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2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#781 » by HeadtopChunes » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:15 pm

TheAlchemist wrote:
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StringerBell wrote:Can't stop thinking about that rumored 3 way trade involving Lowry going to Philly, Simmons to GS and the Raps getting the Warriors first round pick(LaMelo). Makes sense for all teams involved and would allow the Raps to retool sign Fred, extend OG and still have a ton of cap space to make a run at Giannis + another free agent.


i cant think about how much id hate that lol

we end up with the worst player in this hypothetical deal by far



I want no parts of that Lamelo sideshow.

He's been shown in a handful of games, and struggled mightily in Europe. Nooooo parts.

James Wiseman either.

It's Anthony Edwards or nothing for me. Which means I'd give Minesota Lowry + OG for their pick.


I’m out on everyone in this draft in a way. I’m not willing to trade more than Norm and a pick for anyone.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#782 » by StringerBell » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:15 pm

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StringerBell wrote:Can't stop thinking about that rumored 3 way trade involving Lowry going to Philly, Simmons to GS and the Raps getting the Warriors first round pick(LaMelo). Makes sense for all teams involved and would allow the Raps to retool sign Fred, extend OG and still have a ton of cap space to make a run at Giannis + another free agent.


i cant think about how much id hate that lol

we end up with the worst player in this hypothetical deal by far


lol, I get how you can look at it like that. Guess it depends what your opinion of LaMelo is, but the bottom line is if Masai is serious about taking a run at Giannis then one of Lowry or FVV has to go. And I think now is the best time to maximize a return for Lowry.
Other wise, you lose FVV for nothing, or sign FVV and risk Lowry walking in a year. And the team needs cheap high end talent in the worst way.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#783 » by mademan » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:21 pm

StringerBell wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
StringerBell wrote:Can't stop thinking about that rumored 3 way trade involving Lowry going to Philly, Simmons to GS and the Raps getting the Warriors first round pick(LaMelo). Makes sense for all teams involved and would allow the Raps to retool sign Fred, extend OG and still have a ton of cap space to make a run at Giannis + another free agent.


i cant think about how much id hate that lol

we end up with the worst player in this hypothetical deal by far


lol, I get how you can look at it like that. Guess it depends what your opinion of LaMelo is, but the bottom line is if Masai is serious about taking a run at Giannis then one of Lowry or FVV has to go. And I think now is the best time to maximize a return for Lowry.
Other wise, you lose FVV for nothing, or sign FVV and risk Lowry walking in a year. And the team needs cheap high end talent in the worst way.


You know the trade includes the raps getting Wiggins, right? Which means no cap flexibility for Giannis
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#784 » by StringerBell » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:34 pm

HeadtopChunes wrote:
TheAlchemist wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
i cant think about how much id hate that lol

we end up with the worst player in this hypothetical deal by far



I want no parts of that Lamelo sideshow.

He's been shown in a handful of games, and struggled mightily in Europe. Nooooo parts.

James Wiseman either.

It's Anthony Edwards or nothing for me. Which means I'd give Minesota Lowry + OG for their pick.


I’m out on everyone in this draft in a way. I’m not willing to trade more than Norm and a pick for anyone.


LaMelo's gonna be stud ya'll.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#785 » by StringerBell » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:37 pm

mademan wrote:
StringerBell wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
i cant think about how much id hate that lol

we end up with the worst player in this hypothetical deal by far


lol, I get how you can look at it like that. Guess it depends what your opinion of LaMelo is, but the bottom line is if Masai is serious about taking a run at Giannis then one of Lowry or FVV has to go. And I think now is the best time to maximize a return for Lowry.
Other wise, you lose FVV for nothing, or sign FVV and risk Lowry walking in a year. And the team needs cheap high end talent in the worst way.


You know the trade includes the raps getting Wiggins, right? Which means no cap flexibility for Giannis


4 way trade then lol.....just thinking of a way for the team to acquire young talent.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#786 » by Mattatron » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:54 pm

HeadtopChunes wrote:
TheAlchemist wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
i cant think about how much id hate that lol

we end up with the worst player in this hypothetical deal by far



I want no parts of that Lamelo sideshow.

He's been shown in a handful of games, and struggled mightily in Europe. Nooooo parts.

James Wiseman either.

It's Anthony Edwards or nothing for me. Which means I'd give Minesota Lowry + OG for their pick.


I’m out on everyone in this draft in a way. I’m not willing to trade more than Norm and a pick for anyone.


I wouldn't trade Lowry too. But Norm and the Pick for a guy like Devin Vassell would be great. Dude is a monster on D, can shoot the 3 and would not get blocked on every drive like Norm lol
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#787 » by Psubs » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:53 pm

TheAlchemist wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
StringerBell wrote:Can't stop thinking about that rumored 3 way trade involving Lowry going to Philly, Simmons to GS and the Raps getting the Warriors first round pick(LaMelo). Makes sense for all teams involved and would allow the Raps to retool sign Fred, extend OG and still have a ton of cap space to make a run at Giannis + another free agent.


i cant think about how much id hate that lol

we end up with the worst player in this hypothetical deal by far



I want no parts of that Lamelo sideshow.

He's been shown in a handful of games, and struggled mightily in Europe. Nooooo parts.

James Wiseman either.

It's Anthony Edwards or nothing for me. Which means I'd give Minesota Lowry + OG for their pick.


Well he did okay in Australia last season.
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Post#788 » by Psubs » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:57 pm

StringerBell wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
TheAlchemist wrote:

I want no parts of that Lamelo sideshow.

He's been shown in a handful of games, and struggled mightily in Europe. Nooooo parts.

James Wiseman either.

It's Anthony Edwards or nothing for me. Which means I'd give Minesota Lowry + OG for their pick.


I’m out on everyone in this draft in a way. I’m not willing to trade more than Norm and a pick for anyone.


LaMelo's gonna be stud ya'll.


I guess best case is Penny Hardaway in Shaun Livingston's body.

I'm downgrading to best case being Shaun Livingston with flare.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#789 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:36 pm

Quick mock-up:

Re-sign FVV
Re-sign Watson
Re-sign Boucher
Trade Powell and McCaw for Turner
Sign Noel
Draft Bane
Draft Perry

Lowry/Davis/[Bane]
FVV/Thomas/[Bane]
OG/Watson
Siakam/Perry
Turner/Noel/Boucher
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#790 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:37 pm

StringerBell wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
TheAlchemist wrote:

I want no parts of that Lamelo sideshow.

He's been shown in a handful of games, and struggled mightily in Europe. Nooooo parts.

James Wiseman either.

It's Anthony Edwards or nothing for me. Which means I'd give Minesota Lowry + OG for their pick.


I’m out on everyone in this draft in a way. I’m not willing to trade more than Norm and a pick for anyone.


LaMelo's gonna be stud ya'll.


I agree. But there really isn't a deal out there for a top 3 pick that makes sense.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#791 » by Rapsfan07 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:02 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:Quick mock-up:

Re-sign FVV
Re-sign Watson
Re-sign Boucher
Trade Powell and McCaw for Turner
Sign Noel
Draft Bane
Draft Perry

Lowry/Davis/[Bane]
FVV/Thomas/[Bane]
OG/Watson
Siakam/Perry
Turner/Noel/Boucher


Love me some Myles Turner but Indy ain't moving him for Powell and McCaw. At least I don't think they will.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#792 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:25 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:Quick mock-up:

Re-sign FVV
Re-sign Watson
Re-sign Boucher
Trade Powell and McCaw for Turner
Sign Noel
Draft Bane
Draft Perry

Lowry/Davis/[Bane]
FVV/Thomas/[Bane]
OG/Watson
Siakam/Perry
Turner/Noel/Boucher


Love me some Myles Turner but Indy ain't moving him for Powell and McCaw. At least I don't think they will.


They'd have to move Dipo in a trade for a big man before they trade Turner.
Throw in a second rounder if you have to.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#793 » by TheAlchemist » Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:38 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
StringerBell wrote:
HeadtopChunes wrote:
I’m out on everyone in this draft in a way. I’m not willing to trade more than Norm and a pick for anyone.


LaMelo's gonna be stud ya'll.


I agree. But there really isn't a deal out there for a top 3 pick that makes sense.


You actually think La'Melo is gonna be good? Lonzo was the better prospect, had a better head on shoulders, and was more mature.

Lonzo looks like the poor mans version of Rondo.

I'm never going to associate my team and product with the Ball family.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#794 » by LoveMyRaps » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:07 pm

TheAlchemist wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
StringerBell wrote:
LaMelo's gonna be stud ya'll.


I agree. But there really isn't a deal out there for a top 3 pick that makes sense.


You actually think La'Melo is gonna be good? Lonzo was the better prospect, had a better head on shoulders, and was more mature.

Lonzo looks like the poor mans version of Rondo.

I'm never going to associate my team and product with the Ball family.


Melo is definitely a better prospect than Lonzo was.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2889220-is-lamelo-ball-a-better-nba-draft-prospect-than-lonzo-at-19#:~:text=Lonzo's%20MPG%20vs.&text=Lonzo%20played%20more%20(35.1%20minutes,compared%20to%20LaMelo's%2027.7%20percent.&text=LaMelo%20ran%20the%20NBL's%20worst,per%20game%20to%20Lonzo's%209.5).
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#795 » by Syd-TK3 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:22 pm

Lamelo just screams empty stats all star
Edwards is the only guy worth top 3 pick, and even then I'd probably trade back
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#796 » by baller16 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:48 pm

Dipo & Turner on this team would be my ideal trade, but I don't know if we can get it done.

Lowry/Dipo/OG/Siakam/Turner

That's a nasty team. We get younger and we also get a legit SG. We'd probably have the number 1 defense in the league too.

We'd probably beat the Celtics & Heat next season, and put up a crazy fight against the Nets.

Only issue is the cap situation is going to be bad in 2021 if we go for Giannis. We'd have to re-sign Dipo & OG and Lowry has to sign for dirt cheap. Siakam is also eating to much cap for the way he's playing, and the all-nba kicker hurts us even more. Hopefully he turns it around
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#797 » by StringerBell » Mon Sep 21, 2020 10:09 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
TheAlchemist wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
I agree. But there really isn't a deal out there for a top 3 pick that makes sense.


You actually think La'Melo is gonna be good? Lonzo was the better prospect, had a better head on shoulders, and was more mature.

Lonzo looks like the poor mans version of Rondo.

I'm never going to associate my team and product with the Ball family.


Melo is definitely a better prospect than Lonzo was.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2889220-is-lamelo-ball-a-better-nba-draft-prospect-than-lonzo-at-19#:~:text=Lonzo's%20MPG%20vs.&text=Lonzo%20played%20more%20(35.1%20minutes,compared%20to%20LaMelo's%2027.7%20percent.&text=LaMelo%20ran%20the%20NBL's%20worst,per%20game%20to%20Lonzo's%209.5).


LaMelo's ceiling is so much higher than his brothers. He's already demonstrated the ability to shoot off the dribble from deep, shown a mid range game/floater, knows how to run a pnr and has size to finish at the rim. Add that to his feel for the game, elite passing and court vision.....if he has just average work ethic, sky's the limit. With the right team and head coach he should cut down on the bad shots and become a more disciplined player. Big question that GM's will have to assess is his mental make up.
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Re: 2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2 

Post#798 » by jayu70 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:47 pm

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HeadtopChunes wrote:What are the best Norm trades you can come up with?

How about Norm to the Twolves for 17 and a future 2nd?

Maybe the Hawks would be interested?

Norm for lottery protected 2021 1st round pick, Miami's 2020 second round pick

Powell's ability to opt out makes him a 1 year rental. Don't see the Hawks offering substantive value. They traded #17 for a 26 year old Capela locked in for 3 years, that's your baseline for a team that's rebuilding.
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Post#799 » by Psubs » Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:10 am

baller16 wrote:Dipo & Turner on this team would be my ideal trade, but I don't know if we can get it done.

Lowry/Dipo/OG/Siakam/Turner

That's a nasty team. We get younger and we also get a legit SG. We'd probably have the number 1 defense in the league too.

We'd probably beat the Celtics & Heat next season, and put up a crazy fight against the Nets.

Only issue is the cap situation is going to be bad in 2021 if we go for Giannis. We'd have to re-sign Dipo & OG and Lowry has to sign for dirt cheap. Siakam is also eating to much cap for the way he's playing, and the all-nba kicker hurts us even more. Hopefully he turns it around


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Post#800 » by Mr Swagtastic » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:06 am

Psubs wrote:
StopitLeo wrote:
TD2FutureStar wrote:Covington would fit in nicely. Stanimal+McCaw+1st+2nd for Roco. Not sure what else we could offer....


Covington is obviously better than Stanley and McCaw, but not enough that I'm adding picks to get him.


What about Covington and Tucker for Sign & Traded Ibaka!!! Ibaka reunites with Westbrook and Harden. Houston Rocket's Thunder!!!

PG Westbrook - Clemons
SG Harden - Gordon
SF House - Harden
PF Clark? - FA - FA
C Ibaka - FA

Would Norm want to play in home state and with buddy Kawhi? Powell for S&T Harrell. Harrell deserves more than the MLE but not over $20 million. $15 million with the cap going down? $16-14.5-16-17.5 million. Just making use of the Harrell rumour.

PG Lowry - TD
SG FVV - OG - Thomas
SF OG - RoCo
PF Siakam - OG - Tucker
C Harrell - Tucker/Dewan

Draft the best big available at #29.


Don't want Harrell he's a suspect defender think his numbers aren't what I think they would be here. Paying him for 4 years might be a mistake, if you get Covington and Tucker for Ibaka take it and run. Tucker is decent as a backup SF or PF and you run Siakam at the C with Covington and Anunoby as your starting front court. Go after Giles and possibly Noel to split the MLE. Gives you this team

PG: Lowry/Davis/VanVleet
SG: VanVleet/Powell/Thomas
SF: Anunoby/Tucker/Powell
PF: Covington/Giles/Boucher
C: Siakam/Noel/Boucher

That's not bad you got everyone in your starting lineup who can shoot the three and are plus defenders. The backup team is a bit suspect but think Tucker really helps them out and that team maintains 2021 cap space
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