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God Squad wrote:720 wrote:
Barnes putting up impressive numbers with nothing being run for him. If he keeps this up ROY no doubt.
Unless Barnes and Siakam manage to co-exist this award is Mobleys to lose. He's that good already.
Vs New York
Mobley 11-15 shooting 26 pts +26 with 9 reb, 5 assist , 1 blk, 1 stl.
God Squad wrote:720 wrote:
Barnes putting up impressive numbers with nothing being run for him. If he keeps this up ROY no doubt.
Unless Barnes and Siakam manage to co-exist this award is Mobleys to lose. He's that good already.
Vs New York
Mobley 11-15 shooting 26 pts +26 with 9 reb, 5 assist , 1 blk, 1 stl.
Los_29 wrote:If you think Scottie doesn't get enough plays run through him you should watch the Cavs with Evan Mobley. Nearly every basket he had last night was a result of others setting him up for open dunks, wide open shots.
Scottie is far more involved in the offense than Mobley is with the Cavs.
Los_29 wrote:If you think Scottie doesn't get enough plays run through him you should watch the Cavs with Evan Mobley. Nearly every basket he had last night was a result of others setting him up for open dunks, wide open shots.
Scottie is far more involved in the offense than Mobley is with the Cavs.
wtcantfw wrote:Los_29 wrote:If you think Scottie doesn't get enough plays run through him you should watch the Cavs with Evan Mobley. Nearly every basket he had last night was a result of others setting him up for open dunks, wide open shots.
Scottie is far more involved in the offense than Mobley is with the Cavs.
Your two points are contradictory. Mobley gets set up a lot for shots by his teammates, but Scottie is more involved in our offense? How sway.
EDIT - unless you mean as an initiator?
Ong_dynasty wrote:I just want to say. that steal on Durant yesterday. that is grown man move. to basically bully durant that way. He wasnt perfect and durant made him silly in a few shots (like the jumper in the first half when barnes backed off). but that move if that was kawhi that would be a highlight.
Ong_dynasty wrote:I just want to say. that steal on Durant yesterday. that is grown man move. to basically bully durant that way. He wasnt perfect and durant made him silly in a few shots (like the jumper in the first half when barnes backed off). but that move if that was kawhi that would be a highlight.
galacticos2 wrote:MLB needs to introduce an Amnesty clause. Bautista would be my first victim.
Yup, even against the Raps, Mobley was just taking open 3s and dunks created by others. Barnes is self creating a lot more.Los_29 wrote:If you think Scottie doesn't get enough plays run through him you should watch the Cavs with Evan Mobley. Nearly every basket he had last night was a result of others setting him up for open dunks, wide open shots.
Scottie is far more involved in the offense than Mobley is with the Cavs.
GooniesNeverDie wrote:Scottie can't have the ball in hands too often right now because he isn't good at breaking down the D to get others looks.. lot of his assists don't result from off the dribble kickouts (eye test, tell me if I'm wrong). He's still a bit wild when he attempts that but he always has the right idea in mind. Hopefully they're watching film to find those opportunities. He's so good at getting to his spot for his shot, and once he figures out how to get to spots for passes.. I'd make him 1A primary ballhandler.
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AbC? wrote:You guys are so predictable and lame with your criticisms lol.
Now Nurse is the guy responsible for Barnes not getting enough touches or shots up. Or that we're not running enough plays for him.
The same Nurse who said after Barnes took 17 shots that it wasn't enough and he should be taking more.
Even after tonight's game unprompted he said Barnes should have been more aggressive looking for his shot:
It's clear from his pre-draft scouting and from comments from Nurse that they've had to coax him into being more aggressive looking for his own shots. He's been a pass-first team guy his entire life. He's already taken more shots in an NBA game than he's ever had in college or HS. The fact that our coaching staff has already put him in a position to be right up there among the rookie leaders in points and shot attempts should be encouraging. 2 games with <10 shot attempts doesn't negate that in any way. It's clear that his development is a huge priority for the entire organization, they're not stupid.
It's possible for Barnes not to have a great game without it being the fault of everyone else around him.
Rebel INS wrote:Is it the craziest thing to think that maybe Nurse and co are drawing up and running plays for Scottie on purpose?
Taking into account Nurse is as vocally supportive of Scottie taking shots and being involved in the offense as any raps coach has ever been with a rook, Masai has explicitly called this a development year and Scottie is a instant lockerroom favorite and its realistically not a situation where egos will bristle at a rookie getting plays run for him
In light of all that, could the plan here just to be to make the no.1 priority developing Scottie's ability to create his own shot, as well as push him to find his own looks/assert himself? Ie; we could run pnr trying to feed Scottie a couple easy roll buckets a game, but the real vision for his future is as the guy you clear out a halfcourt iso - and while he's not necessarily gonna get isos called anytime soon, our primary development focus is building the foundation for that through the type of 1 v 1 takes against a mismatch that comprise a good chunk of his scoring right now
Lmao why would you doubt that? Scottie is the most important person in the franchise right now and I'm certain management and the coaching staff knows this. They 100% have a long term plan in mind (they are elite at development) and 1 game won't mean much at the end.Madhouse wrote:Rebel INS wrote:Is it the craziest thing to think that maybe Nurse and co are drawing up and running plays for Scottie on purpose?
Taking into account Nurse is as vocally supportive of Scottie taking shots and being involved in the offense as any raps coach has ever been with a rook, Masai has explicitly called this a development year and Scottie is a instant lockerroom favorite and its realistically not a situation where egos will bristle at a rookie getting plays run for him
In light of all that, could the plan here just to be to make the no.1 priority developing Scottie's ability to create his own shot, as well as push him to find his own looks/assert himself? Ie; we could run pnr trying to feed Scottie a couple easy roll buckets a game, but the real vision for his future is as the guy you clear out a halfcourt iso - and while he's not necessarily gonna get isos called anytime soon, our primary development focus is building the foundation for that through the type of 1 v 1 takes against a mismatch that comprise a good chunk of his scoring right now
I doubt it as Nurse wants to win games and it doesn't explain why they aren't feeding him in the post when he has Garland or Bruce Brown on him.
It will help him in the long run certainly that he is scoring the majority of his points unassisted but I doubt there is a strategy behind it.
OakleyDokely wrote:34.8 minutes, 16.6 points, 8.7 rebounds, 2.4 assists, 1.1 steals, 0.7 blocks, 52.4 FG%, 20.0 3pt%, 70.8 FT, 554 TS
If you gave me those stats at the beginning of the year, I would've told you that those would be his 3rd year numbers. He's doing that in his rookie year. He's way ahead of schedule.
This season should about his growth. Winning ROY would be nice, but it's not everything. I'd rather have him create more for himself even it means more misses. I prefer that to just taking open dunks and 3s that others have created for him. But that doesn't mean he should be force fed touches. He's not ready for a huge role quite yet.
Barnes is already playing close to 35 minutes a game and taking 14 shots. That's a lot for a rookie, especially one that was described as a project coming into the season.brownbobcat wrote:OakleyDokely wrote:34.8 minutes, 16.6 points, 8.7 rebounds, 2.4 assists, 1.1 steals, 0.7 blocks, 52.4 FG%, 20.0 3pt%, 70.8 FT, 554 TS
If you gave me those stats at the beginning of the year, I would've told you that those would be his 3rd year numbers. He's doing that in his rookie year. He's way ahead of schedule.
This season should about his growth. Winning ROY would be nice, but it's not everything. I'd rather have him create more for himself even it means more misses. I prefer that to just taking open dunks and 3s that others have created for him. But that doesn't mean he should be force fed touches. He's not ready for a huge role quite yet.
People are too obsessed with new, shiny things and want to push way too much on his plate. He has a very, very good chance of getting there one day, but he's not ready today - they're 11 games in for chrissakes. This team ain't winning a championship, so it's critical to get the development process right.
From a technical perspective, Scottie's handle and footwork still lag behind his ball IQ. He excels in transition or broken plays because that's where his instinct, length and motor are nearly unmatchable.
