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[Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy

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Re: [Jake Fisher] The word surrounding OG Anunoby’s trade candidacy 

Post#721 » by Madhouse » Mon Jun 6, 2022 9:30 pm

mademan wrote:Where do people stand on Precious eventually replacing OG tho? I dont think he's as good, obv, but if you think you can get 80% of OG from Precious, does that change your stance on moving OG?


He is probably better than when OG was in year 2.

But I don't think you can slot him in as SF eventually. He is a much better post than perimeter defender also. I think his best position is PF with a slightly bigger version of himself with better shot blocking ability next to him. But wing I don't see.
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Post#722 » by Bruin » Mon Jun 6, 2022 9:34 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:I wouldnt mind a sign and trade with OG, Flynn, multiple firsts and pick swaps for Ayton

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Post#723 » by Jerry Lucas » Mon Jun 6, 2022 9:45 pm

Lmao at all the OG for Turner proposals I'm seeing. I would only do Trent for Turner (he also only has 1 year left on his deal).
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Post#724 » by Madhouse » Mon Jun 6, 2022 9:46 pm

Jerry Lucas wrote:Lmao at all the OG for Turner proposals I'm seeing. I would only do Trent for Turner (he also only has 1 year left on his deal).


I wouldn't even do that. Trent is quiet valuable with his shooting and shotmaking.
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Post#725 » by aroc23 » Mon Jun 6, 2022 9:58 pm

Madhouse wrote:
Jerry Lucas wrote:Lmao at all the OG for Turner proposals I'm seeing. I would only do Trent for Turner (he also only has 1 year left on his deal).


I wouldn't even do that. Trent is quiet valuable with his shooting and shotmaking.


I am with you, but it would help balance the starting line up. That said, I am not a fan of trading a 23 year old for a 26 year old unless it is a clear talent upgrade, and I do not think this is one.

There would definitely need to be a follow up move to get another shooting guard if they move either GTJ or OG for a big. This team cannot afford to lose any shooting or shot creation whatsoever.
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Post#726 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Jun 6, 2022 10:05 pm

Has anyone looked at this year's free agent class? No wonder OG is getting hype throughout the league. It's garbage.
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Post#727 » by tdotrep2 » Mon Jun 6, 2022 10:08 pm

i'd do og for myles and 6.
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Post#728 » by Jerry Lucas » Mon Jun 6, 2022 10:12 pm

aroc23 wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
Jerry Lucas wrote:Lmao at all the OG for Turner proposals I'm seeing. I would only do Trent for Turner (he also only has 1 year left on his deal).


I wouldn't even do that. Trent is quiet valuable with his shooting and shotmaking.


I am with you, but it would help balance the starting line up. That said, I am not a fan of trading a 23 year old for a 26 year old unless it is a clear talent upgrade, and I do not think this is one.

There would definitely need to be a follow up move to get another shooting guard if they move either GTJ or OG for a big. This team cannot afford to lose any shooting or shot creation whatsoever.

A starting 5 of
FVV
OG
Scottie point forward
Pascal
Turner

Would work just fine. I still believe in OG and Scottie improving their perimeter shooting enough to account for the loss in 3PT spacing going from Trent to Turner.
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Post#729 » by ontnut » Mon Jun 6, 2022 10:20 pm

aroc23 wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
Jerry Lucas wrote:Lmao at all the OG for Turner proposals I'm seeing. I would only do Trent for Turner (he also only has 1 year left on his deal).


I wouldn't even do that. Trent is quiet valuable with his shooting and shotmaking.


I am with you, but it would help balance the starting line up. That said, I am not a fan of trading a 23 year old for a 26 year old unless it is a clear talent upgrade, and I do not think this is one.

There would definitely need to be a follow up move to get another shooting guard if they move either GTJ or OG for a big. This team cannot afford to lose any shooting or shot creation whatsoever.

I'm not entirely convinced that a "balanced starting rotation" is really that desirable to us.

I think our approach is to identify something we do better than the rest of the league and lean heavily into that.

Having a big off the bench who can bang a bit would be a nice luxury to have, and present some different lineup looks for the playoffs, but I don't think it's something we necessarily need to focus on for the SL.

Our advantage over the rest of the league (for now and likely into the future) appears to be above average sized wings who can all attack, pass, shoot 3's and defend. We have more of them than anyone else. If that's our strength, I think you lean into that, not take away from it to fill a perceived hole. Doing that will likely make you a more average team, and easier for the average playoff team to defend. It may be a bit gimmicky, but it's a gimmick that might just win a championship down the line if the playoff schedule gods bless us with teams unable to defend multiple wings.
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Post#730 » by CoinTossRoss31 » Mon Jun 6, 2022 10:34 pm

Hart + 7 (Daniels or Mathurin) + Keon Johnson.

That's the minimum haul I would believe. Some posters here are forgetting that Keon was slated to go anywhere from 7-14 last year.
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Post#731 » by ontnut » Mon Jun 6, 2022 10:42 pm

CoinTossRoss31 wrote:Hart + 7 (Daniels or Mathurin) + Keon Johnson.

That's the minimum haul I would believe. Some posters here are forgetting that Keon was slated to go anywhere from 7-14 last year.

In another thread I ruminated about how many lottery picks it would take for me to trade guys on our team. OG was 2. So, this makes some sense - if management likes a guy at 7, and like Keon, I could see this happening. But yeah, that's the minimum I would accept for OG. 2 lottery picks and a serviceable body. In this scenario we likely have to send back our 2nd rounder this year, but I'd consider it.
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Post#732 » by Bruin » Mon Jun 6, 2022 10:43 pm

CoinTossRoss31 wrote:Hart + 7 (Daniels or Mathurin) + Keon Johnson.

That's the minimum haul I would believe. Some posters here are forgetting that Keon was slated to go anywhere from 7-14 last year.

That’s the minimum for me too. I’d like to potentially grab 36 from them too. Then we could package 33 and 36 to move up to the late teens or early 20s to maybe grab Tari Eason
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Post#733 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Mon Jun 6, 2022 11:05 pm

NotMyKawhi wrote:I'm looking at the upside of this I really want that 7th.

I think whoever they take is gonna be better than OG. Cheaper too. Closer to scotty's age and listen, if it's sharpe or mathurin knowing mu you picked them, knowing myself I think they both have superstar potential, that would be a different level of excitement. Like a Vince Carter era excitement

And then you get a Poeltl type role player. Just saying.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#734 » by LBJKB24MJ23 » Mon Jun 6, 2022 11:06 pm

Bruin wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:Hart + 7 (Daniels or Mathurin) + Keon Johnson.

That's the minimum haul I would believe. Some posters here are forgetting that Keon was slated to go anywhere from 7-14 last year.

That’s the minimum for me too. I’d like to potentially grab 36 from them too. Then we could package 33 and 36 to move up to the late teens or early 20s to maybe grab Tari Eason

Lol pipe dream yo.
raf1995 wrote:I just don’t think he has that kind of potential. I think we will regret not trading him for a haul in a few years when he’s a mid-tier starter with nice playmaking and defense and a shaky jumper.
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Post#735 » by mademan » Mon Jun 6, 2022 11:07 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
NotMyKawhi wrote:I'm looking at the upside of this I really want that 7th.

I think whoever they take is gonna be better than OG. Cheaper too. Closer to scotty's age and listen, if it's sharpe or mathurin knowing mu you picked them, knowing myself I think they both have superstar potential, that would be a different level of excitement. Like a Vince Carter era excitement

And then you get a Poeltl type role player. Just saying.


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Post#736 » by C_Money » Mon Jun 6, 2022 11:08 pm

I’m not a fan of any 3 for 1 deals where we give away the best player in the trade. We’re trying to get back to contender status and this is not the way.
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Post#737 » by CoinTossRoss31 » Mon Jun 6, 2022 11:10 pm

C_Money wrote:I’m not a fan of any 3 for 1 deals where we give away the best player in the trade. We’re trying to get back to contender status and this is not the way.


I'm in no way comparing the 2 players.
But that's exactly what we did when we traded Rudy Gay and ended up with pieces that turned to picks
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Post#738 » by aroc23 » Mon Jun 6, 2022 11:15 pm

ontnut wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:Hart + 7 (Daniels or Mathurin) + Keon Johnson.

That's the minimum haul I would believe. Some posters here are forgetting that Keon was slated to go anywhere from 7-14 last year.

In another thread I ruminated about how many lottery picks it would take for me to trade guys on our team. OG was 2. So, this makes some sense - if management likes a guy at 7, and like Keon, I could see this happening. But yeah, that's the minimum I would accept for OG. 2 lottery picks and a serviceable body. In this scenario we likely have to send back our 2nd rounder this year, but I'd consider it.


That makes sense. If you can get OG with the 7th pick in a weak draft you do that 10/10 times. Now if you are talking a top pick in a strong draft (i.e. top 4 pick in 2021), I think you take the gamble and take the pick over OG.

In a vacuum I agree that OG is worth 2 lottery picks or a high lottery pick and some other assets. If you add in some context that might change. For example, the Raptors have enough win now pieces it's not that straight forward. While you are getting a potential starter locked into a cheap contract for 4 years, with 8-9 years of control total (essentially), you are also spending 2-4 years minimum developing that player before they are even scratching their full potential. You do not want to wait more than a couple years when your top guys are 28 years old already and ready to win now (FVV and Pascal). That's what makes this a little more complicated. Are we trying to win it all in the next few years? Or can we wait 2-3 more until Scottie and the 7th pick are ready for prime playoff time?

The Warriors are one of the rare examples of competing for a championship while developing future starters drafted in the lottery. We should be so lucky to ever be in the position they are in currently.

On the flip side, a team like OKC will value that control way above the downside of needing 1-4 years to develop. I am sure they would love to OG as he is still fairly young, but to them the 7th pick probably has more value because they don't need to offer a big contract for 4 years. That is a much easier decision to make.
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Post#739 » by Bruin » Mon Jun 6, 2022 11:28 pm

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
Bruin wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:Hart + 7 (Daniels or Mathurin) + Keon Johnson.

That's the minimum haul I would believe. Some posters here are forgetting that Keon was slated to go anywhere from 7-14 last year.

That’s the minimum for me too. I’d like to potentially grab 36 from them too. Then we could package 33 and 36 to move up to the late teens or early 20s to maybe grab Tari Eason

Lol pipe dream yo.

Let me dream :lol:

we all know the reality is we’ll pay Fred a near max and build with what we have
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Post#740 » by Raps in 4 » Mon Jun 6, 2022 11:48 pm

Masai and co. seem committed to Precious as our C of the future. We aren't trading for Turner, Ayton, Gobert, etc. None of those guys move the needle for us.

I dont see us trading OG for picks either as he's already a producrive young player.

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