Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread II

youreachiteach · Post #721 » by **youreachiteach** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:42 pm

Suggs is such a weird player. He is "almost good" at everything. He is an almost good defender, scorer, facilitator, shooter...etc. Despite this I'd totally be down for this. Worst case scenario he is a strong defensive guard with some penetration ability. Best case he eventually becomes Derek White. If the picks are decent (even if they are somewhat protected) that's a yes.

Frankly, I'd rather their starting point guard (Fultz), but that ship has probably passed.

Syd-TK3 · Post #722 » by **Syd-TK3** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:47 pm

I'd gladly take the risk on suggs if he's available but I doubt he is

bboyskinnylegs · Post #723 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:49 pm

not a fan of Suggs, but if a deal includes the CHI 2023 pick or a future ORL first, sure why not.

Los_29 · Post #724 » by **Los_29** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:54 pm

AaronB wrote:
niQ wrote:
tanuki1031 wrote:Vernon and KOC proposing FVV for Suggs + filler + picks

HOOOOOOOOOO MAN

Interesting. Haven't heard the podcast yet but I do remember hearing Magic may be interested in FVV. Suggs was pretty good defensively before the injuries. Offensively, still a project.. .but.. so are all our players.

The Magic are really high on Suggs. He just shut down Harden last night.

Rightly or wrongly, as elite as the Raptors feel that OG is, the Magic feel that Suggs is more elite.

Shooting is an issue, but I don't think that the Magic are anywhere near giving up on him as an elite 2-way player.

There is no way the Magic feel Suggs is more elite than OG.

Tripod · Post #725 » by **Tripod** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:55 pm

C_Money wrote:
Yeezus_ wrote:
C_Money wrote:Bones Hyland! Get it done. They want a defensive forward in return and we just so happen to have way too many of those.

What's the fascination behind Hyland? He's awful defensively and sporadic on the other end. To me he seems like a solid bench player on a championship team since his defense will hold him back.

We need a scoring guard like him off the bench. That bench lineup that Nurse put in to start the 4th quarter yesterday was brutal.

As an example, if Flynn was instead Bones, our bench looks very different.

tdotrep2 · Post #726 » by **tdotrep2** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:57 pm

suggs became underrated

DelAbbot · Post #727 » by **DelAbbot** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 10:58 pm

JShuttlesworth wrote:Get ready fam, there are going to be dark days ahead

tWo has been ready since Tampa

Tripod · Post #728 » by **Tripod** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:06 pm

tanuki1031 wrote:Vernon and KOC proposing FVV for Suggs + filler + picks

HOOOOOOOOOO MAN

Suggs: big PG who still has upside

Bamba: 7 footer who can hit a 3 and gives Koloko another year of development time

Picks: unlikely they ever trade a 1st...but they have Chicago's this year, Denver in the future.
But even a 2nd rounder this year, the Raps might really like....grab 1st rd talent with a 2nd rd pick and only have to pay them 2nd rd money. Call it "the Koloko"

Orlando knowing that other teams want him only helps our return.

HumbleRen · Post #729 » by **HumbleRen** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:19 pm

I don't see Magic moving off of Suggs and picks for FVV.

Suggs is going to be an elite defender at his position for years to come. His POA defence is absolutely insane.

JShuttlesworth · Post #730 » by **JShuttlesworth** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:27 pm

DelAbbot wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:Get ready fam, there are going to be dark days ahead
tWo has been ready since Tampa

We'd be half way through the rebuild by now

HumbleRen · Post #731 » by **HumbleRen** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:29 pm

JShuttlesworth wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:Get ready fam, there are going to be dark days ahead
tWo has been ready since Tampa

We'd be half way through the rebuild by now

Ben Mathurin, Scottie, and whatever top 5 pick we ended up with this year ..

It could of been all so simple.

Agimat · Post #732 » by **Agimat** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:33 pm

JShuttlesworth wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:Get ready fam, there are going to be dark days ahead
tWo has been ready since Tampa

We'd be half way through the rebuild by now

I remember some people called it a "success"

Success on what?!

Try-hard season at best

mtcan · Post #733 » by **mtcan** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:42 pm

HumbleRen wrote:I don't see Magic moving off of Suggs and picks for FVV.

Suggs is going to be an elite defender at his position for years to come. His POA defence is absolutely insane.

The Magic already have Markelle Fultz, Cole Anthony and Jalen Suggs. If they are getting Fred...I imagine they are trading one or two of those guards. I'm not sure what that looks like for them.

I do like Fultz. He is turning out to be a very capable point guard. If the organization is sure that he is over his past injuries...could be a solid starter for us.

The Magic also have a glut of tall forwards. I thought they were good already with Banchero, Wagner, Bol, Carter and Bamba. Now they also have Jonathan Isaac. I can't see all of these guys getting significant minutes to all be happy. They gotta move one or two of them as well.

DelAbbot · Post #734 » by **DelAbbot** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:45 pm

Agimat wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:tWo has been ready since Tampa

We'd be half way through the rebuild by now

I remember some people called it a "success"

Success on what?!

Try-hard season at best

I remember that post. Pompous posts get upvotes.

Tor_Raps · Post #735 » by **Tor_Raps** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:51 pm

If we can get Suggs + filler for Fred, I'd make that trade yesterday. Let the young guys grow this year while tanking and we could be amazing as soon as next year.

Suggs + Barnes + Siakam + Top 5 2023 Draft pick is a great core to start with. Now that's assuming Masai doesn't botch it by doing stupidness like the 6'9 experiment.

This doesn't even count whatever we could get in return for OG/Trent. Heck, I'd try to keep one of those guys if possible.

Rodrickle · Post #736 » by **Rodrickle** » Wed Feb 1, 2023 1:16 am

ImaBeatDatAzz wrote:hear me out yall, i know u dont like ayton but what if they give us ayton and bridges for fvv and og, this way they can trade cp3 and build a solid roster

barnes
trent
bridges
siakam
ayton

i likee that but i dont know if they say ya :/

They wouldnt trade Bridges for KD. We should get Cam for that package though

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pilkoids · Post #737 » by **pilkoids** » Wed Feb 1, 2023 1:18 am

I have this quesy feeling that Fred's going to be here past the deadline

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Rodrickle · Post #738 » by **Rodrickle** » Wed Feb 1, 2023 1:23 am

Raptors_128 wrote:Can we expand the deal to get Ayton?

Raps get: Ayton + Johnson + 2025 Suns 1st unprotected + 2027 Suns 1st unprotected
Suns get: FVV + OG + Poeltl
Spurs get: Saric + 2023 Suns 1st + 2023 Raps 2nd (currently 36th overall)

Seems pretty fair all around. This does seem like a win now move, but also leaves us without a point guard/reliable ball handler. Don't think Barnes and Siakam can handle ball pressure well enough to be a primary ball handler without turnovers. Maybe flip Trent or Johnson for a point guard like Quickley plus filler?

Quickley
Cam Johnson
Barnes
Siakam
Ayton

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ImaBeatDatAzz · Post #739 » by **ImaBeatDatAzz** » Wed Feb 1, 2023 1:42 am

i like a 3 team with suns and spurs, we take ayton johnson 2 unprotected firsts, suns get fvv og poeltl, spurs get saric a 1st and a 2nd

see what this lineup can do for us next season:
Barnes
Trent
Cam Johnson
Siakam
Ayton

Bench: lottery pick, precious, boucher, thad, banton

Madhouse · Post #740 » by **Madhouse** » Wed Feb 1, 2023 1:45 am

HumbleRen wrote:
JShuttlesworth wrote:
DelAbbot wrote:tWo has been ready since Tampa

We'd be half way through the rebuild by now

Ben Mathurin, Scottie, and whatever top 5 pick we ended up with this year ..

It could of been all so simple.

This is very painful to realize.