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2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#701 » by Grindhouse » Tue Feb 25, 2025 5:41 pm

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I would say building a team while collecting assets. Already cashed in Brown, Olynyk and Indy 2026 1st pick for Brandon Ingram. I can see another trade in the summer to consolidate more assets.

I want to obtain a mid to late 1st to draft Alex Condon, who should at least hit the 3 at league average and do all the things that Poeltl does but is quicker.

Fleming would be a forward that can hit the 3, get steals and blocks, finish with power and play some smallball C with his 7'5 wingspan. :nod:



alex condon is going to struggle in the nba he needs alot more strength he has no explosion maybe if he was 7’2.

fleming cant hit water if he fell out of a boat hard pass


Fleming can't what?

What are you talking about man?




i will say it slowly cant hit water if he fell out of a boat! can I add his hands are made out of reinforced concrete bricks
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#702 » by Grindhouse » Tue Feb 25, 2025 5:50 pm

hyper316 wrote:Win the draft, pick Flagg, play either Flagg and Barnes at Center

Vision 6'9" 2.0

Barnes
Flagg
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Barrett
IQ

Ochai
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Walter
Mogbo
Shead
Boucher
Robinson


1. he is not good at center
2. he doesnt want to play center
3. our team is drastically worst when this is attemped
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#703 » by Rapsfan07 » Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:09 pm

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alex condon is going to struggle in the nba he needs alot more strength he has no explosion maybe if he was 7’2.

fleming cant hit water if he fell out of a boat hard pass


Fleming can't what?

What are you talking about man?




i will say it slowly cant hit water if he fell out of a boat! can I add his hands are made out of reinforced concrete bricks


One game?

He's making 1.9 on 4.3 attempts from 3 per game. How is that not hitting water if he fell out of a boat?
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#704 » by Psubs » Tue Feb 25, 2025 7:19 pm

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alex condon is going to struggle in the nba he needs alot more strength he has no explosion maybe if he was 7’2.

fleming cant hit water if he fell out of a boat hard pass


Fleming can't what?

What are you talking about man?




i will say it slowly cant hit water if he fell out of a boat! can I add his hands are made out of reinforced concrete bricks


He isn't smooth and doesn't have great touch but what did OG look like at Indiana on his misses?



Really like his steals/turnover at 0.88. It's crazy that both of their BPM's were 8.9 and near identiacal splits of 5.5 OBPM and 3.4 DBPM. Rasheer being taller gets more blocks than steals.

Maybe Adou Thiero profiles like OG? I was just mentioning him to compare weaknesses.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#705 » by Thaddy » Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:11 am

Fleming is too low for the lotto pick and out of range for the 2nd. We have a logjam at SG too, maybe we should trade Dick for Fleming? We need a big man prospect but we should also pick BPA with the lotto pick we have. It's a tough call.
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Post#706 » by Son Goku 25 » Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:38 am

Read somewhere the Raptors are favorites to land Embiid this summer aside from staying with the sixers.. I mean if he's healthy obviously but that's hard to imagine.

If we can load manage him he's basically mvp level and one of the best big man.
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Post#707 » by PhilBlackson » Wed Feb 26, 2025 4:44 am

Are the TWolves still in a money pinch?! Maybe they’d take POR 25 SRP + good ol cash considerations for Leonard Miller. Dying to find a way for us to be able to take a flyer on him.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#708 » by Thaddy » Wed Feb 26, 2025 9:02 am

Son Goku 25 wrote:Read somewhere the Raptors are favorites to land Embiid this summer aside from staying with the sixers.. I mean if he's healthy obviously but that's hard to imagine.

If we can load manage him he's basically mvp level and one of the best big man.

That would be a good move as much as I dislike Embiid. It would probably be Barrett + Poeltl? Maybe Dick thrown in?

Embiid / Maluach / Chomche
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Battle
Agbaji / Walter
IQ / Shead

There's a lack of bench scoring that would need Walter to fill or another acquisition using future picks. If Maluach is good we could load manage Embiid. Barnes would need to pick up his scoring for us to manage Ingram.
That looks like a contender if I ever saw one.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#709 » by Rapsfan07 » Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:22 pm

Thaddy wrote:Fleming is too low for the lotto pick and out of range for the 2nd. We have a logjam at SG too, maybe we should trade Dick for Fleming? We need a big man prospect but we should also pick BPA with the lotto pick we have. It's a tough call.


Shouldn't be too tough of a call.

If we land in the top 4, we take one of the top 4 guys and we can still trade Dick for a mid-first to grab Fleming if we're interested.

If we land outside of the top 4, we can move down with a team like Brooklyn who has 3 firsts in the 20s and try and get him there.

We'll have to make a choice on Dick or Agbaji sometime soon; since Walter is in the fold it would be too expensive and not enough minutes for everyone.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#710 » by Rapsfan07 » Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:26 pm

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Son Goku 25 wrote:Read somewhere the Raptors are favorites to land Embiid this summer aside from staying with the sixers.. I mean if he's healthy obviously but that's hard to imagine.

If we can load manage him he's basically mvp level and one of the best big man.

That would be a good move as much as I dislike Embiid. It would probably be Barrett + Poeltl? Maybe Dick thrown in?

Embiid / Maluach / Chomche
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Battle
Agbaji / Walter
IQ / Shead

There's a lack of bench scoring that would need Walter to fill or another acquisition using future picks. If Maluach is good we could load manage Embiid. Barnes would need to pick up his scoring for us to manage Ingram.
That looks like a contender if I ever saw one.


Embiid is scheduled to have a knee surgery if I'm not mistaken. Who knows how he'll return from that.

But assuming he's the same guy, I think this is too good of a chance to pass up on.

I wouldn't take Maluach either way but especially in this case. Rather use the pick to move down and fill the bench with some much needed cheap depth.
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Post#711 » by YogurtProducer » Wed Feb 26, 2025 5:35 pm

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Son Goku 25 wrote:Read somewhere the Raptors are favorites to land Embiid this summer aside from staying with the sixers.. I mean if he's healthy obviously but that's hard to imagine.

If we can load manage him he's basically mvp level and one of the best big man.

That would be a good move as much as I dislike Embiid. It would probably be Barrett + Poeltl? Maybe Dick thrown in?

Embiid / Maluach / Chomche
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Battle
Agbaji / Walter
IQ / Shead

There's a lack of bench scoring that would need Walter to fill or another acquisition using future picks. If Maluach is good we could load manage Embiid. Barnes would need to pick up his scoring for us to manage Ingram.
That looks like a contender if I ever saw one.

I think I would wanna hang onto Poeltl somehow. Good chance he ends up starting half the season if you have Embiid.

Edit: doesnt matter anyways. No way to get salaries working. Embiid has $55M owing. Outside doing Ingram/Poeltl I don't think it is even possible.

IQ/RJ/Barnes/Embiid with no depth sounds not very fun.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#712 » by Johnston » Wed Feb 26, 2025 7:56 pm

Unless there is a prospect we really covet, I'd try to trade with miami or the Spurs. They are in a position to consolidate, we need talent. Id personally trade a Newell/Jak level prospect of on get Fleming+Queen/Maluch etc or something along those lines.

Top 3/4 depending on how you view Ace seem to be in their own tier at this point. 5-18 seems to be pretty close.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#713 » by Grindhouse » Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:07 pm

Johnston wrote:Unless there is a prospect we really covet, I'd try to trade with miami or the Spurs. They are in a position to consolidate, we need talent. Id personally trade a Newell/Jak level prospect of on get Fleming+Queen/Maluch etc or something along those lines.

Top 3/4 depending on how you view Ace seem to be in their own tier at this point. 5-18 seems to be pretty close.


i am willing to bet money on queen i am willing to say he will be the best player in this draft
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#714 » by Johnston » Wed Feb 26, 2025 11:13 pm

Grindhouse wrote:
Johnston wrote:Unless there is a prospect we really covet, I'd try to trade with miami or the Spurs. They are in a position to consolidate, we need talent. Id personally trade a Newell/Jak level prospect of on get Fleming+Queen/Maluch etc or something along those lines.

Top 3/4 depending on how you view Ace seem to be in their own tier at this point. 5-18 seems to be pretty close.


i am willing to bet money on queen i am willing to say he will be the best player in this draft


I like him aswell,skilled, great foot work, high IQ, lots of intangibles etc. I think his success will be very dependant on who drafts him. He won't be effective as a 5th option C.
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Post#715 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Thu Feb 27, 2025 12:43 am

Son Goku 25 wrote:Read somewhere the Raptors are favorites to land Embiid this summer aside from staying with the sixers.. I mean if he's healthy obviously but that's hard to imagine.

If we can load manage him he's basically mvp level and one of the best big man.


Who are we trading to get him? RJ and Poeltl?
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#716 » by Psubs » Thu Feb 27, 2025 2:48 pm

Just like the Cavs poaching Strus from Miami, can we poach Ty Jerome from the Cavs?

Is the MLE enough? Would they match? Or give him $15 million per year? Might be a good idea instead of bringing back Boucher.

He has an A/T of almost 3 and shoots 52/44/88. This draft looks weak on PGs. Should pick up a big like Fleming and Condon, so Scottie never has to guard a C again.

Looks like need to trade some guards. Trade Barrett, Dick, Poeltl and 2025 2nd pick (Por) for KD and Nik Richards and #30. Trade #30 for a future 1st pick?

PG IQ - Jerome - Shead
SG Ingram - Jerome - Jakobe
SF KD - Agbaji - Mogbo/Battle
PF Barnes - Fleming - Mogbo
C Richards - Condon - Fleming

905 - Chomche

This is a really go for it the next couple of years move.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#717 » by sidsid » Thu Feb 27, 2025 2:49 pm

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Son Goku 25 wrote:Read somewhere the Raptors are favorites to land Embiid this summer aside from staying with the sixers.. I mean if he's healthy obviously but that's hard to imagine.

If we can load manage him he's basically mvp level and one of the best big man.

That would be a good move as much as I dislike Embiid. It would probably be Barrett + Poeltl? Maybe Dick thrown in?

Embiid / Maluach / Chomche
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Battle
Agbaji / Walter
IQ / Shead

There's a lack of bench scoring that would need Walter to fill or another acquisition using future picks. If Maluach is good we could load manage Embiid. Barnes would need to pick up his scoring for us to manage Ingram.
That looks like a contender if I ever saw one.


Jak/RJ has to be the basis of the deal looking at salaries and needs. I'll say we shouldn't include picks as this is a bad contract situation and he would probably have neutral to negative value, but it's Masai and he loves to give those away.

Trading for Embiid at his age and now confirmed knee issues is probably a riskier bet than Zion is.

But I prefer it to the potential Trae option which I'm sure we'll be rumoured in this summer.

On the plus side, he is a stretch 5! He actually fits with Barnes.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#718 » by Mister Ze » Thu Feb 27, 2025 5:34 pm

This teams draft pick is its best shot this summer at acquiring generational talent. Catching up to Hornets Wizards Pelicans and Jazz is probably off the table now but the least they could do is ensure they're ahead of the Nets and Sixers with top 5 odds.
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Post#719 » by bballsparkin » Fri Feb 28, 2025 4:46 am

Thaddy wrote:Fleming is too low for the lotto pick and out of range for the 2nd. We have a logjam at SG too, maybe we should trade Dick for Fleming? We need a big man prospect but we should also pick BPA with the lotto pick we have. It's a tough call.


If Dick is lousy and a lost cause like you seem to insinuate than why would a team give up a valuable FRP for him in this draft? I mean, I'm a Gradey supporter but I'd be down trading for a 15ish OA pick in this draft.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#720 » by Thaddy » Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:47 am

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Thaddy wrote:Fleming is too low for the lotto pick and out of range for the 2nd. We have a logjam at SG too, maybe we should trade Dick for Fleming? We need a big man prospect but we should also pick BPA with the lotto pick we have. It's a tough call.


If Dick is lousy and a lost cause like you seem to insinuate than why would a team give up a valuable FRP for him in this draft? I mean, I'm a Gradey supporter but I'd be down trading for a 15ish OA pick in this draft.

Why did Bargnani score a lottery pick? Because another GM values players differently :roll:

A team like the Hornets would love to have Gradey. I would guess Mark Williams is an easy bet on a return since Dalton Knecht was recently almost traded for him. If they gave up the Mavs 2027 1st and Williams I wouldn't say no to that deal. Dick isn't untouchable. In my opinion I would probably do the direct swap for Williams, maybe try to get some 2nds.

Poeltl / Williams
Barnes / Mogbo
Ingram / Agbaji
Barrett / Walter
IQ / 2025 1st / Shead

From a defensive standpoint that line up just looks way better without Dick. Then you have our lottery pick and Walter who could be good on offense.

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