Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 4

[FluLikeSymptoms]

Can some do a draft Tomas Satoronsky picture? If we can't get Kabongo or Marshall, let's go this way.

I'm pretty sure he's already a BC's 2nd rounder boys, if he slides until 2nd.

I asked about him a few days ago and got "tall PG". DX has him as a 2, so i'm guessing he's a combo. Is Marco Jaric too convenient for a comparison?

I'd also like to know more about Evan Fournier, the French wing DX has going #23.

[Dr Positivity]

Fournier should start researching house prices in San Antonio and Houston, you just know he's going there lol

[Twoism]

Jaric is more Turkoglu style, slow and smart. Tomas game is more athletic, more run, but we can't know if the athletism that works in Europe could work also in nba. Meanwhile in D seems similiar to Rubio, with major height and wingspan, not a great stopper in self coverance but lot of steals.

[ansoncarter]

Fournier sounds like a dirty word not surprised he's french

even the team he plays for sound dirty. "Poiters". Sound like coitus, pretty sure they're owned by a french brothel. Run by Madame Fournier.

[Alfred]

It's really hilarious how your fanbase, among others, really give no consideration to PJ3 due to his supposed 'flaws', only to then talk/prop other prospects who are equally, if not more, flawed themselves.

piss off

He made a thread on the NBA Draft board saying that Perry Jones was better than Anthony Davis.

[Mr. Natural]

Barnes isn't the ball-handler this team needs. He turns the ball over way too much and I don't trust his handles or driving ability. This team needs a wing who can break down the defense on drives to the basket, not a spot up shooter.

[nahom1319]

Barnes isn't the ball-handler this team needs. He turns the ball over way too much and I don't trust his handles or driving ability. This team needs a wing who can break down the defense on drives to the basket, not a spot up shooter.

I don't agree on some of what you wrote, but the bolded sections I do agree with. I think Jeremy Lamb is the player in this draft that we need, I also happen to think he's talented enough to be a top 5 selection. For some reason or another the people in charge of mock sites disagree with me and I can't understand why there is such a discrepancy.

[Kevin Willis]

Jaric is more Turkoglu style, slow and smart. Tomas game is more athletic, more run, but we can't know if the athletism that works in Europe could work also in nba. Meanwhile in D seems similiar to Rubio, with major height and wingspan, not a great stopper in self coverance but lot of steals.

That's a good assessment. He's a past first guard, which we need, and his motor is really good. He's athletic with a solid body. I saw him a couple years ago and I like him. He does remind me of Rubio in his vision, D and he's a bit taller too.

He's not a scorer but he can hit the jumper if they sag on the PnR. He's like 21 so he's pretty young. His game is more NBA than European like Rubio. As a guard he's more like - hmmm - I've read Zoran Planinic but he's more athletic than he is. Maybe Jrue Holiday without the tenacious d. He would be a solid backup guard that would challenge Bayless. Not Myck level but If we draft a wing first, why not.

[fredericklove]

It's really hilarious how your fanbase, among others, really give no consideration to PJ3 due to his supposed 'flaws', only to then talk/prop other prospects who are equally, if not more, flawed themselves.

piss off

He made a thread on the NBA Draft board saying that Perry Jones was better than Anthony Davis.

And he put Davis over PJ3 on his big board recently. He's the biggest troll in this board and I'm surprised he's still not banned.

[fredericklove]

A guy to keep an eye on who could end up in the top 7-10 range is Arnott Moultrie. Legit 6'10-6'11, has a skilled face-up game and is a 10 reb+ guy. Not a fit whatsoever for our lineup but it's possible he gets enough talk that a team ahead of us picks him. (and frankly we should be thinking BPA and not ruling out any possibilites anyways)

Please tell me the top 10 here isn't going to be eight bigs, Barnes and Gilchrist. Like aren't there guys with skills out there any more?

Yup, he loves his athletic big too much. It's becoming an obsession too.

[Rhettmatic]

Barnes isn't the ball-handler this team needs. He turns the ball over way too much and I don't trust his handles or driving ability. This team needs a wing who can break down the defense on drives to the basket, not a spot up shooter.

I don't agree on some of what you wrote, but the bolded sections I do agree with. I think Jeremy Lamb is the player in this draft that we need, I also happen to think he's talented enough to be a top 5 selection. For some reason or another the people in charge of mock sites disagree with me and I can't understand why there is such a discrepancy.

I like Lamb quite a bit too. I would take all the draft sites with a grain of salt, especially this early. The only major change I've noticed to DX's Top 10 recently was MKG moving up to 3, but otherwise I find they don't tinker with it too much until the pre-draft process really starts ramping up.

[fredericklove]

Barnes isn't the ball-handler this team needs. He turns the ball over way too much and I don't trust his handles or driving ability. This team needs a wing who can break down the defense on drives to the basket, not a spot up shooter.

I don't know where you've been but it seems to me you have an out-of-date player evaluation analysis. This year he limits his turnover and protects the ball with his body alot more and he's been driving to the basket at a higher rate, and often draw for contact. And he's not just a spot up shooter, this is the same argument over and over and over again, he's got off the dribble one step pull up jumper, step-back, utilizes an effective triple-threat moves and jab-steps. So seriously, get your facts right about the player.

[SkywalkerAC]

Barnes will disrupt the defense plenty and be smart and efficient with the ball, not dissimilar from our own Andrea Bargnani. We need shooting and defense from the wing spot. We can get penetration and passing from the point guard spot.

[Rapsfan07]

Jeremy Lamb, Bradley Beal Quincy Miller and Terrence Ross all say hello

[FluLikeSymptoms]

Jaric is more Turkoglu style, slow and smart. Tomas game is more athletic, more run, but we can't know if the athletism that works in Europe could work also in nba. Meanwhile in D seems similiar to Rubio, with major height and wingspan, not a great stopper in self coverance but lot of steals.

That's a good assessment. He's a past first guard, which we need, and his motor is really good. He's athletic with a solid body. I saw him a couple years ago and I like him. He does remind me of Rubio in his vision, D and he's a bit taller too.

He's not a scorer but he can hit the jumper if they sag on the PnR. He's like 21 so he's pretty young. His game is more NBA than European like Rubio. As a guard he's more like - hmmm - I've read Zoran Planinic but he's more athletic than he is. Maybe Jrue Holiday without the tenacious d. He would be a solid backup guard that would challenge Bayless. Not Myck level but If we draft a wing first, why not.

Thanks, guys.

I think Jeremy Lamb is the player in this draft that we need, I also happen to think he's talented enough to be a top 5 selection. For some reason or another the people in charge of mock sites disagree with me and I can't understand why there is such a discrepancy.

I like Lamb quite a bit too. I would take all the draft sites with a grain of salt, especially this early. The only major change I've noticed to DX's Top 10 recently was MKG moving up to 3, but otherwise I find they don't tinker with it too much until the pre-draft process really starts ramping up.

Yeah, the mocks aren't making much sense and they really haven't changed since September. And when it comes to Lamb, it's like he's got some terminal illness I'm not aware of- his talent and athletic package were obvious even last year, I wanted him to declare then.

I thought a couple NBA-types had been quoted as saying they thought Lamb was better than Barnes, best wing, etc. so I think the sites who have him outside the top 10 or even behind Beal at SG are out to lunch. He's still first behind the ADs to me and has been for months.

[sunny]

can someone post this insdier for me?
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-spor ... rs-country

[AbC?]

Give me the guard/forward with the tight handle and ability to create over players who need to be spoonfed the ball. Harden, Curry, Evans, EGordon... all can create off the bounce. Just this year late picks like Shumpert and Brooks are looking great in part because they can handle the ball well.

[JamesNaismith]

Give me the guard/forward with the tight handle and ability to create over players who need to be spoonfed the ball. Harden, Curry, Evans, EGordon... all can create off the bounce. Just this year late picks like Shumpert and Brooks are looking great in part because they can handle the ball well.

I think Lamb is the best at doing that out of the top swings in the draft.

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[Homer Jay]

I was just at NBADraft.net and they have us taking Sullinger at #5.... are you f'ing kidding me. There is no way on god's green earth we would ever take him. 1) His bust potential is almost Thabeet level, an dI don't think BC takes that risk right now. We are aiming for a more sure, and NBA ready player 2) Why add another PF? Do some 'search boys, just don't plug us into your prospect rankings.

Right now if current standings hold up for the lottery, I see us grabbing MGK or trading down slightly for PJIII. However without B-Man I see a skid coming and hopefully we can end up around#3 and grab Lamb or Barnes.

[JamesNaismith]

I was just at NBADraft.net and they have us taking Sullinger at #5.... are you f'ing kidding me. There is no way on god's green earth we would ever take him. 1) His bust potential is almost Thabeet level, an dI don't think BC takes that risk right now. We are aiming for a more sure, and NBA ready player 2) Why add another PF? Do some 'search boys, just don't plug us into your prospect rankings.

Right now if current standings hold up for the lottery, I see us grabbing MGK or trading down slightly for PJIII. However without B-Man I see a skid coming and hopefully we can end up around#3 and grab Lamb or Barnes.

I think it's been said a few times in this thread already but most mock draft sites aren't listing their draft order based on who they think the team drafts but just more what order the player will be drafted. It would be too tough to keep up with guessing where they think kids are drafted based on their talent and the potential team at every point of the season....think about it.

But I do get the feeling we'll be in the ballpark of landing Barnes/Lamb/PJ3