantee in nba
He started 30 games, not like he did had his chance, Raps were a losing team. Changes were required
There was always rumors that Siakam/OG could be in plays meaning other PG could be acquired
Despite Quickley addition and coming from bench he is still playing starting calibers player.

I agree that Schroder could be a valuable trading piece. Would be strong asset management after losing FVV.

That is said for some reason i think he is here to stay.

Well reality is that Masai and Darko 100% told him he would be the starting PG and thats probably why he signed with us, otherwise he would have stayed in LA. Its a ruthless business and it goes both ways. Masai made his bed and hell have to deal with it in Pascal and Dennis.

[Psubs]

Dejoiunte Murray can be traded today January 9

ATL need to make a move asap to save their season

NY wants DJM. I wonder if there is a 3 way deal to be had between us, ATL and NY

For who, Trent Jr? Fournier and something? Are the other expirings better than Fournier to get like a 2nd pick?

[DreamTeam09]

You think Philly views Pascal as their missing piece and a huge upgrade over Tobias who they would have to renounce rights to?

Of course, Siakam is a level above Harris and is a great 3rd option on that team. There is literally no other max player available this offseason. Philly is making such an effort to have max cap space available to the point they told Harden to screw off and only accepted expiring contracts in return.

They only have Embiid, reed, and springer under contract next season. Maxey is due for extension which very likely to be a max contract similar to what Bane just got. Embiid is getting 50m next year.
Their cap space is kinda tight, if they offer Pascal a max.

It's fake capsapce, they're gonna hold onto Melton as well who has a 15mill cap hold, they might be better off operating above the cap this summer, or use their assets this trade deadline.

[KrazyP]

if a team with his bird's rights offers him the max contract with 5th year, he's NOT turning it down. he needs it. siakam is about the money at the end of the day. he's not the level of player that can turn that down

Ideally, for siakam, his birds rights would get traded to the exact team of his choosing and be would sign to that team for the max possible. let's say that team is something like Dallas - a team that can't really offer Raps much of what we need and can be outbid by teams like IND and ATL. well then siakam can try and get there by outright BLUFFING and telling other teams he won't sign their 5-year max contract offer and hope to devalue offers from the raps to the point where Dallas' offer could compete....and best case for him, the raps end up sending him there with his birds rights for that big contract he needs

but it's very possible both the Raps and another team call that BLUFF and make a deal regardless, knowing he's not turning the additional $$$ down that the team with his birds rights can offer

No ones offering pascal 5 years to resign him. Those 5 year deals aren't offered to 30 year olds unless they're steph curry level. Bradley Beal was given a 5 yr max at age 29 and everyone saw how that turned out. They had to trade him for pennies cause that contract was so toxic.

Beal had a NO TRADE clause and was perpetually injured which diminished a lot of his trade value.

Despite this, the Wizards still shed his entire salary + something like 5 pick swaps lasting to the year 2030....Suns likely wont be good for long so that deal will likely turn out pretty well for the Wizards.

[DreamTeam09]

send him to the pacers

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Actually his position sense.

t’s logical that Schroder wants to be the lead PG. he is competitive.

He is also performing at a high level as a bench PG.

That’s said I have a problem with the fact that he repeating that that he signed here to be lead PG

Toronto was arguably his best chance
There is never any guarantee in nba
He started 30 games, not like he did had his chance, Raps were a losing team. Changes were required
There was always rumors that Siakam/OG could be in plays meaning other PG could be acquired
Despite Quickley addition and coming from bench he is still playing starting calibers player.

I agree that Schroder could be a valuable trading piece. Would be strong asset management after losing FVV.

That is said for some reason i think he is here to stay.

Well reality is that Masai and Darko 100% told him he would be the starting PG and thats probably why he signed with us, otherwise he would have stayed in LA. Its a ruthless business and it goes both ways. Masai made his bed and hell have to deal with it in Pascal and Dennis.

He was never gonna stay in LA because LA moved on from him and used his slot to get Gabe Vincent who they viewed as a better fit with them due to his shooting. They never had bird rights on Dennis. He was never gonna go back to LA because LA didn't want him back. Well MGMT atleast, Ham said he wanted him back.

Why do you guys play the mental gymnastic games lol

[Psubs]

If Hali can return before the playoffs, this works in the trade checker:

Pascal, GTJ & Dennis for Mathurin, Hield, Brown and Toppin or Walker, and possibly a pick.

Would suck that Raps lose a good back-up PG in Dennis, but if he is already starting to make a stink about being a bench player, it will only get worse.

Pascal, GTJr, Schroder and Temple and 2nd pick (NY) for Walker, Toppin, McConnell, Brown, Isaiah Jackson and two 1st picks. Hield to NY for Fournier and 2nd pick (NY).

Maybe McConnell, Thaddeus and cash to Memphis for Kennard?

Maybe Brown, Boucher and cash to Charlotte for Gordon Hayward and Ish Smith and 2025 2nd pick ?


PG IQ - Barnes - Ish
SG Barrett - Kennard - Fournier
SF Hayward - Walker - Dick
PF Barnes - Toppin
C Poeltl - Johntay/Jackson

[Tha Cynic]

send him to the pacers

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big surprise here.

[LoveMyRaps]

Suggested this exact trade earlier in the year and now that there's reports of Smart and Kennard being shopped, I thought I'd bring it up again:



This is a much better version of the Kings offer.

Smart > Barnes
Kennard >> Huerter
Aldama >>>>>> Davion

Aldama has always intrigued me and can slide in as our PF.


Grizzlies do it because it gives them the cap flexibility & bird rights to re-sign Siakam and come back next season with Morant/Bane/Siakam/JJJ/Adams - Instant contender.

[WuTang_CMB]

Dejoiunte Murray can be traded today January 9

ATL need to make a move asap to save their season

NY wants DJM. I wonder if there is a 3 way deal to be had between us, ATL and NY

For who, Trent Jr? Fournier and something? Are the other expirings better than Fournier to get like a 2nd pick?

ATL gets:
Siakam and Gary Trent Jr

NY gets:
Dejounte Murray
Jalen McDaniels

TOR gets:
Okungru
Bogi
Fournier
Bufkin or AJ Griffin
picks from NY


New York does this deal in a heartbeat. Toronto probably too but we aren't getting better this season. This is a re-set for the future type deal. Not the greatest IMO but you can make some moves later. ATL probably declines but who knows how desperate they are to shake things up. They can't wait any longer and DJM isn't a fit there. We would all want JJ but looks like he's off the board.