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GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19

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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#761 » by canada_dry » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:19 am

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At some point this organization has to make a Choice. Are you developing Scottie into a role player or your main piece? Because og siakam and fvv and Trent all the same team, too many cooks in the kitchen trying to be the man.


Having numerous cooks (who can play about .500 ball) when a rookie is in game 17 of his career, or even most of his first year, is absolutely fine It says nothing about where you expect him to be in his prime.

Rushing a player who is not a great ball shooter / handler (yet), into a high usage role that he is not ready for is something perenially bad teams do to players that tend not to develop.

Does his role need to be tweaked to get shots at other spots. Sure. But forcing high usage on to him makes zero sense in my view.

I just don't get it.


That logic doesn’t make sense. Perennially bad teams have to do that because they have no other talent. And that’s why they’re bad.

This team isn’t lackin talent. It’s misusing the talent it has. Scottie has the best playmaking potential on this team and eventually that is his projected role. It makes more sense to try to develop it ASAP instead of using him as a screen setter and rebounder. What good does that do him or the team? Doesn’t it make more sense to get his reps in… and going forward the team will be better for it. Again it doesn’t have to be all the time. B it he should be used like draymond. Use him at the top of the key or in a post up and set screens for fvv or Trent where he can find them. These are set plays.

Nurse not taking advantage of his skillset in this why is perplexing.
He has no handles. We want him to use his body and athleticism to be agressive and score, but hes not being aggressive there. Part of it is he doesn't realize how good he is, another part of it is im sure hes feeling a bit worn down by now. College isnt like this.

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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#762 » by HumbleRen » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:19 am

Syd-TK3 wrote:Nah how the hell we up so much?


As bad as we've been, the Kings are even worse.
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#763 » by Tha Cynic » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:19 am

The Raptors definitely need to trade two of FVV, Siakam and OG. With GTJ now in the mix there just isn't enough ball to go around. GTJ seems to actually be playing withing the flow and is the perfect 6th man.

Siakam and FVV are both playing like they already think this season is over and just want to make the all-star team.
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#764 » by ruckus » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:19 am

will wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:Nah how the hell we up so much?


We shall revisit this post once the 3rd quarter ends. :lol:


Lol. You think Walton's in the locker room making adjustments?

He's probably brushing his hair and texting Channing.
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#765 » by johanliebert » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:19 am

WaltFrazier wrote:Having both our centers playing, always one on the court, is making all the difference here. Birch and Precious both working hard and playing well, and their presence has Siakam and Boucher playing better too.

Now all they gotta do is come for weak side blocks. Less thinking the better for those two.
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#766 » by Ref_from_hell » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:20 am

Tha Cynic wrote:The Raptors definitely need to trade two of FVV, Siakam and OG. With GTJ now in the mix there just isn't enough ball to go around. GTJ seems to actually be playing withing the flow and is the perfect 6th man.

Siakam and FVV are both playing like they already think this season is over and just want to make the all-star team.


This is just delusional
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#767 » by johanliebert » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:20 am

Tha Cynic wrote:The Raptors definitely need to trade two of FVV, Siakam and OG. With GTJ now in the mix there just isn't enough ball to go around. GTJ seems to actually be playing withing the flow and is the perfect 6th man.

Siakam and FVV are both playing like they already think this season is over and just want to make the all-star team.

Up 19 at half and you find a way to stick to your talking points lol.
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#768 » by will » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:20 am

ruckus wrote:
will wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:Nah how the hell we up so much?


We shall revisit this post once the 3rd quarter ends. :lol:


Lol. You think Walton's in the locker room making adjustments?

He's probably brushing his hair and texting Channing.


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Harsh, however that is very true.
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#769 » by Bruin » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:20 am

HumbleRen wrote:Time for Scottie to stat pad, Franz Wagner and Cade on his neck for the ROTY discussion

Scottie won’t win ROTY. I’ve accepted that already. The team isn’t built for him to put up numbers like that and Cade is looking great

All I want is for his growth and for him to get opportunities to expand his game
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#770 » by TrustFundBaby » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:20 am

WaltFrazier wrote:Having both our centers playing, always one on the court, is making all the difference here. Birch and Precious both working hard and playing well, and their presence has Siakam and Boucher playing better too.


It's crazy to see how much better they look with a balanced SL and bench

I think a move of one of GTJ or Scottie to the bench is in order.
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#771 » by blastttOFF » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:20 am

will wrote:
720 wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:Nah how the hell we up so much?

Trent is on fire man. Siakam being efficient. Fun to watch.


Khem is bringing it on both ends of the floor as well.


All while Brampton is pissed and throwing Montreal all over the court all game long.

Brampton’s wrath gonna get Walton fired :lol:
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#772 » by Boogie! » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:21 am

Mikistan wrote:
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Mikistan wrote:Bro why are you defending a point guard who threw a bullet pass out of bounds?

Delusional.

Go to bed man it’s late for you

Why do you resort to personal attacks tho? Why don't you talk about the basketball you are watching


Because it’s the only way people can argue when they have no other argument. Happens all the **** time. Like people can’t just be objective or accept the objective criticism.

Just like with Trent. It’s fine to say he’s a good shooter. It’s also true that he’s a black hole. These arguments can coexist. The problem is some people can’t differentiate or because they have a bias for a certain player, they can’t accept any criticism towards them. Therefore anything bad they do is excused because they think everything else they do positive makes up for their flaws. Sorry to say but it doesn’t. Only superstars get that kind of exception. We currently Have no superstars.
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#773 » by Dennis 37 » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:21 am

ruckus wrote:Comments making we think we aren't up 12 and turning over the Kings left and right.


I think the comments are reaffirming what people are seeing.

1. Fred, the team player, is a lot better on offense than Fred the hero. Fred has excellent defence.

2. Banton is at his best as the ball handler. If he is out there with Fred, Fred has to play off ball. That's not his his automatic mode.

3. The team has to have a center on the floor. Pascal is much more relaxed when he doesn't have that role.

4. Chris Boucher functions much better when the team functions much better.

5. Fred and GTJ are starters for their defence, regardless what they bring at the other end. So one of Pascal, OG, or Barnes should not start. Too much duplication of resources.
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#774 » by Mikistan » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:21 am

Ref_from_hell wrote:
Tha Cynic wrote:The Raptors definitely need to trade two of FVV, Siakam and OG. With GTJ now in the mix there just isn't enough ball to go around. GTJ seems to actually be playing withing the flow and is the perfect 6th man.

Siakam and FVV are both playing like they already think this season is over and just want to make the all-star team.


This is just delusional

I stopped reading at trading OG
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#775 » by Chandan » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:21 am

That half time rap is fire.

Much better than those lame half time show in toronto.
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#776 » by RaptorPride » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:22 am

720 wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:Nah how the hell we up so much?

Trent is on fire man. Siakam being efficient. Fun to watch.

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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#777 » by Dalek » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:22 am

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PrinceAli wrote:I miss Kyle
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This stat is nuts. It also tells you what the focus of the players on this team is. Way too many guys who are out to get theirs.

I count 4 guys on this team who have the basketball personality of a 6th man. FVV, GTJ, Svi, Boucher


What does shooting your shot have to do with getting charges? Seems like 2 different things.

To me Kyle was just always in position for charges because he doesn't guard up top as much. He was more of guy sneaking in from the weakside to set up for a charge or strip.

FVV and Trent get tons of deflections and steals on ball which is really what the defense is trying to do.

Charges are fun, but those are literally 50-50 calls and Kyle had a rep which gave him a ton of leeway on calls.
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#778 » by TrustFundBaby » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:22 am

Achiuwa has been overly hated on this board. He changes the game defensively, all of a sudden we look more competent on that end.
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#779 » by Syd-TK3 » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:22 am

will wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:Nah how the hell we up so much?


We shall revisit this post once the 3rd quarter ends. :lol:

Please don't
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Re: GT: Raptors @ Kings 10PM SN Friday Nov 19 

Post#780 » by WuTang_CMB » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:23 am

Id legit cry everyday if i was a
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