2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

[Johnston]

If we keep our pick it's Cody Williams or Tidjane Salaun as my preferred prospects.

Salaun passes the eye test for me. With the later pick I really like Kevin Mccullar Jr.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

DRTG ranking of all the teams Cody Williams has gone up against this year:

139th (4 pts in 28 mins, 1-4 FG)
346th
35th (6 pts in 32 mins, no FT trips)
127th (turned ball over 5 times, good from 2 bad from 3 and FT line)
218th
153rd (solid game offensively against C-State can't complain but outlier stats sorely lacking this game)
292nd
303rd
236th
189th (solid game but 1 FT trip in 33 mins, keeping in mind 189th is in bottom half nationally)
234th
246th

Not a knock on his NBA potential just something to be aware of regarding his hyperinflated shooting percentages. If he had better outlier stats I'd feel a lot better about the overall package. Still, he has a pretty solid floor as a player because of his movement skills and feel for the game which are evident. I see some Trey Murphy III there.

[WuTang_CMB]

the more guys that come up the better

I think the hype will come around once workouts start

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[WuTang_CMB]

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[Yallbecrazy]

The 2024 draft is an absolute dumpster fire compared to 2025 and anyone who remotely cares about the success of the franchise should be praying we land outside of the top 6 this year so that we retain our 2025 1st round selection as there are multiple players with clear franchise-changing ceilings. I would go as far as retaining GTJ, Bruce Brown and Boucher so as to maximize our depth for the remainder of the season and our chances of winning the greatest amount of games even if it means losing GTJ for nothing and getting a lesser return on the other two during their final seasons under contract, just so that we can be in better position to retain our 2025 selection.

Masai's wet dream African prospect is within reach if that happens and I would actually endorse the selection as I believe Khaman Maluach will end up going 1-2 with Cooper Flagg next year. I also think that if Maluach commits to Duke they win the national title in 2025. He is an extraordinary young big who has good mental makeup with elite size and athleticism, has a chance to be equally great as a power and finesse player as well as a transition and halfcourt player and who comes equipped with a 3 point shot. His footwork looks great and he runs the floor like a gazelle and can handle the ball at high speeds while bullying people inside and on the glass and he has touch around the rim. Almost insignificantly small sample sizes but between last year and this year he shot 37% from downtown and 76% from the stripe.

He's listed at 7'2 231 but he's not even 17.5 years old yet.

Meanwhile a guy like Ja'Kobe Walter is mocked top 5 yet V.J. Edgecombe looks like a vastly superior prospect. Walter is shooting 35.7% (25% from 3) in 5 games of conference play so far. Interestingly enough Edgecombe committed to Baylor and I'm confident he is going to outperform Walter in terms of stocks, base FG%, AST/TO and FTR. Maybe even in other areas if he starts to harness his superior athleticism and apply it between now and the end of his freshman college season.

As far as the other areas of the draft where the Raptors have selections I would probably retain the Pacers' 1st and the Pistons 2nd and move the other pick. It's still too early to figure out where the Pacers' pick will land but with the Pistons' I'd look at some older guys you can lock up to favorable 4 year deals like K.J. Simpson since the freshman/soph class at that point is really bad.

You don't seem to understand how draft protection works.

If we keep the pick this year because we ended up top 6, that doesn't mean we lose top 6 protection next year. This isn't Mario Kart where you lose the shield after taking a shell.

We keep this year, and keep next year if we are lucky enough to win a top 2 spot in the lottery. If Flagg and Khaman are as advertised, we will STILL be able to draft them.

This draft has a lot more intriguing prospects than last year's after the top 2.
Next year has talent at the top right now, where this one doesn't. After the top no one knows who will be good after that. Top HS guys become crap in college when the competition gets tougher and other guys emerge from nowhere. It happens all the time.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

The 2024 draft is an absolute dumpster fire compared to 2025 and anyone who remotely cares about the success of the franchise should be praying we land outside of the top 6 this year so that we retain our 2025 1st round selection as there are multiple players with clear franchise-changing ceilings. I would go as far as retaining GTJ, Bruce Brown and Boucher so as to maximize our depth for the remainder of the season and our chances of winning the greatest amount of games even if it means losing GTJ for nothing and getting a lesser return on the other two during their final seasons under contract, just so that we can be in better position to retain our 2025 selection.

Masai's wet dream African prospect is within reach if that happens and I would actually endorse the selection as I believe Khaman Maluach will end up going 1-2 with Cooper Flagg next year. I also think that if Maluach commits to Duke they win the national title in 2025. He is an extraordinary young big who has good mental makeup with elite size and athleticism, has a chance to be equally great as a power and finesse player as well as a transition and halfcourt player and who comes equipped with a 3 point shot. His footwork looks great and he runs the floor like a gazelle and can handle the ball at high speeds while bullying people inside and on the glass and he has touch around the rim. Almost insignificantly small sample sizes but between last year and this year he shot 37% from downtown and 76% from the stripe.

He's listed at 7'2 231 but he's not even 17.5 years old yet.

Meanwhile a guy like Ja'Kobe Walter is mocked top 5 yet V.J. Edgecombe looks like a vastly superior prospect. Walter is shooting 35.7% (25% from 3) in 5 games of conference play so far. Interestingly enough Edgecombe committed to Baylor and I'm confident he is going to outperform Walter in terms of stocks, base FG%, AST/TO and FTR. Maybe even in other areas if he starts to harness his superior athleticism and apply it between now and the end of his freshman college season.

As far as the other areas of the draft where the Raptors have selections I would probably retain the Pacers' 1st and the Pistons 2nd and move the other pick. It's still too early to figure out where the Pacers' pick will land but with the Pistons' I'd look at some older guys you can lock up to favorable 4 year deals like K.J. Simpson since the freshman/soph class at that point is really bad.

You don't seem to understand how draft protection works.

If we keep the pick this year because we ended up top 6, that doesn't mean we lose top 6 protection next year. This isn't Mario Kart where you lose the shield after taking a shell.

We keep this year, and keep next year if we are lucky enough to win a top 2 spot in the lottery. If Flagg and Khaman are as advertised, we will STILL be able to draft them.

This draft has a lot more intriguing prospects than last year's after the top 2.
Next year has talent at the top right now, where this one doesn't. After the top no one knows who will be good after that. Top HS guys become crap in college when the competition gets tougher and other guys emerge from nowhere. It happens all the time.

I'm just not impressed at all by the 2024 class so far, seeing way too many red flags in projected 1st round players and beyond. Stephon Castle does everything you want but I don't see his shot ever being fixed unlike Anthony Black's last year. Yves Missi bangs in the paint and gets to the line a ton but he's an abysmal shooter there so it negates the value of his FTR and he's gonna be over 20 on draft night already. Collier is just a huge bum. Buzelis processes the game way slower than the hype around him would have you believe. I can go on and on about a ton of players, I don't see 2025 having nearly as many players in the 1st round pool with major question marks or holes in their games as 2024.

[RoteSchroder]

This kid is interesting, just turned 18 Dec 30th. I need to see more, could be in play with our late 1st/Detroit pick.
Seems like there are some good prospects at center in this draft

Doubt he makes it that far. Some team is gonna take a chance on the upside. May not even make it to the Indiana pick.

I think OKC will take with the Houston or Utah pick. They can take one high floor player and one high upside player. It's a great fit too. Imagine a 3 + D monster beside Chet.

[alevirfe]

with the 6th worst record (currently), we have a 54.2% chance of giving up our FRP to the Spurs

5th worst record: 36% chance of giving up our pick
4th worst record: 19% chance of giving up our pick
3rd worst record: 7% chance of giving up our pick
1st/2nd worst: 0%

[Mark_83]

An interesting player who caught my eye is French C/PF Zacharie Perrin. I believe he's technically eligible to enter this draft if he wants as an international player but he's currently committed to play with Illinois next year. Strong, skilled big man with great feel and vision. Reminds me a lot of Scottie so not sure he really fits for us but he's a a lot of fun to watch

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/34156963/french-men-basketball-prospect-zacharie-perrin-commits-illinois-fighting-illini

The 6-foot-11, 220 pound, 17-year-old Perrin is considered one of the most promising European prospects committing to the college route in the class of 2022. A late bloomer who stood only 6-foot-4 in 2019, he was almost a complete unknown before earning a surprise place on the French U18 national team at last summer's European Championship as a 16-year-old, where he emerged as one of the team's best scorers and rebounders.

Perrin was named MVP of the Adidas Next Generation qualifying tournament in Patras, Greece this past April, after posting 17.7 points and 10.7 rebounds in 31 minutes per game. He was later called up to the Next Generation All-Star Team at the Euroleague Final Four in Belgrade, Serbia, in May, posting 10 points and 5.8 rebounds in 23 minutes per game. He spent this past season playing for Antibes in the French Espoirs Pro B league, where he was named MVP after posting 21.5 points, 10.9 rebounds, 2.7 assists and 1.5 steals in 30 minutes per game, converting 68% of his 2-point attempts and 26% of his 3-point attempts in 24 games.

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[Kevin Willis]

The 2024 draft is an absolute dumpster fire compared to 2025 and anyone who remotely cares about the success of the franchise should be praying we land outside of the top 6 this year so that we retain our 2025 1st round selection as there are multiple players with clear franchise-changing ceilings. I would go as far as retaining GTJ, Bruce Brown and Boucher so as to maximize our depth for the remainder of the season and our chances of winning the greatest amount of games even if it means losing GTJ for nothing and getting a lesser return on the other two during their final seasons under contract, just so that we can be in better position to retain our 2025 selection.

Masai's wet dream African prospect is within reach if that happens and I would actually endorse the selection as I believe Khaman Maluach will end up going 1-2 with Cooper Flagg next year. I also think that if Maluach commits to Duke they win the national title in 2025. He is an extraordinary young big who has good mental makeup with elite size and athleticism, has a chance to be equally great as a power and finesse player as well as a transition and halfcourt player and who comes equipped with a 3 point shot. His footwork looks great and he runs the floor like a gazelle and can handle the ball at high speeds while bullying people inside and on the glass and he has touch around the rim. Almost insignificantly small sample sizes but between last year and this year he shot 37% from downtown and 76% from the stripe.

He's listed at 7'2 231 but he's not even 17.5 years old yet.

Meanwhile a guy like Ja'Kobe Walter is mocked top 5 yet V.J. Edgecombe looks like a vastly superior prospect. Walter is shooting 35.7% (25% from 3) in 5 games of conference play so far. Interestingly enough Edgecombe committed to Baylor and I'm confident he is going to outperform Walter in terms of stocks, base FG%, AST/TO and FTR. Maybe even in other areas if he starts to harness his superior athleticism and apply it between now and the end of his freshman college season.

As far as the other areas of the draft where the Raptors have selections I would probably retain the Pacers' 1st and the Pistons 2nd and move the other pick. It's still too early to figure out where the Pacers' pick will land but with the Pistons' I'd look at some older guys you can lock up to favorable 4 year deals like K.J. Simpson since the freshman/soph class at that point is really bad.

You don't seem to understand how draft protection works.

If we keep the pick this year because we ended up top 6, that doesn't mean we lose top 6 protection next year. This isn't Mario Kart where you lose the shield after taking a shell.

We keep this year, and keep next year if we are lucky enough to win a top 2 spot in the lottery. If Flagg and Khaman are as advertised, we will STILL be able to draft them.

Thank you for explaining.

The exact terms are - Spurs receive Raptors 2024 first round pick (top 6 protected in 2024-2026 or 2026 and 2027 second round pick). It's well protected, they may never get our first round pick but we hope that's not the case of course because that means we would suck for awhile.

[PhilBlackson]

We’re tanking for Tidj.

You don’t have to squint too long to see what Masai likely reminds him of a certain somebody….

Of course he’s not quite the physical beast Giannis is (and no one is) but physically some of that’s there and showing potential to shoot from 3…it’s not coincidence he had to go see with his own eyes. He’s loading up in this draft to move up just in case :p . I’m NOT saying he will be the level of player obviously but I do think he’s likely seeing some physical resemblance and imagining what they can do if they develop him.

Even though I also really like all of Sarr, Zach R & Big Z. I honestly think Masai wants a shot to get TS. I admit I’m probably reaching saying he wants extra picks just to ensure he can move up lol (I’m sure it’s more in mind with a future trade) but I’m sure it’s in the back of his mind to have extras just in case they want to move up. But it’s very easy to see where Masai may already know who they want.

[Bruin]

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[Rapsfan07]

If we keep our own pick, I have:

1. Williams
2. Risacher
3. Sheppard
4. Dillingham

In the middle of draft, I have:
1. Ware/McCullar
2. McCullar/Ware
3. Salaun

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Masai's already made him a promise.

[Bruin]

Salaun having himself a nice game right now too. 13 on 5/8 FG (3/4 from deep) at halftime

[Mark_83]

Gotta give some love to Melvin Adjinca. His ranking is currently in flux but he'd be a great pick in the late 1st as an athletic 3 + D wing. Wouldn't be against taking two Frenchmen in Salaun and Ajinca if they're BPA. The French National Team is going to be fire in the next few years with Wemby, Gobert et all.

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[PhilBlackson]

If we keep our own pick, I have:

1. Williams
2. Risacher
3. Sheppard
4. Dillingham

In the middle of draft, I have:
1. Ware/McCullar
2. McCullar/Ware
3. Salaun

I'm not hyping my top 3 but I do really like the potential of any of them that I think we could make them a star but admit-tingly they'll all need a lot of development.

If we keep our own pick, I have:

1. Salaun (I can see the physical tools that Masai & them clearly see too)
2/3. Risacher/Sarr (these 2 are just very slightly under TS - actually really like Zach)
4. Big Z* (I put an asterisks because I need to see him continue to show what he did in that 1st game but was that impressed lol)
5. Holland (he seems a lock to at least be a solid player)

I do like Williams, I just like those guys ahead of him. I'll be extremely happy with any of TS, ZR or Sarr.

In the middle of draft, I have:
1. Chomche (I like another upside swing)
2. Ware
3. Tyler Smith

[Bruin]

Salaun having himself a nice game right now too. 13 on 5/8 FG (3/4 from deep) at halftime

Finished with 20p, 4r on 8/14 FG with 4/8 from 3 in a W

I also think Masai has his eyes set on Tidjane. We made the Siakam trade the day after Masai was spotted in France to watch him in person. The kid perfectly fits the MO of what Masai likes in a prospect. The combination of length and athleticism along with the flashes of shooting potential makes him perfect for Masai

[Mark_83]

Salaun having himself a nice game right now too. 13 on 5/8 FG (3/4 from deep) at halftime

Finished with 20p, 4r on 8/14 FG with 4/8 from 3 in a W

I also think Masai has his eyes set on Tidjane. We made the Siakam trade the day after Masai was spotted in France to watch him in person. The kid perfectly fits the MO of what Masai likes in a prospect. The combination of length and athleticism along with the flashes of shooting potential makes him perfect for Masai

I've been saying it for a while. We might have to take him at 6 if he keeps rising, which explains why Masai has gone into stealth tank mode since he went to France.

6) Salaun
18) Ivisic
28) Ajinca
31) Chomche/Poplar

[Kevin Willis]

If Knecht is long, he might be worth a look with one of our other picks. He's a scorer, he might have a Jaime impact.