2023 Draft Prospect discussion

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we got wemby lol

LOL! We walk away with Wemby and Jalen Wilson?!? where to I sign? He also has Jarace above Cam... wild!

The Athletic has us taking Ausar at #6, and Sidy in the 2nd round (with Jalen Hood-Schifino still on the board). Also not a bad outcome!

This is crazy deep. We have the potential to walk away with a blue chipper, and a really interesting piece in the 2nd

Their list is wild lol but I'll take any scenario where we get Wemby.

I'd be stunned if Anthony Black went 3rd. Not that I don't think he's a really good young prospect but to go ahead of both Thompson Twins, Brandon Miller (who's arguably had the best college season of all freshmen) AND Cam Whitmore...I just don't see it. Maybe one of them (my guess would be Ausar) but no way he's 3rd unless he starts dominating & averaging over 20+ppg can I see him going 3rd.

I think the Athletic has it right for our 2nd rd projection & that we would take Sidy if he's there which I can see being a small possibility (I don't see Baba falling that hard unless maybe he turns full Bruno then I've been had lol). As to Cam vs Jarace, I actually think that's a tougher call than you may think depending where Jarace lands (ie/ here...I wouldn't write off that he could get close to Cam's level). Right now Cam has the edge because he's shown more as a scorer with more consistency but Jarace has some really good potential on that end as well if you look more at his HS footage. I'm NOT saying exacts but his scoring style almost reminded me of Jerami Grant....and I know Cam's projecting more Jaylen Brown. BUUUT Jarace could be a special defender. He's got a damn near Isaiah Stewart type of body but moves very quickly laterally & has GREAT defensive instincts, he's looked ALMOST like a college Draymond as a defender.

That would at least be the prototypes I see his game imitating, again not duplicating. But a super STRONG, big wing that can defend 1-5 at a really high level AND can maybe get buckets like Grant, that's a stud if he reaches something around that level. If you don't get too caught up in a Jerami level offensive player, think if Grant was built like a tank & was one of the best defenders in the league. He'd be a completely different level player, I'd argue if Jerami Grant was built like Stewart & could defend something like Dray that a player like that is at the same level, if not better than Jaylen Brown. But of course that's a hypothetical player LOL again I'm NOT saying that's what Jarace WILL be, but I see that kinda stuff in his game and where if he was able to maximise his potential how he COULD end up better than Cam, not that is in the present moment although fairly close imo.

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we got wemby lol

LOL! We walk away with Wemby and Jalen Wilson?!? where to I sign? He also has Jarace above Cam... wild!

The Athletic has us taking Ausar at #6, and Sidy in the 2nd round (with Jalen Hood-Schifino still on the board). Also not a bad outcome!

This is crazy deep. We have the potential to walk away with a blue chipper, and a really interesting piece in the 2nd

This draft is insanely deep. It kinda sucks that there isn't much by way of PGs in the first round but I would still like to acquire at least one additional pick in the first round.

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Keep your expectations low, he hasn't played this season. Plus it's going to take some time for him to develop. If some teams drafts him top 5, I will get on stage and slap that GM.

Oh, my expectations were down. I didn't think he played well really and didn't really flash anything. Clearly has good size and mobility for 6'10. But I didn't see much of the guard skills everyone was talking about. Still lots of time obviously and it's his first game of the season.

Agree. He looked better at the U18. He doesn't really have guard skills, just because he used to be a guard doesn't mean he was good at it. He can make the right pass like Scottie but Scottie isn't a guard. He will get better, let's see how much better by the end of the year.

TWac came into the league not really having guard skills but was a SF/PF that became a SG/SF. That's pretty much how I see his positional transition on the Raptors.

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Oh, my expectations were down. I didn't think he played well really and didn't really flash anything. Clearly has good size and mobility for 6'10. But I didn't see much of the guard skills everyone was talking about. Still lots of time obviously and it's his first game of the season.

Agree. He looked better at the U18. He doesn't really have guard skills, just because he used to be a guard doesn't mean he was good at it. He can make the right pass like Scottie but Scottie isn't a guard. He will get better, let's see how much better by the end of the year.

TWac came into the league not really having guard skills but was a SF/PF that became a SG/SF. That's pretty much how I see his positional transition on the Raptors.

IMO comparing Baba Miller to Tmac is faulty. Not even close to the same fluidity or explosiveness. Baba will need to show a "semblance" of actual guard skill for him to skyrocket into the lotto IMO. Also when I say guard skills I don't mean starting a fast break because many players can do that now. Anyways lots of games and development for Baba to come, but i'm not sure lotto is were I'd draft him atm. Probably in the 20 range earliest "without" the guard skills.

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we got wemby lol

LOL! We walk away with Wemby and Jalen Wilson?!? where to I sign? He also has Jarace above Cam... wild!

The Athletic has us taking Ausar at #6, and Sidy in the 2nd round (with Jalen Hood-Schifino still on the board). Also not a bad outcome!

This is crazy deep. We have the potential to walk away with a blue chipper, and a really interesting piece in the 2nd

Their list is wild lol but I'll take any scenario where we get Wemby.

I'd be stunned if Anthony Black went 3rd. Not that I don't think he's a really good young prospect but to go ahead of both Thompson Twins, Brandon Miller (who's arguably had the best college season of all freshmen) AND Cam Whitmore...I just don't see it. Maybe one of them (my guess would be Ausar) but no way he's 3rd unless he starts dominating & averaging over 20+ppg can I see him going 3rd.

I think the Athletic has it right for our 2nd rd projection & that we would take Sidy if he's there which I can see being a small possibility (I don't see Baba falling that hard unless maybe he turns full Bruno then I've been had lol). As to Cam vs Jarace, I actually think that's a tougher call than you may think depending where Jarace lands (ie/ here...I wouldn't write off that he could get close to Cam's level). Right now Cam has the edge because he's shown more as a scorer with more consistency but Jarace has some really good potential on that end as well if you look more at his HS footage. I'm NOT saying exacts but his scoring style almost reminded me of Jerami Grant....and I know Cam's projecting more Jaylen Brown. BUUUT Jarace could be a special defender. He's got a damn near Isaiah Stewart type of body but moves very quickly laterally & has GREAT defensive instincts, he's looked ALMOST like a college Draymond as a defender.

That would at least be the prototypes I see his game imitating, again not duplicating. But a super STRONG, big wing that can defend 1-5 at a really high level AND can maybe get buckets like Grant, that's a stud if he reaches something around that level. If you don't get too caught up in a Jerami level offensive player, think if Grant was built like a tank & was one of the best defenders in the league. He'd be a completely different level player, I'd argue if Jerami Grant was built like Stewart & could defend something like Dray that a player like that is at the same level, if not better than Jaylen Brown. But of course that's a hypothetical player LOL again I'm NOT saying that's what Jarace WILL be, but I see that kinda stuff in his game and where if he was able to maximise his potential how he COULD end up better than Cam, not that is in the present moment although fairly close imo.

You're preaching to the choir. I love Jarace, and he's balling at the moment. Both are studs. I still prefer Cam as I think he has more onball juice (and has the first step to become a primary in time), but I can absolutely see the case for going with Jarace. I just hadn't seen him mocked so high before.

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we got wemby lol

LOL! We walk away with Wemby and Jalen Wilson?!? where to I sign? He also has Jarace above Cam... wild!

The Athletic has us taking Ausar at #6, and Sidy in the 2nd round (with Jalen Hood-Schifino still on the board). Also not a bad outcome!

This is crazy deep. We have the potential to walk away with a blue chipper, and a really interesting piece in the 2nd

This draft is insanely deep. It kinda sucks that there isn't much by way of PGs in the first round but I would still like to acquire at least one additional pick in the first round.

Jalen Hood-Schifino is being slept on big time. He's the perfect big 'pg' for a team like ours, where the forwards play with the ball in their hands a lot. 6'6, strong, unselfish, crafty. While he's lacks burst, he still somehow manages to score well at the rim and in the midrange... now his 3pt shot seems to be coming around (45.8% for the season). The more I see of him, the more I like his game. Would be an absolute steal in the 2nd round IMO.

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I know EVERY GM in the league is salivating at the idea of drafting Wemby but Masai has to be thinking what an absolute gold mine Vic would be for growing the game with him. Getting him to headline Wembanyama for GOA, get some Summer League games in France, Europe & especially Montreal here. The odds aren't huge but if you hang around bottom 6-8, it always seems to be someone in that range that jumps up & this is a massive opportunity to EXPLODE the team's popularity that has to be weighing very heavily right now. It really is a shoot for the (super)star but land in a cloud situation...not saying he will blow it up but he's there so that's a pretty good sign (hopefully lol).

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Jalen Hood-Schifino is being slept on big time. He's the perfect big 'pg' for a team like ours, where the forwards play with the ball in their hands a lot. 6'6, strong, unselfish, crafty. While he's lacks burst, he still somehow manages to score well at the rim and in the midrange... now his 3pt shot seems to be coming around (45.8% for the season). The more I see of him, the more I like his game. Would be an absolute steal in the 2nd round IMO.

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I guess a good candidate for the 2nd pick. I guess floor seems like Jalen Harris. Looks like Josh Hart without the super rebounding.

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Jalen Hood-Schifino is being slept on big time. He's the perfect big 'pg' for a team like ours, where the forwards play with the ball in their hands a lot. 6'6, strong, unselfish, crafty. While he's lacks burst, he still somehow manages to score well at the rim and in the midrange... now his 3pt shot seems to be coming around (45.8% for the season). The more I see of him, the more I like his game. Would be an absolute steal in the 2nd round IMO.

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I guess a good candidate for the 2nd pick. I guess floor seems like Jalen Harris. Looks like Josh Hart without the super rebounding.

Maybe a bigger George Hill. Fundamental player with decent D.

[grant101]

Jalen Hood-Schifino is being slept on big time. He's the perfect big 'pg' for a team like ours, where the forwards play with the ball in their hands a lot. 6'6, strong, unselfish, crafty. While he's lacks burst, he still somehow manages to score well at the rim and in the midrange... now his 3pt shot seems to be coming around (45.8% for the season). The more I see of him, the more I like his game. Would be an absolute steal in the 2nd round IMO.

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I guess a good candidate for the 2nd pick. I guess floor seems like Jalen Harris. Looks like Josh Hart without the super rebounding.

Josh Hart is not a bad comp, frame-wise at least. JHS is a little less athletic, but a better ballhandler, passer and shooter. Both are solid defensively. The comp I like for him is Brogdon (though Brogdon came out as a Sr if I recall corretly)

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Jalen Hood-Schifino is being slept on big time. He's the perfect big 'pg' for a team like ours, where the forwards play with the ball in their hands a lot. 6'6, strong, unselfish, crafty. While he's lacks burst, he still somehow manages to score well at the rim and in the midrange... now his 3pt shot seems to be coming around (45.8% for the season). The more I see of him, the more I like his game. Would be an absolute steal in the 2nd round IMO.

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I guess a good candidate for the 2nd pick. I guess floor seems like Jalen Harris. Looks like Josh Hart without the super rebounding.

Josh Hart is not a bad comp, frame-wise at least. JHS is a little less athletic, but a better ballhandler, passer and shooter. Both are solid defensively. The comp I like for him is Brogdon (though Brogdon came out as a Sr if I recall corretly)

Brogdon is my comparison for him as well. Big guard, super solid. The only knock I have on him right now is his inefficient shooting from everywhere except 3.

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He was a 6'2 guard entering HS.

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He makes some nice passes after penetrating into the lane.

He still brings the ball down and starts his shot from his hip.

Yeah, I know he was the size of a guard before. But he's still moving like a big in this clip, hence more time needed. He's rusty and understandably so. But he'll also need to show guard skills to separate himself by draft time. If not he's pretty much your average NBA big.

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I'm with you. Unless he actually has guard skills he's no better than say Ware. IMO they'll both be potential stretch bigs. But in Wares case should be a pretty good defender also.

Ware is freakin' legit in my opinion. He's being slept on big time. I can see him having a bigger impact than Robert Williams when he's established, which is say a TON.

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Some Donovan Mitchell/Beal vibes there. Barring a serious tank, he and Nick Smith Jr are pretty exciting scoring guard prospects for a team desperate for one.

If we're keeping VanVleet, I really think we need to turn Trent at this deadline into a draft pick that we can then use to move up or trade for a center. Even if it means taking on a bad year of Joe Harris or Evan Fournier or Tim Hardaway Jr.

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Keyonte has really picked it up compared to how he looked early on. I like KG enough that i'd be okay with the selection, although he doesn't look as "quick" as I'd like from a guard. But it just goes to show how much I like this draft class.

I'd love to get another FRP.

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Keyonte has really picked it up compared to how he looked early on. I like KG enough that i'd be okay with the selection, although he doesn't look as "quick" as I'd like from a guard. But it just goes to show how much I like this draft class.

I'd love to get another FRP.

I'll take his creation/scoring if say we slide to 10-12 in lottery.

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Some Donovan Mitchell/Beal vibes there. Barring a serious tank, he and Nick Smith Jr are pretty exciting scoring guard prospects for a team desperate for one.

If we're keeping VanVleet, I really think we need to turn Trent at this deadline into a draft pick that we can then use to move up or trade for a center. Even if it means taking on a bad year of Joe Harris or Evan Fournier or Tim Hardaway Jr.

I don't think I've seen one game from NS where I'm like "yeah, he's a lotto lock". If anything every game (before he shut it down) I was left wondering wtf made him one of the top recruits. Like I get he's coming back from injury, but show something before shutting it down( Whitmore). Now I know he'll likely be a lotto pick due to RSCI pre ranking, but like Lively I've been left unimpressed.