Portland #3 trade rumors part 2

[Madvillainy2004]

I really don't think Zion is top 10 with his lack of shooting and 0 impact on the defensive end (so far). He's in the top 15 range and has potential but his injury issues are bigger than Currys by a lot (curry basically missed 75% of his sophomore year but played 70+ till 17-18). And Curry has shown effort in improving his body that Zion has never shown and 4 years in his FO has cold feet cause he can't play. We're going into year 5 and Zion has played 114 games. One deep playoff run you're pushing 85+ games total even with heavy load management. Siakam has availability and with Dames injury concerns idk if they can risk the fragility of a Zion/Dame team. Until proven otherwise "Healthy Zion" may as well be a damn unicorn.

Unicorn is how u win in this league. Kawhi being able to play the entire post season was that dang unicorn for us.

And kawhi barely got over the finish line and was a proven top 5 player before that as well. All I'm saying is thinking zion can basically play 85% of tbe games he's played in the NBA for a full season isn't exactly inspiring and I'm not sure he's good enough to warrant it. He's never played a post season game before and has missed every important game his team has played since he entered the league.

[Jadoogar]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/272011/Blazers-Trying-To-Trade-For-Bam-Adebayo

The Portland Trail Blazers are pursuing a trade with the Miami Heat for Bam Adebayo, a source tells Jake Fischer of Yahoo Sports.
....

The Heat are unlikely to consider any approach from the Blazers unless it includes Shaedon Sharpe, the No. 3 pick and Anfernee Simons.

The Blazers don't reportedly covet either Pascal Siakam or OG Anunoby with the No. 3 pick. Adebayo and Paul George are the types of targets the Blazers would deem worthy with the pick.

okay.

That’s a smokescreen if I’ve ever seen one

you're not getting Bam with #3 considering his age and contract.
Paul George might be attainable but why would you want him? At his peak, he's better than Siakam but is he going to play? Not to mention older and paid more

[gbball]

Raptors are royally screwed lmao

Why?

Poeltl doesn't want to stick around for a rebuild, Fred is probably gonna walk, Portland doesn't covet OG or Siakam for the #3 pick, all probably forcing the front office to run back a team that's destined for mediocrity.

I'm of the belief that we underperformed under Nurse, so I'm not as doom and gloom as others. I like our team, and I think we'll be solid if we run it back. I also think we'll still be fine if we don't bring back Fred. There is a lot of untapped potential on our bench that Nurse wasn't able to utilize properly. I expect our bench performance to be better next year and Philadelphia's to be worse.

We should resign Poeltl, but I think it would be a mistake to blow things up. We're not trading Siakam or OG from a position of weakness. They both are happy in Toronto. Both are willing to resign. If someone really wants one of them and blows us away with an offer we'll make a trade.

Not a bad position at all objectively speaking.

[Bruin]

Lol highly doubt it

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[Kordic27]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/272011/Blazers-Trying-To-Trade-For-Bam-Adebayo



okay.

That’s a smokescreen if I’ve ever seen one

you're not getting Bam with #3 considering his age and contract.
Paul George might be attainable but why would you want him? At his peak, he's better than Siakam but is he going to play? Not to mention older and paid more

I'd have to imagine that the BAM offer would be #3, Simons, and Sharp (maybe plus a future 1st?), while the George offer would have to be just #3 and filler (which I don't think is a good deal for Portland given, as you mention, George's injury history/age/contract).

[MiamiSPX]

There is a lot of untapped potential on our bench that Nurse wasn't able to utilize properly. I expect our bench performance to be better next year and Philadelphia's to be worse.

Who? Where?

[Tor_Raps]

Lol highly doubt it

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Why would you doubt that? You're not doing your job if you're not checking every possible avenue even if it's unlikely.

Fred and Trents contract will probably equal Beals and gimme Beal over them all day everyday. Suns got the man for free practically lol.

[Spida888]

I don't think the Heat will entertain to trade Bam when they just made it to the finals and he was huge for them defensively. They rather trade for Dame than that #3 pick.

Paul George is better than Pascal, but he's always injured and not reliable. It didn't help Pascal/OG trade value losing in the play-in in the fashion that they did.

[alpngso]

Jody Allen and the Blazers never spent and invested a ton in the team. She is perfectly content on being mediocre because the team value will only go up based on the NBA business model. People usually overlook the owner part when talking about team building but that has to factor in as well.

Blazers will pick at #3 and Dame will be leaving the Blazers.

[gbball]

There is a lot of untapped potential on our bench that Nurse wasn't able to utilize properly. I expect our bench performance to be better next year and Philadelphia's to be worse.

Who? Where?

Flynn, Harper Jr., Dowtin, Banton, Koloko, Precious, Boucher, Trent (if he's back), Rookie (hopefully Coulibaly) , Weiskamp.

I like Flynn more than most, and I think he and Banton weren't played to their strengths. I also think you can play both together.

[Purple+Black]

Jody Allen and the Blazers never spent and invested a ton in the team. She perfectly content on being mediocre because the team value will only go up based on the NBA business model. People usually overlook the owner part when talking about team building but that has to factor in as well.

Blazers will pick at #3 and Dame will be leaving the Blazers.

I don’t know about this - there’s a ton of smoke coming from Portland, that to me indicates that there is some desperation setting in.

I think Masai hasn’t budged on the #3, Sharpe, Simons asking price for Pascal and Portland wants to do the deal with #3, Simons, #23 — hence the constant smoke.

That is the area where Masai is comfortable and likes to operate so I’m happy with these developments.

[TravisScott55]

Why?

Poeltl doesn't want to stick around for a rebuild, Fred is probably gonna walk, Portland doesn't covet OG or Siakam for the #3 pick, all probably forcing the front office to run back a team that's destined for mediocrity.

I'm of the belief that we underperformed under Nurse, so I'm not as doom and gloom as others. I like our team, and I think we'll be solid if we run it back. I also think we'll still be fine if we don't bring back Fred. There is a lot of untapped potential on our bench that Nurse wasn't able to utilize properly. I expect our bench performance to be better next year and Philadelphia's to be worse.

We should resign Poeltl, but I think it would be a mistake to blow things up. We're not trading Siakam or OG from a position of weakness. They both are happy in Toronto. Both are willing to resign. If someone really wants one of them and blows us away with an offer we'll make a trade.

Not a bad position at all objectively speaking.

This teams ceiling is 7 seed

[gbball]

Poeltl doesn't want to stick around for a rebuild, Fred is probably gonna walk, Portland doesn't covet OG or Siakam for the #3 pick, all probably forcing the front office to run back a team that's destined for mediocrity.

I'm of the belief that we underperformed under Nurse, so I'm not as doom and gloom as others. I like our team, and I think we'll be solid if we run it back. I also think we'll still be fine if we don't bring back Fred. There is a lot of untapped potential on our bench that Nurse wasn't able to utilize properly. I expect our bench performance to be better next year and Philadelphia's to be worse.

We should resign Poeltl, but I think it would be a mistake to blow things up. We're not trading Siakam or OG from a position of weakness. They both are happy in Toronto. Both are willing to resign. If someone really wants one of them and blows us away with an offer we'll make a trade.

Not a bad position at all objectively speaking.

This teams ceiling is 7 seed

Agree to disagree.

[Ackshun]

There is a lot of untapped potential on our bench that Nurse wasn't able to utilize properly. I expect our bench performance to be better next year and Philadelphia's to be worse.

Who? Where?

Flynn, Harper Jr., Dowtin, Banton, Koloko, Precious, Boucher, Trent (if he's back), Rookie (hopefully Coulibaly) , Weiskamp.

I like Flynn more than most, and I think he and Banton weren't played to their strengths. I also think you can play both together.

Bobby is that you ?

Bench is trash .

[Ackshun]

Jody Allen and the Blazers never spent and invested a ton in the team. She perfectly content on being mediocre because the team value will only go up based on the NBA business model. People usually overlook the owner part when talking about team building but that has to factor in as well.

Blazers will pick at #3 and Dame will be leaving the Blazers.

I don’t know about this - there’s a ton of smoke coming from Portland, that to me indicates that there is some desperation setting in.

I think Masai hasn’t budged on the #3, Sharpe, Simons asking price for Pascal and Portland wants to do the deal with #3, Simons, #23 — hence the constant smoke.

That is the area where Masai is comfortable and likes to operate so I’m happy with these developments.

It’s too much for Pascal.

So when Portland finds a more serious trading partner and moves on from Pascal, then what ? Run it back because we wanted to rob Portland ?

There is negotiating and then there is negotiating in good faith.

[ForeverTFC]

Jody Allen and the Blazers never spent and invested a ton in the team. She is perfectly content on being mediocre because the team value will only go up based on the NBA business model. People usually overlook the owner part when talking about team building but that has to factor in as well.

Blazers will pick at #3 and Dame will be leaving the Blazers.

I’m pretty sure proceeds for the sale of the Blazers is going to Paul Allen’s foundation but might be mistaken.

[gbball]

Truthfully, we can't say anything for sure until we see how they play under the new coach. If he's smart and it seems like he is, and if players buy in to what he's selling, and he develops strategies that benefit all our players, then we'll perform to our potential.

There are still a lot of question marks there. But, I believe, this team, playing to it's potential is good enough to compete for the 3rd seed in the East and make the 2nd round of the playoffs. I've felt that way for the last 2 years...and I've been really frustrated because while our offense was bad, it wasn't the main reason we were losing. It was our defensive approach that was killing us...along with poor game/and minutes management. We made the game harder than it had to be, which was largely a result of a tactical miscalculation from the coaching staff.

[Duffman100]

Jody Allen and the Blazers never spent and invested a ton in the team. She perfectly content on being mediocre because the team value will only go up based on the NBA business model. People usually overlook the owner part when talking about team building but that has to factor in as well.

Blazers will pick at #3 and Dame will be leaving the Blazers.

I don’t know about this - there’s a ton of smoke coming from Portland, that to me indicates that there is some desperation setting in.

I think Masai hasn’t budged on the #3, Sharpe, Simons asking price for Pascal and Portland wants to do the deal with #3, Simons, #23 — hence the constant smoke.

That is the area where Masai is comfortable and likes to operate so I’m happy with these developments.

It’s too much for Pascal.

So when Portland finds a more serious trading partner and moves on from Pascal, then what ? Run it back because we wanted to rob Portland ?

There is negotiating and then there is negotiating in good faith.

It's equally possible that Portland isn't negotiating in good faith.

[JRoy]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/272011/Blazers-Trying-To-Trade-For-Bam-Adebayo



okay.

That’s a smokescreen if I’ve ever seen one

you're not getting Bam with #3 considering his age and contract.
Paul George might be attainable but why would you want him? At his peak, he's better than Siakam but is he going to play? Not to mention older and paid more

I would much rather go for PG or Adebayo and strike out than Siakam/OG.

I don’t think the POR FO gets either preferred choice and hopefully folds for the rebuild.

[gbball]

I don’t know about this - there’s a ton of smoke coming from Portland, that to me indicates that there is some desperation setting in.

I think Masai hasn’t budged on the #3, Sharpe, Simons asking price for Pascal and Portland wants to do the deal with #3, Simons, #23 — hence the constant smoke.

That is the area where Masai is comfortable and likes to operate so I’m happy with these developments.

It’s too much for Pascal.

So when Portland finds a more serious trading partner and moves on from Pascal, then what ? Run it back because we wanted to rob Portland ?

There is negotiating and then there is negotiating in good faith.

It's equally possible that Portland isn't negotiating in good faith.

Is keeping a good player in Siakam really the end of the world like some are making it out to be? I'm open to moving him, and I'd even do something like Sharpe, 23, Simons, Keon. But the reality, is if we don't trade him, we just keep him and maybe he gets better.