2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2.0

[Kingsway_fan]

I reiterate my previous trade idea, but have no idea if either side does it:

Fred and Birch for Ball and Caruso.

Lol great for toronto but I don't know if chi does this...

[Clay Davis]

Shake Milton probably becomes our MLE target. 6'5 3+D PG who can guard multiple positions. Will be able to get into the paint and finish or kick from the guard spot which is missing

He's also a bonafide Raptor slayer. Haven't had one of those since Rudy Gay

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[agkagk]

I reiterate my previous trade idea, but have no idea if either side does it:

Fred and Birch for Ball and Caruso.

Lol great for toronto but I don't know if chi does this...

y'all realize fred is literally the only player on the team that can create his own shot with consistency right?

[Kingsway_fan]

Jalen Brunson from mavericks instead of Fred?

[nivisi9]

if Portland remains at like pick #7 I think we need to package anything we can to get Shaedon Sharpe...

They may still be trying to win now because of Lilliard..

Does a package involving FVV + GTJ + future 1st round pick give us a chance?

What do people think? Sharpe is gonna be a star and Canadian, can we consolidate pieces for their pick?

[douggood]

if Portland remains at like pick #7 I think we need to package anything we can to get Shaedon Sharpe...

They may still be trying to win now because of Lilliard..

Does a package involving FVV + GTJ + future 1st round pick give us a chance?

What do people think? Sharpe is gonna be a star and Canadian, can we consolidate pieces for their pick?

this reminds me about tank for Wiggins fans from back in the day.

and why would portland want to go back to another smaller backcourt, plus GTJ had a bad expierence in portland plus portland has simmons at sg already.

[wegotthabeet]

if Portland remains at like pick #7 I think we need to package anything we can to get Shaedon Sharpe...

They may still be trying to win now because of Lilliard..

Does a package involving FVV + GTJ + future 1st round pick give us a chance?

What do people think? Sharpe is gonna be a star and Canadian, can we consolidate pieces for their pick?

I think all three picks in the 6 to 8 range could be available (Portland, Sacramento, New Orleans). Been a fan of Sharpe for a while, also like Mathurin too, would target either or both.

Trade 1

To Sacramento: Vanvleet + 32nd overall pick 2022
To Toronto: Holiday, Harkless, Len, Metu + 7th overall pick 2022 (Sharpe)

Sacramento desperately needs a guy like FVV that can come in and change the culture of the franchise. The Haliburton trade signals a push to make the playoffs next year. Not sure if this is enough to get it done, but aside from the pick they aren't giving up much.

Trade 2

To New Orleans: Trent Jr. + future 1st round pick 2023 (lotto protected)
To Toronto: Nance, Temple + 8th overall pick 2022 (Mathurin)

New Orleans could use another big guard that can defend and stretch the floor. They are looking to take the next step. Again aside from the pick they aren't giving up much. Nance can replace some Boucher's production.

Barnes - Banton
Holiday - Sharpe
Anunoby - Mathurin
Siakam - Nance
Achiuwa - Birch

Flynn - Brooks- Champagnie - Young

They could go into the 2023 off season with Siakam, Anunoby, Barnes, Achiuwa, Sharpe, Mathurinm, Banton, Champagnie, Brooks and either Birch or Young and create a max spot.

[Madhouse]

if Portland remains at like pick #7 I think we need to package anything we can to get Shaedon Sharpe...

They may still be trying to win now because of Lilliard..

Does a package involving FVV + GTJ + future 1st round pick give us a chance?

What do people think? Sharpe is gonna be a star and Canadian, can we consolidate pieces for their pick?

Would you think the same if he was American?

[Scottie4Bro]

You'd probably have to part with Siakam in any trade involving the 6-8th picks. I don't think FVV gets it done. Problem is, Fred would still be on the team, unless you trade away both for even more young assets which then just sets us back and makes us worse for the immediate next season, which I do not think is the goal at all.

The goal should be to get better next year and make a push for the 2nd round. I don't think you sell the farm to get more elite young prospects, especially with a team that's improved so much over the last 2 years.

[Madhouse]

You'd probably have to part with Siakam in any trade involving the 6-8th picks. I don't think FVV gets it done. Problem is, Fred would still be on the team, unless you trade away both for even more young assets which then just sets us back and makes us worse for the immediate next season, which I do not think is the goal at all.

The goal should be to get better next year and make a push for the 2nd round. I don't think you sell the farm to get more elite young prospects, especially with a team that's improved so much over the last 2 years.

we did not get better last year, did we? How do come up with 2 years?

[goinrogue]

Realistic Fred trades:

- to the bulls for Ball. They love Caruso. He’s going nowhere.
- to the knicks for toppin or Quickley and Noel. They love RJ, he’s not available.
- to lakers for nun, THT and their 2027 pick. Try to pry their 2029 pick as well. Would be good for the picks. If lakers are desperate, can get both. Raps fans won’t like this one but Masai is clearly high on THT.
- pelicans - none of their top guys available but I can see them making an offer. I can see spurs making an offer too.

[Rapsfan07]

What about something around SGA next year? If the Thunder are interested in starting to win a little, maybe we could interest them in a package that includes Vanvleet? It would probably have to include another team and/or one of Trent or OG going out as well.

Haven't fleshed out the numbers yet but maybe something along the lines of Vanvleet + Wiggins to OKC, Siakam + stuff to GSW, SGA, Wiseman, Kuminga, Poole to Toronto.

That should free up some capspace as well. We won't be winning anything next year (but heck, we weren't going to anyways) and that's a hell of a youth infusion that we can put around Scottie.

[wegotthabeet]

You'd probably have to part with Siakam in any trade involving the 6-8th picks. I don't think FVV gets it done. Problem is, Fred would still be on the team, unless you trade away both for even more young assets which then just sets us back and makes us worse for the immediate next season, which I do not think is the goal at all.

The goal should be to get better next year and make a push for the 2nd round. I don't think you sell the farm to get more elite young prospects, especially with a team that's improved so much over the last 2 years.

The picks in that range are not as valuable as last years picks in that same range in my opinion, although you might be right because it's hard to know how teams assess talent. I think both Sacramento and New Orleans will look to move them if they don't move up into the top 4. They want to get better now.

[wegotthabeet]

Realistic Fred trades:

- to the bulls for Ball. They love Caruso. He’s going nowhere.
- to the knicks for toppin or Quickley and Noel. They love RJ, he’s not available.
- to lakers for nun, THT and their 2027 pick. Try to pry their 2029 pick as well. Would be good for the picks. If lakers are desperate, can get both. Raps fans won’t like this one but Masai is clearly high on THT.
- pelicans - none of their top guys available but I can see them making an offer. I can see spurs making an offer too.

I think Fred gets you the 12th pick from New York. Pelicans won't trade valuable rotation guys, but again that pick will probably be moved to improve the team for next season. Ball could be available, so could Patrick Williams from the Bulls.

[wegotthabeet]

What about something around SGA next year? If the Thunder are interested in starting to win a little, maybe we could interest them in a package that includes Vanvleet? It would probably have to include another team and/or one of Trent or OG going out as well.

Haven't fleshed out the numbers yet but maybe something along the lines of Vanvleet + Wiggins to OKC, Siakam + stuff to GSW, SGA, Wiseman, Kuminga, Poole to Toronto.

That should free up some capspace as well. We won't be winning anything next year (but heck, we weren't going to anyways) and that's a hell of a youth infusion that we can put around Scottie.

OKC could move SGA, but only for a top 4 pick or another young star player.

To Toronto: SGA & NAW
To Utah: FVV & Trent Jr. + future 1st rounder
To OKC: Mitchell

Something like that.

[Rapsfan07]

What about something around SGA next year? If the Thunder are interested in starting to win a little, maybe we could interest them in a package that includes Vanvleet? It would probably have to include another team and/or one of Trent or OG going out as well.

Haven't fleshed out the numbers yet but maybe something along the lines of Vanvleet + Wiggins to OKC, Siakam + stuff to GSW, SGA, Wiseman, Kuminga, Poole to Toronto.

That should free up some capspace as well. We won't be winning anything next year (but heck, we weren't going to anyways) and that's a hell of a youth infusion that we can put around Scottie.

OKC could move SGA, but only for a top 4 pick or another young star player.

To Toronto: SGA & NAW
To Utah: FVV & Trent Jr. + future 1st rounder
To OKC: Mitchell

Something like that.

They'd be getting back two all-stars though in Vanvleet and Wiggins. I don't want to move FVV AND Trent Jr. AND a pick. I think that's a little overpriced and it would create an additional hole at SG unless you believe NAW is something special, which I personally don't.

[Rodrickle]

Realistic Fred trades:

- to the bulls for Ball. They love Caruso. He’s going nowhere.
- to the knicks for toppin or Quickley and Noel. They love RJ, he’s not available.
- to lakers for nun, THT and their 2027 pick. Try to pry their 2029 pick as well. Would be good for the picks. If lakers are desperate, can get both. Raps fans won’t like this one but Masai is clearly high on THT.
- pelicans - none of their top guys available but I can see them making an offer. I can see spurs making an offer too.

I think Fred gets you the 12th pick from New York. Pelicans won't trade valuable rotation guys, but again that pick will probably be moved to improve the team for next season. Ball could be available, so could Patrick Williams from the Bulls.

Fred won't be traded until he's healthy, which won't be for a long time (Certainly not before the draft) Its possible he might need surgery.

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[Raptorfan2012]

I swear SGA is going to be the next Myles Turner and Wilson Chandler of this board. Always see trade proposals for him but I doubt OKC will trade him short of us giving away a key young guy like Barnes. Of course, he can be the next Thad Young and we trade for him like 10 years later when he is in his 30s.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Realistic Fred trades:

- to the bulls for Ball. They love Caruso. He’s going nowhere.
- to the knicks for toppin or Quickley and Noel. They love RJ, he’s not available.
- to lakers for nun, THT and their 2027 pick. Try to pry their 2029 pick as well. Would be good for the picks. If lakers are desperate, can get both. Raps fans won’t like this one but Masai is clearly high on THT.
- pelicans - none of their top guys available but I can see them making an offer. I can see spurs making an offer too.

Why do people want Obi Toppin he sucks can't shoot, can't defend and won arguably the worst dunk contest ever.

All these deals suck for Toronto. You trade lethal 3 point shooter who is a bulldog defender for a bunch of garbage. THT is the most overrated teams asset also I doubt the Lakers are going to trade a pick 7 years away that's unprotected

[Mr Swagtastic]

if Portland remains at like pick #7 I think we need to package anything we can to get Shaedon Sharpe...

They may still be trying to win now because of Lilliard..

Does a package involving FVV + GTJ + future 1st round pick give us a chance?

What do people think? Sharpe is gonna be a star and Canadian, can we consolidate pieces for their pick?

I think all three picks in the 6 to 8 range could be available (Portland, Sacramento, New Orleans). Been a fan of Sharpe for a while, also like Mathurin too, would target either or both.

Trade 1

To Sacramento: Vanvleet + 32nd overall pick 2022
To Toronto: Holiday, Harkless, Len, Metu + 7th overall pick 2022 (Sharpe)

Sacramento desperately needs a guy like FVV that can come in and change the culture of the franchise. The Haliburton trade signals a push to make the playoffs next year. Not sure if this is enough to get it done, but aside from the pick they aren't giving up much.

Trade 2

To New Orleans: Trent Jr. + future 1st round pick 2023 (lotto protected)
To Toronto: Nance, Temple + 8th overall pick 2022 (Mathurin)

New Orleans could use another big guard that can defend and stretch the floor. They are looking to take the next step. Again aside from the pick they aren't giving up much. Nance can replace some Boucher's production.

Barnes - Banton
Holiday - Sharpe
Anunoby - Mathurin
Siakam - Nance
Achiuwa - Birch

Flynn - Brooks- Champagnie - Young

They could go into the 2023 off season with Siakam, Anunoby, Barnes, Achiuwa, Sharpe, Mathurinm, Banton, Champagnie, Brooks and either Birch or Young and create a max spot.

If Toronto pulled off both deals I would be shocked, I think one of the picks they look at Duren rather then two wings. If you could get both Sharpe and Duren for Freddy and GTJ and a lotto protected pick you do that.