Portland #3 trade rumors part 2

[Bruin]

We’re probably better off trying to work a multiteam deal with Charlotte.

Portland is destined for mediocrity and seems like a pain in the ass to work with. They’ll end up taking Miller and keeping Dame. By the time Miller is ready to help a team win, Dame will be washed and Portland will be left struggling to build a team around Miller and Sharpe just like they struggled for a decade to build around Dame

[ItsDanger]

Trail Blazers are owned by a trust, the trustee is Jody Allen. Paul Allen wanted a lot of his wealth dedicated to charitable and philanthropic causes. Supposedly there is a long term plan for asset disposition, which Jody will execute (legally obligated probably). So, some of the know it alls whine that she should sell but legally she may not be able to, unless she's lying.

Let's say she has a mandate to dispose by 2025 (Paul passed in 2018), it may or may not be preferable to rebuild in that case, but contend and generate playoff buzz. But none of us know the details.

[Duffman100]

That’s a smokescreen if I’ve ever seen one

you're not getting Bam with #3 considering his age and contract.
Paul George might be attainable but why would you want him? At his peak, he's better than Siakam but is he going to play? Not to mention older and paid more

I would much rather go for PG or Adebayo and strike out than Siakam/OG.

I don’t think the POR FO gets either preferred choice and hopefully folds for the rebuild.

Paul George? The guy who can't stay on the court or show up when it matters?

[JRoy]

We’re probably better off trying to work a multiteam deal with Charlotte.

Portland is destined for mediocrity and seems like a pain in the ass to work with. They’ll end up taking Miller and keeping Dame. By the time Miller is ready to help a team win, Dame will be washed and Portland will be left struggling to build a team around Miller and Sharpe just like they struggled for a decade to build around Dame

POR is a PITA to work with?

I do remember seeing an article stating a certain FO was difficult to deal with; yours.

[Madvillainy2004]

If Yak/Fred/Gary all walk I don't know what to even say just embarrassing asset management.

[Bruin]

We’re probably better off trying to work a multiteam deal with Charlotte.

Portland is destined for mediocrity and seems like a pain in the ass to work with. They’ll end up taking Miller and keeping Dame. By the time Miller is ready to help a team win, Dame will be washed and Portland will be left struggling to build a team around Miller and Sharpe just like they struggled for a decade to build around Dame

POR is a PITA to work with?

I do remember seeing an article stating a certain FO was difficult to deal with; yours.

Right cause all the smoke on media is worth trusting

Portland is throwing **** out to every media source in existence. They’re wasting their time trying to pursue Bam to put pressure on Masai and others

[Kordic27]

That’s a smokescreen if I’ve ever seen one

you're not getting Bam with #3 considering his age and contract.
Paul George might be attainable but why would you want him? At his peak, he's better than Siakam but is he going to play? Not to mention older and paid more

I would much rather go for PG or Adebayo and strike out than Siakam/OG.

I don’t think the POR FO gets either preferred choice and hopefully folds for the rebuild.

I like Portland - It seems like they might be doing the right thing by swinging for the fences (for BAM, George would be a massive mistake), so that they can get turned down, demonstrate to Dame that they tried, and everyone can leave on good terms, having made best efforts.

[Ackshun]

It’s too much for Pascal.

So when Portland finds a more serious trading partner and moves on from Pascal, then what ? Run it back because we wanted to rob Portland ?

There is negotiating and then there is negotiating in good faith.

It's equally possible that Portland isn't negotiating in good faith.

Is keeping a good player in Siakam really the end of the world like some are making it out to be? I'm open to moving him, and I'd even do something like Sharpe, 23, Simons, Keon. But the reality, is if we don't trade him, we just keep him and maybe he gets better.

I think the majority of us are fine keeping Pascal. But…we have lots of holes to fill and this provides us with an easy way to plug them. Roster just doesn’t seem balanced, so combine that with Pascals name in the media, and we start to dream up scenarios.

To the other comment about this squad potentially getting better; I doubt it. Maybe marginally. Maybe defensively. Guys aren’t going to learn to shoot in one summer.

[DG88]

This is why I'd rather not listen to rumours during this time and the trade deadline. It's not good for your mental health.

[JRoy]

This is why I'd rather not listen to rumours during this time and the trade deadline. It's not good for your mental health.

The back and forth is fun; this board is a lot more fun than some of the stiffies on this site.

[GooniesNeverDie]

If Yak/Fred/Gary all walk I don't know what to even say just embarrassing asset management.

Shouldn’t be a concern because this is never happening. At worst one of them walk for nothing but I even doubt that. This isn’t a old Serge/Marc situation.


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[Duffman100]

If Yak/Fred/Gary all walk I don't know what to even say just embarrassing asset management.

Shouldn’t be a concern because this is never happening. At worst one of them walk for nothing but I even doubt that. This isn’t a old Serge/Marc situation.


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And that is oddly overblown by some as some huge 'mistake'.

Marc was done at that point. Serge was pretty close as well. Nobody was offering us any value for those two and we were legit title contenders that year anyways.

[Bruin]

This is why I'd rather not listen to rumours during this time and the trade deadline. It's not good for your mental health.

Realistically what actually happens on draft night will look a lot different than what the smoke right now suggests

[GooniesNeverDie]

It's equally possible that Portland isn't negotiating in good faith.

Is keeping a good player in Siakam really the end of the world like some are making it out to be? I'm open to moving him, and I'd even do something like Sharpe, 23, Simons, Keon. But the reality, is if we don't trade him, we just keep him and maybe he gets better.

I think the majority of us are fine keeping Pascal. But…we have lots of holes to fill and this provides us with an easy way to plug them. Roster just doesn’t seem balanced, so combine that with Pascals name in the media, and we start to dream up scenarios.

To the other comment about this squad potentially getting better; I doubt it. Maybe marginally. Maybe defensively. Guys aren’t going to learn to shoot in one summer.

Yeah, Pascal just seems like the most logical guy to move. The fit is wonky with Scottie and OG can fit with either while still being young.

If Pascal was younger, this offseason probably looks significantly different.


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[Tha Cynic]

That’s a smokescreen if I’ve ever seen one

you're not getting Bam with #3 considering his age and contract.
Paul George might be attainable but why would you want him? At his peak, he's better than Siakam but is he going to play? Not to mention older and paid more

I would much rather go for PG or Adebayo and strike out than Siakam/OG.

I don’t think the POR FO gets either preferred choice and hopefully folds for the rebuild.

I understood your line of thinking this entire time and could understand why you rejected all these trade proposals, but then you say this and it doesn't make sense.

Where do you expect this team to go with Paul George or Bam? IMO the Blazers would be a much better team with Siakam and OG, but none of these trades are making them better than the top 4 or 5 teams in the West.

[Jadoogar]

That’s a smokescreen if I’ve ever seen one

you're not getting Bam with #3 considering his age and contract.
Paul George might be attainable but why would you want him? At his peak, he's better than Siakam but is he going to play? Not to mention older and paid more

I would much rather go for PG or Adebayo and strike out than Siakam/OG.

I don’t think the POR FO gets either preferred choice and hopefully folds for the rebuild.

Would you really prefer PG? Paul George has played 48, 54, 31 and 56 games for the last 4 seasons.

[lebron stopper]

you're not getting Bam with #3 considering his age and contract.
Paul George might be attainable but why would you want him? At his peak, he's better than Siakam but is he going to play? Not to mention older and paid more

I would much rather go for PG or Adebayo and strike out than Siakam/OG.

I don’t think the POR FO gets either preferred choice and hopefully folds for the rebuild.

Paul George? The guy who can't stay on the court or show up when it matters?

The bigger issue is that I don't see the Clippers parting ways with PG. For better or worse, they're locked into that core until the wheels fall off.

When PG plays though, he's really damn good. Can easily scale up into a first option too if needed (and I'd argue he's way better as one then as a sidekick). In his last playoff appearance he led the Clippers to the conference finals without Kawhi.

This is why I'd rather not listen to rumours during this time and the trade deadline. It's not good for your mental health.

Disagree - I'm laughing my ass off watching this game of chicken escalate into absurdity, with the story about the Raptors trying to trade for Beal (implying they'll run it back if they don't get what they want for Siakam) which is followed up soon with a story about the Trail Blazers only wanting to trade their pick for Adebayo or PG who are basically untouchable.

[gbball]

It's equally possible that Portland isn't negotiating in good faith.

Is keeping a good player in Siakam really the end of the world like some are making it out to be? I'm open to moving him, and I'd even do something like Sharpe, 23, Simons, Keon. But the reality, is if we don't trade him, we just keep him and maybe he gets better.

I think the majority of us are fine keeping Pascal. But…we have lots of holes to fill and this provides us with an easy way to plug them. Roster just doesn’t seem balanced, so combine that with Pascals name in the media, and we start to dream up scenarios.

To the other comment about this squad potentially getting better; I doubt it. Maybe marginally. Maybe defensively. Guys aren’t going to learn to shoot in one summer.

It's not just shooting though, it's the shot selection and types of looks we generated...the lack of off ball movement, not making the easy pass when you draw two. Even small things like, by electing not to play a shooter like Malachi, you have less spacing to work with. Whether he makes or not, teams have to respect him from the perimeter. We could have used lineups with spacing, and less size, but we almost always chose the defensive option, while ignoring the lack of playmaking or shooting. That's 100% on Nurse.

We can be much better offensively.

[JRoy]

you're not getting Bam with #3 considering his age and contract.
Paul George might be attainable but why would you want him? At his peak, he's better than Siakam but is he going to play? Not to mention older and paid more

I would much rather go for PG or Adebayo and strike out than Siakam/OG.

I don’t think the POR FO gets either preferred choice and hopefully folds for the rebuild.

Would you really prefer PG? Paul George has played 48, 54, 31 and 56 games for the last 4 seasons.

It’s true but he an elite player on both ends.

[wegotthabeet]

Trail Blazers are owned by a trust, the trustee is Jody Allen. Paul Allen wanted a lot of his wealth dedicated to charitable and philanthropic causes. Supposedly there is a long term plan for asset disposition, which Jody will execute (legally obligated probably). So, some of the know it alls whine that she should sell but legally she may not be able to, unless she's lying.

Let's say she has a mandate to dispose by 2025 (Paul passed in 2018), it may or may not be preferable to rebuild in that case, but contend and generate playoff buzz. But none of us know the details.

it would be awesome if the blazers could just relocate to vancouver. put jroy out of his misery.