2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD

[dozo]

This is just a really bad year to be tanking overall though. The guys at the top of the draft board are the raw high upside types that usually go late lotto. Then, you have some of the higher floor guys trending up as well just because they're "safer" picks but those guys would be mid teens to late 1st in a normal draft. This draft might even be worse than people think to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up even worse than the 2000 Draft Class.

The more I look at this draft I think the knock against it isn’t a lack of talent, rather it’s a lack of American college talent. Most of the top talent is international or playing professional somewhere.

I remember Givony said something along these lines a while back.

Basically said that the reason it’s viewed as a a weak draft class is the fact that the 2023 High school class was weak. So there’s not as much high end talent in college basketball this year. Also hurt that 2 of the best HS guys went the G League route

100%. Its funny how RJ and Wiggins were being touted as the next super stars by the media, but we didn't hear the same about Murray or SGA.

Then people call them bust because they didn't live up to the media's predictions.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

The more I look at this draft I think the knock against it isn’t a lack of talent, rather it’s a lack of American college talent. Most of the top talent is international or playing professional somewhere.

I remember Givony said something along these lines a while back.

Basically said that the reason it’s viewed as a a weak draft class is the fact that the 2023 High school class was weak. So there’s not as much high end talent in college basketball this year. Also hurt that 2 of the best HS guys went the G League route

100%. Its funny how RJ and Wiggins were being touted as the next super stars by the media, but we didn't hear the same about Murray or SGA.

Then people call them bust because they didn't live up to the media's predictions.

People were sleeping on the fact SGA had a .464 FTR stroking FTs at 82% meanwhile RJ had a .319 FTR shooting 67%. SGA also had much better stock rates, AST:TO and efficiency from deep.

RJ was the focal point of one of the most prominent basketball programs in the country and had an insane 32.2% usage rate. It just goes to show that sometimes players who are hyper efficient even though they're taking a backseat role in college can emerge when given a chance to showcase their talent. It's why Reed Sheppard should be selected prior to Rob Dillingham this year.

RJ very much still is what he showed at Duke. I've never been a fan of his.

[Bruin]

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[bballsparkin]

I want us to draft one of these Euros in top 6. I believe. Zaccharie, Salaun or Sarr make it happen. We are THE international team. And so it was said...

[Bruin]

I want us to draft one of these Euros in top 6. I believe. Zaccharie, Salaun or Sarr make it happen. We are THE international team. And so it was said...

I’ll be happy if we land one of those 3 or Cody Williams

Those are my 4 favorites as of now.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

TCU Baylor going to triple overtime, Walter's struggles shooting against conference opponents continues.

[WuTang_CMB]

Salaun going to end up top 10. Kid is 18 and already playing well in the French league.

[Kevin Willis]

If Knecht is long, he might be worth a look with one of our other picks. He's a scorer, he might have a Jaime impact.

No chance. No one believed me on Jaime last year and just like I said he’s looking like the next Jimmy Butler. Knecht isn’t in the same stratosphere as Jaime.

I agree he's not as good but is he worth a look in this draft? His impact, a positive one, could be like Jaime as he fills the scorer role. Not as good, no way.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

KJ Simpson with another solid game 25 pts 8 reb 7-11 from the field 3-5 from downtown 8-8 from stripe. He actually has deceptive burst when putting the ball on the floor and attacking the hole, should be more than enough to keep defenders honest in the NBA. Really would consider him with Detroit's pick if he sustains this gameplay and has a good pre-draft showing.

[WuTang_CMB]

kid can play and just super efficient

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[Ell Curry]

Watched a bit of Duke-Clemson and Kentucky-Arkansas. Some very, very small sample size takes:

Filipowski is skilled, not totally useless as a rim protector but probably not quite big or strong enough to be an NBA starting center.

PJ Hall too small to play the 5. Maybe a passable backup 4, probably nothing to get excited about.

Reed Sheppard, I was pretty impressed. He can shoot, makes plays on defence. Bit small to be Derrick White and he got swallowed up on drives so he's probably a lower usage 6th or 7th man type, but there's probably a solid player in there.

Wagner, not as small as I thought for a 2-guard. Misses too many shots.

Big Z, barely played, but he looks like an NBA center size-wise and obviously has shooting potential, so that's an intriguing one for sure.

Antonio Reeves, I've always liked him as an undrafted guy. He's only going to hit 3s, but that's not without value, even at 6'4 instead of the 6'6 or 6'7 you'd like a guy who can only do that to be.

[Psubs]

Salaun going to end up top 10. Kid is 18 and already playing well in the French league.

He looks 6'10 with a 7'5 wingspan. He could become the C of the future, battling Chet and Wemby. His frame looks much wider than ceht and Wemby so could fill out more like Giannis.

[Ell Curry]

People were sleeping on the fact SGA had a .464 FTR stroking FTs at 82% meanwhile RJ had a .319 FTR shooting 67%. SGA also had much better stock rates, AST:TO and efficiency from deep.

RJ was the focal point of one of the most prominent basketball programs in the country and had an insane 32.2% usage rate. It just goes to show that sometimes players who are hyper efficient even though they're taking a backseat role in college can emerge when given a chance to showcase their talent. It's why Reed Sheppard should be selected prior to Rob Dillingham this year.

RJ very much still is what he showed at Duke. I've never been a fan of his.

https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?link=y&minFT=0.78&minftr=40&minht=76&year=2024&start=20231101&end=20240501

Looked up FTR and FT% for guys over 6'3 and the takeaways are that David Jones at Memphis always seems to pop up on searches I do (I watched Memphis-Michigan but don't really remember him, to be honest, mostly Penny Hardaways's kid shooting off the bench stood out but he barely plays) and that Ja'Kobe Walter should probably be a top 5 pick. McCullar does well here too. Maybe we can get him with the Pacers pick and he'll be a solid all-around starting 2 guard.

[Rapsfan07]

kid can play and just super efficient

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I like Sheppard. Seems to me like the high floor, low ceiling type of player. Not going to be a superstar but should be a solid NBA player who sticks around for a while. Kinda like McConnell

[Rapsfan07]

People were sleeping on the fact SGA had a .464 FTR stroking FTs at 82% meanwhile RJ had a .319 FTR shooting 67%. SGA also had much better stock rates, AST:TO and efficiency from deep.

RJ was the focal point of one of the most prominent basketball programs in the country and had an insane 32.2% usage rate. It just goes to show that sometimes players who are hyper efficient even though they're taking a backseat role in college can emerge when given a chance to showcase their talent. It's why Reed Sheppard should be selected prior to Rob Dillingham this year.

RJ very much still is what he showed at Duke. I've never been a fan of his.

https://barttorvik.com/playerstat.php?link=y&minFT=0.78&minftr=40&minht=76&year=2024&start=20231101&end=20240501

Looked up FTR and FT% for guys over 6'3 and the takeaways are that David Jones at Memphis always seems to pop up on searches I do (I watched Memphis-Michigan but don't really remember him, to be honest, mostly Penny Hardaways's kid shooting off the bench stood out but he barely plays) and that Ja'Kobe Walter should probably be a top 5 pick. McCullar does well here too. Maybe we can get him with the Pacers pick and he'll be a solid all-around starting 2 guard.

I'm not sure how I feel about Walter yet BUT I do really like McCullar a lot. Would love take him or Ware with that Indiana pick.

[Jerry Lucas]

Salaun going to end up top 10. Kid is 18 and already playing well in the French league.

He looks 6'10 with a 7'5 wingspan. He could become the C of the future, battling Chet and Wemby. His frame looks much wider than ceht and Wemby so could fill out more like Giannis.

Reportedly he is 6'9" with a 7'1" wingspan. Still a +4 though, which in Masai's books is still pretty good.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

If Knecht is long, he might be worth a look with one of our other picks. He's a scorer, he might have a Jaime impact.

No chance. No one believed me on Jaime last year and just like I said he’s looking like the next Jimmy Butler. Knecht isn’t in the same stratosphere as Jaime.

I agree he's not as good but is he worth a look in this draft? His impact, a positive one, could be like Jaime as he fills the scorer role. Not as good, no way.

Part of me wants to hate Knecht but every time I watch him play I can't deny what I'm seeing and the numbers backing it up. He makes high DOD shots and does it efficiently. On top of that he's performing against elite college competition and it's not like his teammates are making it easy for him as Tennessee has a pretty garbage lineup in terms of offensive talent. I see some Bojan Bogdanovic in his game.

I think Tennessee finally gave up trying to be remotely competent on offense and are going to now try to get Knecht 15-20 shots a game going forward so he can cook. It's good for Knecht and the team's tournament chances, at least until they run into a team that has a lockdown defender that can neutralize him.

[Rapsfan07]

KJ Simpson with another solid game 25 pts 8 reb 7-11 from the field 3-5 from downtown 8-8 from stripe. He actually has deceptive burst when putting the ball on the floor and attacking the hole, should be more than enough to keep defenders honest in the NBA. Really would consider him with Detroit's pick if he sustains this gameplay and has a good pre-draft showing.

Never heard of this guy until just now. Thanks for sharing.

Took a quick look at his numbers.... def don't look bad at all. I'll add him to my watchlist.

[Yallbecrazy]

If you look at the BPMs of the top 10 freshman, sophomores, and upperclassmen entering the draft this year and compare it to last year I think you'll find it is higher this season. I don't think this is an elite draft, but I like it more than last year's by quite a margin.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Watched a bit of Duke-Clemson and Kentucky-Arkansas. Some very, very small sample size takes:

Filipowski is skilled, not totally useless as a rim protector but probably not quite big or strong enough to be an NBA starting center.

PJ Hall too small to play the 5. Maybe a passable backup 4, probably nothing to get excited about.

Reed Sheppard, I was pretty impressed. He can shoot, makes plays on defence. Bit small to be Derrick White and he got swallowed up on drives so he's probably a lower usage 6th or 7th man type, but there's probably a solid player in there.

Wagner, not as small as I thought for a 2-guard. Misses too many shots.

Big Z, barely played, but he looks like an NBA center size-wise and obviously has shooting potential, so that's an intriguing one for sure.

Antonio Reeves, I've always liked him as an undrafted guy. He's only going to hit 3s, but that's not without value, even at 6'4 instead of the 6'6 or 6'7 you'd like a guy who can only do that to be.

Last year I called Filipowski soft after watching him get abused by players with size and strength. This season he has still struggled with size/strength so my mind hasn't been changed and his struggles aren't because of his body, the guy is 7' 250 lbs. He has done a great job improving his game and by all accounts he is a really hard worker. There are some people who say he's Kristaps Porzingis and others who say Kelly Olynyk and I'd have to gravitate towards the Olynyk comps, the Porzingis stuff is way too bullish. I'm glad you can also see that he's an oversized PF and not a C.

I'm not sure how well PJ Hall's game translates to the NBA and I watched Norchad Omier absolutely wreck him recently. That really made me question how legitimate he is despite the stats so I agree here.

Antonio Reeves screwed my bracket last year as Cason Wallace had a masterful performance against K-State and Reeves went 1-15 from the field (1-10 from downtown). It was one of the worst tournament performances I have ever witnessed. He's a massive DND for me for many reasons.