Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player

[Asif16]

To me a lot of the hate is simply because he was ahead in the rotation over Davis. Which he had no business being. If Davis had gotten the minutes he was deserved of, he might be playing the Rising All-Stars game.

We'll have to wait after we get everyone back and see after this tremendous TD run...whether or not TD has officially surpassed Mccaw in the rotation in Nurse's eyes.

IF Mccaw continues to be the 1st one off the bench once we're back healthy....the Mccaw hate will most likely continue

[SHFT]

Whats really fascinating is the line drawn in the sand between posters that are oblivious and those who are not.

McCaw has been ahead of TD in the rotation for the majority of the season. Anybody who doesn't recognize this as a potential problem is blind.

McCaw being ahead of TD for a majority of the season has been such a big problem that we are the #3 seed in the league, have a historical 14 game win streak going and TD is developing into a top 3 rookie this season. Disaster.

Who said the season is a disaster?

If the team is playing well we're suppose to bury our heads in the sand and accept everything thats going on regardless of how irrational it is?

IMO this has nothing to do with Nurses thoughts on McCaw vs TD. McCaw is a stop gap to allow TD (now that he has officially arrived on scene) to grow at his own pace with no pressure. Being blind is not looking at the big picture.

Thats a perfectly fine take....I even alluded to something similar in a post I made several pages earlier. My issue is with the large volume of posters in this thread who ARE blind and willing to accept anything Nurse does just because he's Nick Nurse. "The team's winning so who cares whats going on?" If McCaw is still playing ahead of TD in the playoffs...it has the potential to cost this team games when they matter the most.

Alright im good with your POV then. The flip side of what you just said to me is people on "your side" saying stuff like "McCaw is hindering TD" or "Nurse doesnt know what he is doing" is equally as blind as "idgaf trust Nurse".

And Id be shocked if either of them see any real minutes in the playoffs if we are healthy.

KL
FVV
OG
Pascal
Gasol
Ibaka
Norm

Then the 8th (and maybe 9th if we go that far) man will vary depending on needs. IMO the pecking order will be

RHJ (elite defence, rebounding, positional versatility, pure grit and hustle which will be needed in the postseason),
TD (another guard, scorer, positional versatility, floor spacer),
PM (positional versatility, lengthy playoff experience),
Matt Thomas (elite floor spacer),
Boucher (if a big gets in foul trouble and we need 'size').

[Gold Dragon]

Whats really fascinating is the line drawn in the sand between posters that are oblivious and those who are not.

McCaw has been ahead of TD in the rotation for the majority of the season. Anybody who doesn't recognize this as a potential problem is blind.

McCaw being ahead of TD for a majority of the season has been such a big problem that we are the #3 seed in the league, have a historical 14 game win streak going and TD is developing into a top 3 rookie this season. Disaster.

Who said the season is a disaster?

If the team is playing well we're suppose to bury our heads in the sand and accept everything thats going on regardless of how irrational it is?

Just because Nurse’s reasons are not easy to understand does not make them irrational. I explained my understanding of his reasons back in December in these two posts and they still apply. I don’t have the desire restate these points over and over again to folks who have already made up their minds about McCaw. But I’m hoping you haven’t yet as I have always appreciated your posts.

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[Ramed Nazored]

Whats really fascinating is the line drawn in the sand between posters that are oblivious and those who are not.

McCaw has been ahead of TD in the rotation for the majority of the season. Anybody who doesn't recognize this as a potential problem is blind.

Totally, had McCaw not been ahead of TD in the rotation all those games, we might even be on a 14 game win streak ATM. We might even be second in the east and third best in the entire league.

Team is winning so who cares what going on? This kind of mentality is flawed. Winning often can mask underlying issues if they are not discussed openly with a rational mind.

Many large companies ultimately fail when earnings are rolling in and things get sloppy underneath because of complacency.

You’re right. When operating my business during times of prosperity, it’s best to shift focus to the trivialities. Let’s say the paper stock I decide to use for my business cards.

From there, I can hold meeting after meeting with staff discussing the cards, send out panicked internal memos detailing what’s wrong why the stock we’ve printed the cards on, talk about nothing but the cards at staff parties, and ignore absolutely everything that’s going well until the cards have been addressed and changed accordingly.

This is the sane and healthy way to operate.

[alienchild]

Totally, had McCaw not been ahead of TD in the rotation all those games, we might even be on a 14 game win streak ATM. We might even be second in the east and third best in the entire league.

Team is winning so who cares what going on? This kind of mentality is flawed. Winning often can mask underlying issues if they are not discussed openly with a rational mind.

Many large companies ultimately fail when earnings are rolling in and things get sloppy underneath because of complacency.

You’re right. When operating my business during times of prosperity, it’s best to shift focus to the trivialities. Let’s say the paper stock I decide to use for my business cards.

From there, I can hold meeting after meeting with staff discussing the cards, send out panicked internal memos detailing what’s wrong why the stock we’ve printed the cards on, talk about nothing but the cards at staff parties, and ignore absolutely everything that’s going well until the cards have been addressed and changed accordingly.

This is the sane and healthy way to operate.

Agreed. Change those business cards pronto! Before everything turns to doodoo.

[everdiso]

Averaging out BPM, RPM, and RAPTOR:

25+mpg

Lowry +3.2
Gasol +2.6
Siakam +2.1
Vanvleet +2.1
Powell +1.6
Anunoby +0.5
Ibaka -0.5

Fighting for minutes:

Davis +3.7
Boucher +2.7
Jefferson +2.0
Thomas +0.4
McCaw -2.1


He has no business getting anywhere near the 25mpg he has received so far. Never mind being the guy who actually was in the starting lineup for a long stretch.

He's the 12th man - at BEST. Not sure that some of the extras couldn't outplay him given the chance.

[Basketball_Jones]

Averaging out BPM, RPM, and RAPTOR:

25+mpg

Lowry +3.2
Gasol +2.6
Siakam +2.1
Vanvleet +2.1
Powell +1.6
Anunoby +0.5
Ibaka -0.5

Fighting for minutes:

Davis +3.7
Boucher +2.7
Jefferson +2.0
Thomas +0.4
McCaw -2.1


He has no business getting anywhere near the 25mpg he has received so far. Never mind being the guy who actually was in the starting lineup for a long stretch.

He's the 12th man - at BEST. Not sure that some of the extras couldn't outplay him given the chance.

Yes but he makes nice skip passes and doesn’t turn the ball over or foul.

[BigDocta898]

PLEASE CUT HIM

Nurse thinks hes a better big than Boucher and a better guard than Davis its pathetic

[Boogie!]

PLEASE CUT HIM

Nurse thinks hes a better big than Boucher and a better guard than Davis and norm its pathetic

Fixed.

[Randle McMurphy]

That first half was embarrassingly bad in all respects and he still played 11 minutes (more than both Davis and Thomas). Let's see what the second half brings.

[Boogie!]

To me a lot of the hate is simply because he was ahead in the rotation over Davis. Which he had no business being. If Davis had gotten the minutes he was deserved of, he might be playing the Rising All-Stars game.

We'll have to wait after we get everyone back and see after this tremendous TD run...whether or not TD has officially surpassed Mccaw in the rotation in Nurse's eyes.

IF Mccaw continues to be the 1st one off the bench once we're back healthy....the Mccaw hate will most likely continue

He's ahead of norm too.

[jacinto]

Does nothin.

[alpngso]

Still cannot believe he was able to get close to 2/8 mil deal. All guaranteed, too.

[C_Money]

I’m watching this game and he’s blown at least 4 defensive assignments that all lead to baskets. He is TERRIBLE!!!

[WaltFrazier]

McCawwww with the 3

[SHFT]

I’m watching this game and he’s blown at least 4 defensive assignments that all lead to baskets. He is TERRIBLE!!!

He was objectively better than TD tonight.

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[Randle McMurphy]

I’m watching this game and he’s blown at least 4 defensive assignments that all lead to baskets. He is TERRIBLE!!!

Yeah but he hit a 3 today so all (namely the 26 minutes of soul crushingly bad basketball) is forgiven.

[2019nbachamps]

McCaw had an excellent sequence late in the game. Got the ball wide open on the perimeter. Hesitated. Pump faked. Defender didn't move. Decided to pass it to teammate 2 metres away from him. But its OK...he deserves 25 mpg and a max deal since he rarely turns the ball over and doesn't make many mistakes.

[Ramed Nazored]

McCaw had an excellent sequence late in the game. Got the ball wide open on the perimeter. Hesitated. Pump faked. Defender didn't move. Decided to pass it to teammate 2 metres away from him. But its OK...he deserves 25 mpg and a max deal since he rarely turns the ball over and doesn't make many mistakes.

This is all you've got to contribute following our 15th win in a row, huh? Do you know we've just made a record for the longest winning streak ever for a Canadian team, across all major leagues?

You must lead a sad, pathetic life. Welcome to the ignore list.

[2019nbachamps]

McCaw had an excellent sequence late in the game. Got the ball wide open on the perimeter. Hesitated. Pump faked. Defender didn't move. Decided to pass it to teammate 2 metres away from him. But its OK...he deserves 25 mpg and a max deal since he rarely turns the ball over and doesn't make many mistakes.

This is all you've got to contribute following our 15th win in a row, huh? Do you know we've just made a record for the longest winning streak ever for a Canadian team, across all major leagues?

You must lead a sad, pathetic life. Welcome to the ignore list.

Damn son, does he pay you to lead his fan club?