Tank World Order (XIV) Here we go, The Final Stretch of the 2025 Tank Season!!!

[NotMyKawhi]

Only raptors fans will be like nah ja doesn't fit we want Shai I rather have no superstars and just suck forever

Eventually you gotta go w facts. 2nd in a stacked west, then ja is out, one of the worst teams in the league. He's back, now they're winning again.

Raptors fans hate winning

[PushDaRock]

I’m not changing my tone at all….wth? I’m saying they should have and could have done it. They chose to do this half measured approach. We are 6 games behind the Sixers. Off the top of my head, our two wins vs the hawks, the win vs the Celtics, clippers, warriors, we beat Orlando 3 times, there are a few more. These would have been losses had we actually sat more guys and reduced their minutes even further than what we did.

No, you were saying we "easily" could have been top 5. I am totally disagreeing with the notion that it would have been easy even if they pulled out all the stops to tank the entire season.

lol are you really counting one of those Orlando wins where we pulled all the starters in the 4th and needed a Walter buzzer beater to win?

Are we just not supposed to beat any good or mediocre teams the entire year? You do realize even bad teams go on hot streaks and beat teams they shouldn't right?

Bruh, we had a stretch this season in January where we went 8 for 2 in a 10 game stretch playing our guys regular minutes. The majority of the teams we beat were good or at a minimum playoff teams. If we actually were serious the tanking should have started before that. We easily could have been a bottom 5 team. We were in great position. We shot ourselves in the foot and reduced our cushion. We were playing our guys regular rotations and clowns on this forum were saying it’s okay we will have plenty of losing and not to worry. It came back to bite us. This was all self inflicted.

Reverse that 8-2 run to 2-8 with just wins against Pelicans and Wizards instead and we are still only tied with the Sixers right now, that's not easily locking up 5th no matter how you try to spin it.

[MainEvent]

I’m not changing my tone at all….wth? I’m saying they should have and could have done it. They chose to do this half measured approach. We are 6 games behind the Sixers. Off the top of my head, our two wins vs the hawks, the win vs the Celtics, clippers, warriors, we beat Orlando 3 times, there are a few more. These would have been losses had we actually sat more guys and reduced their minutes even further than what we did.

No, you were saying we "easily" could have been top 5. I am totally disagreeing with the notion that it would have been easy even if they pulled out all the stops to tank the entire season.

lol are you really counting one of those Orlando wins where we pulled all the starters in the 4th and needed a Walter buzzer beater to win?

Are we just not supposed to beat any good or mediocre teams the entire year? You do realize even bad teams go on hot streaks and beat teams they shouldn't right?

Bruh, we had a stretch this season in January where we went 8 for 2 in a 10 game stretch playing our guys regular minutes. The majority of the teams we beat were good or at a minimum playoff teams. If we actually were serious the tanking should have started before that. We easily could have been a bottom 5 team. We were in great position. We shot ourselves in the foot and reduced our cushion. We were playing our guys regular rotations and clowns on this forum were saying it’s okay we will have plenty of losing and not to worry. It came back to bite us. This was all self inflicted.

January show me a team other than the Jazz who were pulling anything back then

even the 76ers were still trying to win into early March

[Raps in 4]

Only raptors fans will be like nah ja doesn't fit we want Shai I rather have no superstars and just suck forever

Eventually you gotta go w facts. 2nd in a stacked west, then ja is out, one of the worst teams in the league. He's back, now they're winning again.

Raptors fans hate winning

Ja is a top-20 player, at best. Replacing IQ with him doesn't move the needle by a lot.

He's also a player Masai wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. He does not **** with low-character/immature players, and Ja is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to character/maturity.

I'd certainly consider the trade if we don't move up to top-2 in the draft, but Masai won't, so it doesn't matter.

[Coco Costanza]

Sixers look poised to lose their 12th game in a row.

[Jcity08]

Sixers look poised to lose their 12th game in a row.

As dumb as their "process" has looked, one things for sure, they are consistent when it comes to securing high lottery odds.

[WhatsaTDot]

Dream scenario is Utah drops 4 spots, Philly drops 2 spots and Raptors move up to 1.

[DelAbbot]

We've been going on about how other teams are so bad and we're just too good to tank based on the personnel on the roster. I seriously hope they can prove it next season by actually winning. It would be a nightmare to discover we're just the best of the worst and we still don't have enough juice to be a solid playoff team.

Look at it this way, if this team flops next year, I can't imagine Masai surviving it.

So either we get a fresh start with a new FO or a playoff team.

I will miss Masai like I missed FVV

[WuTang_CMB]

Watch on YouTube

[PushDaRock]

We've been going on about how other teams are so bad and we're just too good to tank based on the personnel on the roster. I seriously hope they can prove it next season by actually winning. It would be a nightmare to discover we're just the best of the worst and we still don't have enough juice to be a solid playoff team.

Look at it this way, if this team flops next year, I can't imagine Masai surviving it.

So either we get a fresh start with a new FO or a playoff team.

I will miss Masai like I missed FVV

Don't be sad he's gone, be happy about the memories left behind.

[DelAbbot]

Look at it this way, if this team flops next year, I can't imagine Masai surviving it.

So either we get a fresh start with a new FO or a playoff team.

I will miss Masai like I missed FVV

Don't be sad he's gone, be happy about the memories left behind.

Watch on YouTube

[JB7]

I’m not changing my tone at all….wth? I’m saying they should have and could have done it. They chose to do this half measured approach. We are 6 games behind the Sixers. Off the top of my head, our two wins vs the hawks, the win vs the Celtics, clippers, warriors, we beat Orlando 3 times, there are a few more. These would have been losses had we actually sat more guys and reduced their minutes even further than what we did.

No, you were saying we "easily" could have been top 5. I am totally disagreeing with the notion that it would have been easy even if they pulled out all the stops to tank the entire season.

lol are you really counting one of those Orlando wins where we pulled all the starters in the 4th and needed a Walter buzzer beater to win?

Are we just not supposed to beat any good or mediocre teams the entire year? You do realize even bad teams go on hot streaks and beat teams they shouldn't right?

Bruh, we had a stretch this season in January where we went 8 for 2 in a 10 game stretch playing our guys regular minutes. The majority of the teams we beat were good or at a minimum playoff teams. If we actually were serious the tanking should have started before that. We easily could have been a bottom 5 team. We were in great position. We shot ourselves in the foot and reduced our cushion. We were playing our guys regular rotations and clowns on this forum were saying it’s okay we will have plenty of losing and not to worry. It came back to bite us. This was all self inflicted.

Wasn't that the stretch where they played KO & BB consistent minutes, so they could prove they could still play, in order to trade them before the deadline?

[JB7]

lol yeah for like 7 games not 40+ games like you seem to think we could have done

Yeah, Kyle sat for the final 7 games of that season. We've done significantly more tanking stuff in terms of sitting players, blatantly resting or pulling guys late in games, etc, than we even remotely approached in the Tampa tank.

After the trade deadline he basically sat with fake injuries for most of the season. We also traded Norman who was winning us games for a younger Gary Trent.



Scottie and Poeltl should have missed more games. They were winning us too many games. We did not try hard enough. This team is somewhat deep, they needed to miss more games. It was doable.

I believe they traded Norm for Gary, because they didn't want to pay Norm. They thought Gary would be a cheaper replacement. He was a bit cheaper, but turned out to be not much of a replacement.

[JB7]

We've been going on about how other teams are so bad and we're just too good to tank based on the personnel on the roster. I seriously hope they can prove it next season by actually winning. It would be a nightmare to discover we're just the best of the worst and we still don't have enough juice to be a solid playoff team.

So much depends on Ingram staying healthy and being an impact player again. Without him playing a significant number of games it's basically the same team we trotted out this year minus Bruce Brown, Kelly Olynk, and Chris Boucher as decent veteran bench pieces that actually won us some games. If there are other players missing games as well the record next season might not be much better than this season.

The current 7th place team in the East is under .500

The Bucks, sitting in 5th place, might be done, if Dame is done, and Giannis demands a trade.

6th place team is the Pistons. They have had a great year, but this is a team that has been rock bottom for years. Can they improve next year, or start to regress after a year playing inferior talent in the East.

Honestly, the Pistons rise this year, and the Magic last season are perfect examples of how teams can easily rise in the East.

[Los_29]

No, you were saying we "easily" could have been top 5. I am totally disagreeing with the notion that it would have been easy even if they pulled out all the stops to tank the entire season.

lol are you really counting one of those Orlando wins where we pulled all the starters in the 4th and needed a Walter buzzer beater to win?

Are we just not supposed to beat any good or mediocre teams the entire year? You do realize even bad teams go on hot streaks and beat teams they shouldn't right?

Bruh, we had a stretch this season in January where we went 8 for 2 in a 10 game stretch playing our guys regular minutes. The majority of the teams we beat were good or at a minimum playoff teams. If we actually were serious the tanking should have started before that. We easily could have been a bottom 5 team. We were in great position. We shot ourselves in the foot and reduced our cushion. We were playing our guys regular rotations and clowns on this forum were saying it’s okay we will have plenty of losing and not to worry. It came back to bite us. This was all self inflicted.

Wasn't that the stretch where they played KO & BB consistent minutes, so they could prove they could still play, in order to trade them before the deadline?

And those players are tank commanders for the Pelicans.

[Pointgod]

Sixers look poised to lose their 12th game in a row.

I envy the commitment to tanking excellence

[Duffman100]

Sixers look poised to lose their 12th game in a row.

I envy the commitment to tanking excellence

Even though the results have been ****?

[bluerap23]

Time for the scheduled white boy comparison. Who is better Gradey or Kon?

[Syd-TK3]

Philly and Utah easily the most shameless teams and hope they suffer

[Duffman100]

Time for the scheduled white boy comparison. Who is better Gradey or Kon?

At this point I'd have to say Kon would have more value (even outside of 2 more years of controllability)

Feels like he has better handles and is less of a defensive liability. And his shot looks like it would translate a bit more quickly to the NBA level.

That's my guess.