2010-11 Toronto Raptors Trade Ideas Thread

BigBuddha · Post #741 » by **BigBuddha** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:41 am

Come to us Beasley............

we got some good sh*t son

ShelB · Post #742 » by **ShelB** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:43 am

Still don't want Beasley. He's a me first, easily distracted player. Once he leaves Minnesota, he's gonna be a nightmare.

fredericklove · Post #743 » by **fredericklove** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:45 am

Move Beasley to the 3 spot, assuming we don't get Irving then we draft Sullinger.

C: The 240 lbs version of Ed Davis (From 215 lbs to 240 lbs version)
PF: Sullinger
SF: Beasley
SG: Derozan
PG: ..........................................................................

Good start. I like that.

Daedelus · Post #744 » by **Daedelus** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:01 am

zilby · Post #745 » by **zilby** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:11 am

Minny's gonna look real good next year when they flip him for a good asset and he returns to being a headcase.

Bankai · Post #746 » by **Bankai** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:14 am

Not really, the Raptors didnt want to take Beasley for essentially free, trading him for Bargnani is way out of the question to Management.

TheRealDeal · Post #747 » by **TheRealDeal** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:35 am

fredericklove wrote:Move Beasley to the 3 spot, assuming we don't get Irving then we draft Sullinger.

C: The 240 lbs version of Ed Davis (From 215 lbs to 240 lbs version)
PF: Sullinger
SF: Beasley
SG: Derozan
PG: ..........................................................................

Good start. I like that.

I like Sullinger a ton. If Ed develops into a 5 man then we'd all of a sudden have an extremely young, athletic and talented frontcourt.

Bargs would work well next to Kevin Love because of Love's rebounding ability (he'd probably average 20 RPG if teamed w/ Andrea) and we all know BC has what it takes to pull a con on Kahn

and somehow nab us Rubio (who doesn't wanna go to Minny) in the Beasley-Andrea deal.

If Kahn loves Darko then he has to value Andrea pretty high, right? Instead of having Andrea and Beas on the payroll we ship out our tweener C and build around our youth.

Kind of a pipe dream but imagine how sick this lineup would be if it all came together.

PG: Ricky Rubio 19 y.o.
SG: DeMar DeRozan 21 y.o.
SF: Michael Beasley 21 y.o.
PF: Jared Sullinger 18 y.o.
C: Ed Davis 21 y.o.

let this young roster play out a year, get another high draft pick for the 6th man and the future is very bright.

ShelB · Post #748 » by **ShelB** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:38 am

TheRealDeal wrote: Bargs would work well next to Kevin Love because of Love's rebounding ability (he'd probably average 20 RPG if teamed w/ Andrea) and we all know BC has what it takes to pull a con on Kahn and somehow nab us Rubio (who doesn't wanna go to Minny) in the Beasley-Andrea deal.

Kevin Love is worse defensively than Bargnani. Bargnani atleast plays one on one defense pretty well. Love is terrible defensively (he will improve).

Plus trading Bargnani for any player on the Wolves short of Love is stupid.

J Dilla · Post #749 » by **J Dilla** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:41 am

We could've got him for nothing.

ShelB · Post #750 » by **ShelB** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:42 am

J Dilla wrote:We could've got him for nothing.

He would've been nothing on this team. His friendship with Love helped out his year. He would've stunted the growth of everyone on the team.

TheRealDeal · Post #751 » by **TheRealDeal** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:11 am

ShelB wrote:
TheRealDeal wrote: Bargs would work well next to Kevin Love because of Love's rebounding ability (he'd probably average 20 RPG if teamed w/ Andrea) and we all know BC has what it takes to pull a con on Kahn and somehow nab us Rubio (who doesn't wanna go to Minny) in the Beasley-Andrea deal.

Kevin Love is worse defensively than Bargnani. Bargnani atleast plays one on one defense pretty well. Love is terrible defensively (he will improve).

Plus trading Bargnani for any player on the Wolves short of Love is stupid.

You can't underestimate how important defensive rebounding is. Bargs can't rebound and Love would help compensate in that aspect. Andrea isn't a terrible 1 on 1 defender so as long as they're collecting the misses they would be fine.

I haven't seen enough of Love to call him a terrible defender but if Kahn believes that they can both improve on that side of the ball then he might do it. I don't see Love in Minny long term anyways.

I was saying that I'd only consider trading with Minny if they valued Andrea high enough that they were willing to throw in Rubio. Not likely but if we could get two young players to fit important roles on our team then I'd be willing to trade Bargnani. We could draft Sullinger as Bargs' replacement in the upcoming draft.

dTox · Post #752 » by **dTox** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:38 am

ShelB wrote:
TheRealDeal wrote: Bargs would work well next to Kevin Love because of Love's rebounding ability (he'd probably average 20 RPG if teamed w/ Andrea) and we all know BC has what it takes to pull a con on Kahn and somehow nab us Rubio (who doesn't wanna go to Minny) in the Beasley-Andrea deal.

Kevin Love is worse defensively than Bargnani. Bargnani atleast plays one on one defense pretty well. Love is terrible defensively (he will improve).

Plus trading Bargnani for any player on the Wolves short of Love is stupid.

I would easily trade him for either Rubio or their draft selection this year

ShelB · Post #753 » by **ShelB** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:51 am

dTox wrote:
ShelB wrote:
TheRealDeal wrote: Bargs would work well next to Kevin Love because of Love's rebounding ability (he'd probably average 20 RPG if teamed w/ Andrea) and we all know BC has what it takes to pull a con on Kahn and somehow nab us Rubio (who doesn't wanna go to Minny) in the Beasley-Andrea deal.

Kevin Love is worse defensively than Bargnani. Bargnani atleast plays one on one defense pretty well. Love is terrible defensively (he will improve).

Plus trading Bargnani for any player on the Wolves short of Love is stupid.

I would easily trade him for either Rubio or their draft selection this year

Khan is too stubborn to trade Rubio.

MaxRockafeller · Post #754 » by **MaxRockafeller** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:53 am

WhatsaTDot · Post #755 » by **WhatsaTDot** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 8:01 am

^
Weems is going to get the minimum whether its from us or from another team looking to fill out their roster. Theres no need to double his salary.

I have to give you credit though, you sure do live up to your nickname.

Now imagine if you put that amount of energy into something productive!

uGoTaCHanCe · Post #756 » by **uGoTaCHanCe** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:42 pm

Crazy Deal but what you guys think:

Toronto

IN: Nene, Chauncey Billups

Dallas

IN: Carmelo Anthony, Leandro Barbosa

Denver

IN: Jose Calderone, Roddy Beaubois, Tyson Chandler and Reggie Evans + 1st round pick from Dallas

Then move the TPE for Iggy? and we look like

Billups, Bayless
DD, Weems
Iggy, Kleiza, Wright
Bargs, Ed
Nene, Ajinca, Alabi

Somewhere we need to move Amir since he is the oddman out if Bargs is moved to the PF spot.

witnessraps · Post #757 » by **witnessraps** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:45 pm

uGoTaCHanCe wrote:Crazy Deal but what you guys think:

Toronto

IN: Nene, Chauncey Billups

Dallas

IN: Carmelo Anthony, Leandro Barbosa

Denver

IN: Jose Calderone, Roddy Beaubois, Tyson Chandler and Reggie Evans + 1st round pick from Dallas

Then move the TPE for Iggy? and we look like

Billups, Bayless
DD, Weems
Iggy, Kleiza, Wright
Bargs, Ed
Nene, Ajinca, Alabi

Somewhere we need to move Amir since he is the oddman out if Bargs is moved to the PF spot.

i duno if thats realistic...but I rly like the trades. I dunno if Philly is dealing Iggy for straight cap relief..,.especially since that team is playing real well and hes a key part. Him and Turner are turning into a dirty combo.

A roc 23 · Post #758 » by **A roc 23** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:27 pm

witnessraps wrote:
i duno if thats realistic...but I rly like the trades. I dunno if Philly is dealing Iggy for straight cap relief..,.especially since that team is playing real well and hes a key part. Him and Turner are turning into a dirty combo.

I am going to have to disagree with you there. Iggy and Turner do not make a very good pair. They are both good passers, but they are not good scorers and neither can shoot from the outside.

On the season they average only 21 points a game combined. They averaged about 20 a game combined in December and 22 combined so far in this month, so really their are not turning into anything special. The Sixers usually look better pairing Iggy or Turner with an outside shooter like Williams or Meeks.

I absolutely think they should move one of Iggy or Turner, and Turner is only 22 years old so it would be hard to move him at this point. I think they eventually look to move Iggy, unless Turner does not improve. They just have such similar skillsets and such glaringly similar flaws.

Indeed · Post #759 » by **Indeed** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:31 pm

uGoTaCHanCe wrote:Crazy Deal but what you guys think:

Toronto

IN: Nene, Chauncey Billups

Dallas

IN: Carmelo Anthony, Leandro Barbosa

Denver

IN: Jose Calderone, Roddy Beaubois, Tyson Chandler and Reggie Evans + 1st round pick from Dallas

Then move the TPE for Iggy? and we look like

Billups, Bayless
DD, Weems
Iggy, Kleiza, Wright
Bargs, Ed
Nene, Ajinca, Alabi

Somewhere we need to move Amir since he is the oddman out if Bargs is moved to the PF spot.

How many first rounder is Denver getting?
Are they also unloading Harrington?

I am sure Denver will say NO easily.

witnessraps · Post #760 » by **witnessraps** » Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:33 pm

A roc 23 wrote:
witnessraps wrote:
i duno if thats realistic...but I rly like the trades. I dunno if Philly is dealing Iggy for straight cap relief..,.especially since that team is playing real well and hes a key part. Him and Turner are turning into a dirty combo.

I am going to have to disagree with you there. Iggy and Turner do not make a very good pair. They are both good passers, but they are not good scorers and neither can shoot from the outside.

On the season they average only 21 points a game combined. They averaged about 20 a game combined in December and 22 combined so far in this month, so really their are not turning into anything special. The Sixers usually look better pairing Iggy or Turner with an outside shooter like Williams or Meeks.

I absolutely think they should move one of Iggy or Turner, and Turner is only 22 years old so it would be hard to move him at this point. I think they eventually look to move Iggy, unless Turner does not improve. They just have such similar skillsets and such glaringly similar flaws.

I see what youre saying, but give them a little time. Turners only been in the league a handful of months, and theyve been doing better as a team. I just see Turner improving more, and meshing with Iggy nicely. They also have a great coach to make it work.