PG: derozan will never learn

[Patman]

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This is masturbation material for his fanboys. They love this ****.

Clean up the language and tone, por favor.

[hsb]

DeMar was a problem, so as all the other pussies on the team that passed up shots that would rather watch DeMar ISO so they wouldn't have to try and score.

I feel like the only player to pass up shots they absolutely should've taken at any impressionable quantity was Delon. I yelled at the screen one time and I don't really do that when watching a game lol.

I think setting up better in-rhythm shots means DD and KL have to execute quicker off the screen rather than just use a screen to catch the ball and dribble for a decent amount of time. If they don't, they can get caught up in getting their own shots as the defense is well established rather than moving out of position. Also, it's just a flat out fact DD missed too many rollers in the first half.

I don't know if there's a video of it but there was a play I distinctly remember where Poeltl was semi open on a pass from DeMar near the elbow. Gortat had his head turned, Poeltl just needed to attack. Instead he dribbles it back out and finds DeMar again for a reset. Inexcusable.

There's a rhythm to a game. If you're trained to work with two players that want to take all of the shots for a large stretch of your minutes, your natural instinct isn't to attack on offense. The fluidity isn't there, especially someone like Poeltl who is very methodical on execution. The only one who seemingly can do this is JV, whose ability to keep on rolling without touches can be its own TED Talk on perseverance lol.

[TOStateofMind]

Aside from the awful exection on offense in the 4th letsnot ignore the 40 pts they gave up in the 3rd.

[720]

Based off of what Casey said in the postgame presser I think our assistants are the reason we were so unselfish this season.

[alienchild]

Based off of what Casey said in the postgame presser I think our assistants are the reason we were so unselfish this season.

Guess they'll be unemployed soon.

[Kabookalu]

I feel like the only player to pass up shots they absolutely should've taken at any impressionable quantity was Delon. I yelled at the screen one time and I don't really do that when watching a game lol.

I think setting up better in-rhythm shots means DD and KL have to execute quicker off the screen rather than just use a screen to catch the ball and dribble for a decent amount of time. If they don't, they can get caught up in getting their own shots as the defense is well established rather than moving out of position. Also, it's just a flat out fact DD missed too many rollers in the first half.

I don't know if there's a video of it but there was a play I distinctly remember where Poeltl was semi open on a pass from DeMar near the elbow. Gortat had his head turned, Poeltl just needed to attack. Instead he dribbles it back out and finds DeMar again for a reset. Inexcusable.

There's a rhythm to a game. If you're trained to work with two players that want to take all of the shots for a large stretch of your minutes, your natural instinct isn't to attack on offense. The fluidity isn't there, especially someone like Poeltl who is very methodical on execution. The only one who seemingly can do this is JV, whose ability to keep on rolling without touches can be its own TED Talk on perseverance lol.

I've always seen this argument used to explain past offenses but I saw it as an indictment against those players instead of defense of them; you don't need rhythm to see that you should attack the basket. I understand it effects shooters, but not when a player has the opportunity to attack and they just choose not to.

[Red_Claw]

Based off of what Casey said in the postgame presser I think our assistants are the reason we were so unselfish this season.

Not new news. Thats where the "culture change" came from. Nick Nurse took over the offence. Nothing has changed with Casey over the years. Same playoff team as 5 years ago.

[traps#10]

No lead is safe when Casey is in charge. Always calling timeouts 1-2 possessions too slow.

I still remember when the Raptors were close to beating Warriors in their own house earlier this season and the Raptors were up 5. so what could possibly go wrong? DeMar brick, Kyle brick, Kyle brick again, Kyle blocked and that's it. Totally going away from Jakob Poeltl who was the reason why the Raptors were in the game to begin with. The Warriors made their game-winning run when they saw that the Raptors were fooling around with iso ball to close the last 2 minutes.

Iso ball killing our leads was an issue back in late October, it still seems to be an issue now.

I think the problem is that Casey trust his “clutch” all stars too much to save us from the hole we dug ourselves in. Different coaches have different styles, some calls time outs before they let the other team go on a huge run, some wait and see if their team can redeem their selves.

[C.Boshly]

The culture and playstyle of this team is fine. This is the NBA; if your stars do not perform you will not be successful. Who exactly on this team would you rather have with the ball? Lowry and Delon who have no game between the three point line and basket? CJ Miles who looked terrified?

Casey was 100% on point in postgame. This team has to execute offensively, stop with the ridiculous turnovers and cannot pass up shots they normally take. We were in a position to win the game and either Lowry or Demar has to lead us there.

If the culture and play style was fine, what was this entire season of "culture change" for? Apparently, everyone in the entire organization bought into the "culture change", but you think it wasn't a good idea.

Our stars haven't perform in a couple of previous series, but we still got to the next round due to our supporting cast. You are also assuming our stars are at a level that they haven't reached yet. They are essential strong scorers who can't always be relied upon. The narrative that we have to win with Lowry/DD leading the way is false.

Lowry and Delon are more than capable of sharing and initiating possessions. The team has had plenty of minutes and games without DD in the past several years and they've done just fine.

Even Lowry and DD disagree with you, saying that they didn't follow their offense and the offense was stagnated, but no, the play style was fine.

My point is that our current culture is fine. I think the season proved that and it shouldn’t be dismissed over one game. I am not advocating a return to previous styles of play; I do not want to see Demar take 30 shots and not share the ball. We both watched the game; it was ugly but I don’t like see people slagging Demar. The entire team did not execute. None of the supporting cast stepped up and imposed themselves offensively. It devolved into Demar playing heroball. We are going to have to win a few games on Demar’s back and if you don’t believe that you are fooling yourself.

The sad part is today the game was there to be won even with our sloppy performance and I am disappointed Demar could not find a way to get us there. Everyone top to bottom is to blame for the disgraceful performance.

[RaptorsNorth]

as bad as demar was in this it's not just about him. the wizards are getting some kind of production from even their end of the bench guys, guys like ian coming in and blocking shots but what are the raptors getting from guys like cj ? even pascal is not playing as well as he did in the regular season. i think not having fred out there is having a bigger impact on the bench not playing as well than people think.

[Yosemite Dan]

Did Casey actuslly say that he thought DD was terrific tonight? If so then honestly both him and DD need to be gone over the summer. Or it’s gonna be the same old thing every year. Watching the Cavs/Pacers game right now, we are not beating either of those teams. It’s better just to lose the Wiz series to force changes. I can’t see one or the other being on this team next year if we lose now instead of anither 7 game series with Washington. Then we win 2 games ar home in the 2nd round but still lose in 6 with all the road games being not even close especially if it’s the Cavs. If the Pacers beat the Cavs then the Raptors will seem like mincemeat to them because they’ll be sky high with confidence.

[scopy]

Just a quick aside. Why isn't Gortat getting called for offensive fouls on every screen he sets. He is always moving and holding the player he's screening on every play. It's completely ridiculous.

Yup Morris too. He literally was standing still then jumped over and stood vertically to block lowry.
Then Poeltl gets called for slightest movement.

Beal pushes Lowry off no call.
CJ Miles pushes off Oubre, not as hard, gets the call.
Demar gets clobbered by Morris no call.
Oubre drives gets the call on a soft foul.
Reffing tonight was ridiculous. In a close game those are huge calls.

[Red_Claw]

I went into the playoffs positive and hopeful we'd get to the finals.... No way in hell that happens now. We might get past this round by the skin of our teeth but it will be for nothing. Harder working and better coached teams will easily take us out next round.

[teamLeiweke]

I don’t know why everyone is tripping. Washington if Wall doesn’t miss 41 games is a 3/4 seed. This is a second round matchup vs a team that matches up well with us that swept us a few years ago. We took care of game 1. We went up 2-0 first time ever. We handled business at home. They handled business at home. I didn’t think this would be an easy series at all. After LeBron I was most worried about Wiz in the entire Eastern conference. Wasn’t as worried about Heat, Bucks, Pacers. But Washington was a challenge. Just gotta win at home on Wednesday and we are up 3-2. Try to remain calm everyone. Most series aren’t a sweep.

[Yosemite Dan]

Take open shots when you have them? Go up for lay ups when you're around the rim? Did you not see Poeltl down low in the post, and instead of trying to attack he'd just dribble it out and find DeMar? How many open looks did Delon pass up? Some of you guys have lower IQs than Ibaka. When players are REFUSING to shoot someone has to, and DeMar's the only one that wants to, too bad he ****ing sucks at it.

Did you even watch the game or were you too busy posting on the GT every 2 mins? The instances where DD actually gave up the ball where a teammate had an open look, you would be able to count on one hand. The guy took 29 shots and went to the FT line 18 times. Possessions numbering in the high 30s he took the shot and the vast majority without even looking to pass.

Are you serious right now? Do you just not watch the game until the last 3 seconds of the possession? You don't see our guys being scared to challenge the Wizards defense?

Ok you really didnt watch the game. Thanks for the confirmation. Yeah DD with the 50% usage rate but he was forced to by his teammates. Sounds plausible......in bizarro world.

[GordanFreeman]

In my book Wiz’s are favourites now. It proved time and time again that the team with best all stars are going to win. It’s proven so far that Beil and Wall are real all stars while our mental midgets are where they were in every single playoff series in their **** careers. TBH I don’t mind, another drubbing by LeBron I just don’t want to see.

they're definitely not the favourites. That's your emotions clouding your judgment bruv. We're one of the best home teams in the L. We'll win the next two.

[Vlade Divac]

19 assists, only 18 3 point shots, 19 turnovers and your "allstar" shoots 34% while taking 30 shots. Is this 2015 or 2018?

[Red_Claw]

I don’t know why everyone is tripping. Washington if Wall doesn’t miss 41 games is a 3/4 seed. This is a second round matchup vs a team that matches up well with us that swept us a few years ago. We took care of game 1. We went up 2-0 first time ever. We handles business at home. They handles business at home. I didn’t think this would be an easy series at all. After LeBron I was most worried about Wiz in the entire Eastern conference. Wasn’t as worried about Heat, Bucks, Pacers. But Washington was a challenge. Just gotta win at home on Wednesday and we are up 3-2. Try to remain calm everyone. Most series aren’t a sweep.

Washington isin't beating us.... Toronto Raptors are beating the Toronto Raptors. Pick a stat from our losses and you won't be able to win with any singular one.

[720]

New creative argument, he was 'forced' to be a ball hog. lol

[kj_]

Wizards have adjusted exceptionally well. No more traps or doubles on Kyle or Demar. They are staying home on shooters and making Kyle and Demar score. Demar did not do that with efficiency tonight. If that doesn’t change, the Wizards could very well win this series. Wednesday Demar needs to show up. There will be immense pressure on him.


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They're switching everything. Kyle and DD have to carry us but they're not. Lowry can't even get by Gortat, it's sad.

Yes. This is the fundamental issue the Raps will need to deal with going forward. This is how the Wizards will defend the rest of this series. All this yelling and screaming that Demar and Kyle are reverting to iso ball is misguided. The Defence has changed and they are forcing this one on one action. If the Raps can’t find a way to exploit these match ups on the switches, they will be forced to take tough contested shots. Got to beat your man when they switch to a favourable match up and finish consistently and FORCE the D to rotate and help. That will open the floor up. Tonight, that didn’t happen.


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