What to do with Bruce Brown

[bballsparkin]

If you check Bruce's IG, he just posted a Chris brown "Say Goodbye" video clip and a picture of him lifting up a hand as if to say goodbye on his Story.

HE.GONE.

lol, he just can't wait to get out of here.

[Mak]

Knicks trade makes a lot of sense for Fournier.

Brown for Fournier makes too much sense not to happen, right?

It is just a matter of which pick we are asking for. These are the picks that I would take, any of them is fine:

2024
Dallas top 10 protected
Their own pick

2025
Bucks top 4
Their own pick

2026
Their own pick


Picks I don't want

2024
Pistons protected 1-18
Wizards protected 1-12

Dallas 2024 pick might be the best pick in terms of position and value? Knicks were saving those picks for a trade for a big star but maybe now this will be the final move. Pistons and Wizards picks probably have little to no value since they are likely to convey into seconds many years from now.

[Raptorfan2012]

Knicks trade makes a lot of sense for Fournier.

Brown for Fournier makes too much sense not to happen, right?

It is just a matter of which pick we are asking for. These are the picks that I would take, any of them is fine:

2024
Dallas top 10 protected
Their own pick

2025
Bucks top 4
Their own pick

2026
Their own pick


Picks I don't want

2024
Pistons protected 1-18
Wizards protected 1-12

Dallas 2024 pick might be the best pick in terms of position and value? Knicks were saving those picks for a trade for a big star but maybe now this will be the final move. Pistons and Wizards picks probably have little to no value since they are likely to convey into seconds many years from now.

I don't want Fournier and just a pick for Brown. Grimes has to come back or we look elsewhere.

[gerrit4]

Knicks trade makes a lot of sense for Fournier.

Brown for Fournier makes too much sense not to happen, right?

It is just a matter of which pick we are asking for. These are the picks that I would take, any of them is fine:

2024
Dallas top 10 protected
Their own pick

2025
Bucks top 4
Their own pick

2026
Their own pick


Picks I don't want

2024
Pistons protected 1-18
Wizards protected 1-12

Dallas 2024 pick might be the best pick in terms of position and value? Knicks were saving those picks for a trade for a big star but maybe now this will be the final move. Pistons and Wizards picks probably have little to no value since they are likely to convey into seconds many years from now.

Yeah, that's interesting for sure. To me, I'd want one of the 2025 or 2026 picks.

I'd also be interested in swap rights for 2024, as we know this front office doesn't want what could be a 5th pick in this draft.

For example, I'd consider a trade built around:

Brown for Fournier plus the ability to swap our worst 2024 pick (the OKC/Houston/Clippers/Utah pick) with the better pick of either the Mavs pick or Knicks pick, as well as a bunch of future 2nds. That would probably bump up our pick 8-10 spots, and maybe we could even get Grimes included if the Knicks are getting a first back in the deal.

[bboyskinnylegs]

Houston could be interesting if they're willing to give up one the Nets picks they own.

[WuTang_CMB]

I would take NY's 25' pick if I had to choose. Better draft, probably lands in 20's.

[Dalek]

Knicks are up 62-41 at the half vs Denver. Things are going extremely well with OG, so why make another trade right now and risk things going different like with Pascal. Gotta what for a losing streak or the deadline.

Denver was playing its last road game after a long stretch. It happens over an NBA season. NY still needs a stronger SG to help Brunson with scoring and defense. It has to be Murray or Brown.

Knicks had a good victory but their record is based mostly off sub 500 teams. Plus, if they want to be serious they have to be ready for Boston and Milwaukee who are next tier teams.

[Mr. Perfect]

Let's get a package going to the Mavs, give them both Poeltl and Bruce Brown (or can Brown only be traded on his own?). I want back Lively + Josh Green + filler contracts. They don't have any picks to trade anyways. They're reeling right now, they're going to want to make a move or two before the deadline, pressure's on.

[Rapsfan07]

I would take NY's 25' pick if I had to choose. Better draft, probably lands in 20's.

100%

[Rapsfan07]

Let's get a package going to the Mavs, give them both Poeltl and Bruce Brown (or can Brown only be traded on his own?). I want back Lively + Josh Green + filler contracts. They don't have any picks to trade anyways. They're reeling right now, they're going to want to make a move or two before the deadline, pressure's on.

Brown can only be dealt on his own.

[ForeverTFC]

I would take NY's 25' pick if I had to choose. Better draft, probably lands in 20's.

100%. What the hell are we going to do with 4-5 picks in one of the worst drafts of all time.

[mtcan]

I would take NY's 25' pick if I had to choose. Better draft, probably lands in 20's.

100%. What the hell are we going to do with 4-5 picks in one of the worst drafts of all time.

Massive did say several times during his media availability last week that he doesn't expect to use all the picks in June. My guess is that he uses the 2 late first round picks to move up to the mid first round.

[ForeverTFC]

I would take NY's 25' pick if I had to choose. Better draft, probably lands in 20's.

100%. What the hell are we going to do with 4-5 picks in one of the worst drafts of all time.

Massive did say several times during his media availability last week that he doesn't expect to use all the picks in June. My guess is that he uses the 2 late first round picks to move up to the mid first round.

Sure, but if the draft is that bad, why would someone swap a pick for 2 picks later in the round? I hope he finds a way to consolidate as well but i still would much rather any other pick we get back is 25 or later.

[WuTang_CMB]

I would take NY's 25' pick if I had to choose. Better draft, probably lands in 20's.

100%. What the hell are we going to do with 4-5 picks in one of the worst drafts of all time.

Even if they dont get another 24' pick from Brown, I highly doubt they use all of them

[mtcan]

100%. What the hell are we going to do with 4-5 picks in one of the worst drafts of all time.

Massive did say several times during his media availability last week that he doesn't expect to use all the picks in June. My guess is that he uses the 2 late first round picks to move up to the mid first round.

Sure, but if the draft is that bad, why would someone swap a pick for 2 picks later in the round? I hope he finds a way to consolidate as well but i still would much rather any other pick we get back is 25 or later.

With the new tax aprons, there will always a need to add talent on controllable contracts.

And I don't buy the comments about this draft being weak. It is considered weak until years later when an all-NBA player or two emerges. Not saying that will happen for sure but it really is too early to tell.

[ArthurVandelay]

100%. What the hell are we going to do with 4-5 picks in one of the worst drafts of all time.

Massive did say several times during his media availability last week that he doesn't expect to use all the picks in June. My guess is that he uses the 2 late first round picks to move up to the mid first round.

Sure, but if the draft is that bad, why would someone swap a pick for 2 picks later in the round? I hope he finds a way to consolidate as well but i still would much rather any other pick we get back is 25 or later.

Why a team would trade back?

Cheaper contracts

Later first and especially 2nd round picks provide more flexibility and team friendly terms

The issue isn't the depth of the draft but the lack of obvious high end talent. Might be able to move back 10 spots and still get the guy you like.

[douggood]

Massive did say several times during his media availability last week that he doesn't expect to use all the picks in June. My guess is that he uses the 2 late first round picks to move up to the mid first round.

Sure, but if the draft is that bad, why would someone swap a pick for 2 picks later in the round? I hope he finds a way to consolidate as well but i still would much rather any other pick we get back is 25 or later.

With the new tax aprons, there will always a need to add talent on controllable contracts.

And I don't buy the comments about this draft being weak. It is considered weak until years later when an all-NBA player or two emerges. Not saying that will happen for sure but it really is too early to tell.

2013 was considered terrible as well,
https://www.zagsblog.com/2013/02/17/nba-gm-2013-draft-is-historically-weak/

NEWARK, N.J. — The 2013 NBA Draft class is so weak that more than a half dozen prospects from the 2014 Draft class would go No. 1 this year.

2013 draft gave us Giannis, gobert

point is every draft has its gems; eventually.

[Johnny Bball]

Knicks trade makes a lot of sense for Fournier.

Brown for Fournier makes too much sense not to happen, right?

It is just a matter of which pick we are asking for. These are the picks that I would take, any of them is fine:

2024
Dallas top 10 protected
Their own pick

2025
Bucks top 4
Their own pick

2026
Their own pick


Picks I don't want

2024
Pistons protected 1-18
Wizards protected 1-12

Dallas 2024 pick might be the best pick in terms of position and value? Knicks were saving those picks for a trade for a big star but maybe now this will be the final move. Pistons and Wizards picks probably have little to no value since they are likely to convey into seconds many years from now.

I don't want Fournier and just a pick for Brown. Grimes has to come back or we look elsewhere.

They aren't getting that, or alot for anyone. It is a buyers market and there are too many sellers and not enough bad salary to make these types of trades. Toronto is going to be hard pressed to unload both Brown and Trent let alone more.

[Johnny Bball]

Massive did say several times during his media availability last week that he doesn't expect to use all the picks in June. My guess is that he uses the 2 late first round picks to move up to the mid first round.

Sure, but if the draft is that bad, why would someone swap a pick for 2 picks later in the round? I hope he finds a way to consolidate as well but i still would much rather any other pick we get back is 25 or later.

With the new tax aprons, there will always a need to add talent on controllable contracts.

And I don't buy the comments about this draft being weak. It is considered weak until years later when an all-NBA player or two emerges. Not saying that will happen for sure but it really is too early to tell.

That's exactly why its called weak. No top end tallent at the top of the draft and its a crap shoot through the rest to see which guy will win out.

Nothing changes about 2013, it was a weak draft.

[ForeverTFC]

Sure, but if the draft is that bad, why would someone swap a pick for 2 picks later in the round? I hope he finds a way to consolidate as well but i still would much rather any other pick we get back is 25 or later.

With the new tax aprons, there will always a need to add talent on controllable contracts.

And I don't buy the comments about this draft being weak. It is considered weak until years later when an all-NBA player or two emerges. Not saying that will happen for sure but it really is too early to tell.

2013 was considered terrible as well,
https://www.zagsblog.com/2013/02/17/nba-gm-2013-draft-is-historically-weak/

NEWARK, N.J. — The 2013 NBA Draft class is so weak that more than a half dozen prospects from the 2014 Draft class would go No. 1 this year.

....

The GM said that the 2014 draft class is so strong that he rattled off more than half a dozen players he would take No. 1 if they went this year: Andrew Wiggins, Jabari Parker, Julius Randle, Aaron Gordon, Andrew and Aaron Harrison and Noah Vonleh.
“I think conservatively there are probably seven guys in next year’s draft that would have a shot at going No. 1 in this year’s draft,” he said.

2013 draft gave us Giannis, gobert

It did. But it was also objectively one of the worst drafts of all time. You have to look at the expected value and act accordingly. This is like saying someone always eventually wins the lottery. Yeah, the lottery makes millionaires, but it's still a terrible investment to make.