DD and Sonny = Vince and T-Mac?

ruckus · Post #81 » by **ruckus** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:51 am

SniperHawk10 wrote:
Choker wrote:Jack=Mark Price
DeRozan=Vince Carter
Weems=Tracy McGrady
Amir=Marcus Camby
Bargnani=Dirk Nowitzki
Davis=Jermaine O'neal
Calderon=Steve Nash
Belinelli=Ray Allen
Leandro=Barbosa

We have a stacked ass team.

LMFAO This is why i love living in toronto man:)

They don't have teh internetz outside of Toronto?

JamesNaismith · Post #82 » by **JamesNaismith** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 3:54 am

This thread should be locked.

YoungD23 · Post #83 » by **YoungD23** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:09 am

He probably seen my sig first>

U_Mad · Post #84 » by **U_Mad** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:20 am

i only hope

Mr Burns · Post #85 » by **Mr Burns** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 4:28 am

Well we all know how this will play out. Weems will sign else where because he doesn't want to play in the shadow of Demar. A few years later, Demar will become injury prone, demand a trade while playing like absolute crap.

just23 · Post #86 » by **just23** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:20 am

Neither of them has nearly the talent Vince had. He was a once every ten years kind of athlete. T-Mac wasn't far behind in athleticism either and at his best, was arguably the better player. I like Demar and Sonny, but to mention them in the same sentence as those guys is a joke.

JamesNaismith · Post #87 » by **JamesNaismith** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:20 am

If anyone thinks these guys are similar they are high.

The only commonality is Weems being in DeRozan's shadow and the athleticism although both Carter and TMac were better respectively.

When it comes to SKILL Vince Carter and McGrady absolutely OWN these 2 and would make them bench warmers I don't care what age they were/are.

Beauge · Post #88 » by **Beauge** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 5:40 am

Choker wrote:Jack=Mark Price
Jack=Mark Price
DeRozan=Vince Carter
Weems=Tracy McGrady
Amir=Marcus Camby
Bargnani=Dirk Nowitzki
Davis=Jermaine O'neal
Calderon=Steve Nash
Belinelli=Ray Allen
Leandro=Barbosa

We have a stacked ass team.

How about:

Jack=Magic
DeRozan=Jordan
Weems=Kobe
Amir=Bill Russell
Joey Dorsey=William "The Refrigerator Perry"
Bargnani=Wilt Chamberlain
Davis=Karl Malone
Calderon=Pistol Pete
Belinelli=Petrovic
Leandro=Sam Worhtington (Avatar)
Banks=The Big O
Reggie=Barkley
Alabi=Olajuwon
Kleiz=Bird
Dwayne Jones=Uros Slokar

WhatsaTDot · Post #89 » by **WhatsaTDot** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:34 am

Choker wrote:
WhatsaTDot wrote:A 6'4 SF? Yeah, that's gonna work wonders.

Isn't he 6'6? Besides his wingspan isn't too bad for his position, 6'10, so he should be good.

In shoes AND rounding up (6'5.5"). He's 6'4 w/o shoes which is how the rest of the world measures people

bballsparkin · Post #90 » by **bballsparkin** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:40 am

vinsanity11 wrote:

lol

Perfect picture.

Paul John 2 · Post #91 » by **Paul John 2** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:45 am

Probably more... Josh Howard and Kelenna Azubuike

basketball420 · Post #92 » by **basketball420** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:54 am

From a long and suffering Raptors fan...T Mac and Vince were honestly in my opinion two of the best players to come into the league in the last 15 - 25 years...mis-coached, mishandled, mismanaged..COULD have been two of the best players EVER..imagine those two in a solid franchise with a great coach...we would be talking first ballot H.O.F...trust me I have been following the NBA since 1983...they are once in a lifetime "talents"...between the ears not even close but god given talent and athletic ability...I would say only Dominique Wilkins, MJ, Shawn Kemp and maybe Kobe come close...also keep in mind Kobe worked his ASS off to become the athlete he has become...
Instead I think wow what a shame the way their careers went, the franchise went and ultimately the league. They COULD have been huge together. Sports is a funny thing, That's what makes greatness so great becuase there are so many opportunities for it to take a bad turn, so many variables like injuries, drugs, bad decisions...as great as MJ was, he was also a product of great circumstances

WhatsaTDot · Post #93 » by **WhatsaTDot** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:34 am

basketball420 wrote:From a long and suffering Raptors fan...T Mac and Vince were honestly in my opinion two of the best players to come into the league in the last 15 - 25 years...mis-coached, mishandled, mismanaged..COULD have been two of the best players EVER..imagine those two in a solid franchise with a great coach...we would be talking first ballot H.O.F...trust me I have been following the NBA since 1983...they are once in a lifetime "talents"...between the ears not even close but god given talent and athletic ability...I would say only Dominique Wilkins, MJ, Shawn Kemp and maybe Kobe come close...also keep in mind Kobe worked his ASS off to become the athlete he has become...
Instead I think wow what a shame the way their careers went, the franchise went and ultimately the league. They COULD have been huge together. Sports is a funny thing, That's what makes greatness so great becuase there are so many opportunities for it to take a bad turn, so many variables like injuries, drugs, bad decisions...as great as MJ was, he was also a product of great circumstances

I would say you need to give some more thought to your VERY short list of most athletic players of the last 30 years. And I would argue against asking people to 'trust me'. It doesnt add any support to an argument.

Ripp · Post #94 » by **Ripp** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:43 am

basketball420 wrote:From a long and suffering Raptors fan...T Mac and Vince were honestly in my opinion two of the best players to come into the league in the last 15 - 25 years...mis-coached, mishandled, mismanaged..COULD have been two of the best players EVER..imagine those two in a solid franchise with a great coach...we would be talking first ballot H.O.F...trust me I have been following the NBA since 1983...they are once in a lifetime "talents"...between the ears not even close but god given talent and athletic ability...I would say only Dominique Wilkins, MJ, Shawn Kemp and maybe Kobe come close...also keep in mind Kobe worked his ASS off to become the athlete he has become...
Instead I think wow what a shame the way their careers went, the franchise went and ultimately the league. They COULD have been huge together. Sports is a funny thing, That's what makes greatness so great becuase there are so many opportunities for it to take a bad turn, so many variables like injuries, drugs, bad decisions...as great as MJ was, he was also a product of great circumstances

Agree with a lot of this. TMac in particular should have had a much, much better career than Kobe. Unfortunately, things did not work out...

appel · Post #95 » by **appel** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:04 am

...c.a.p... wrote:http://tweetphoto.com/33896144

From Demar's twitter. Personally, I think they are getting ahead of themselves...but I can't help but be excited.

personally I think these guys have turned a spotlight on themselves without having reason.
I knew a Raptors player who liked to make himself the focus using Internet
But after some seasons

these guys are exalting himself too soon

DasKoo · Post #96 » by **DasKoo** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:22 am

...c.a.p... wrote:http://tweetphoto.com/33896144

From Demar's twitter. Personally, I think they are getting ahead of themselves...but I can't help but be excited.

these guys are in for a hard, hard, hard awakening.

Kabookalu · Post #97 » by **Kabookalu** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 9:25 am

Shoot for the moon, settle for the stars.

And1+2 · Post #98 » by **And1+2** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:20 am

TMac in his prime, before injury was showing glimpses of being possibly the best offensive player ever.

Yes... ever.

Vince Carter in his prime, like him or hate him, was probably close to the best player in the league at the time.

DD and Weems are not even CLOSE to their level, even if you're counting potential.

raptorsam · Post #99 » by **raptorsam** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 10:49 am

Choker wrote:Shoot for the moon, settle for the stars.

that made no sense

[SJJ] · Post #100 » by **[SJJ]** » Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:06 pm

And1+2 wrote:TMac in his prime, before injury was showing glimpses of being possibly the best offensive player ever.

Yes... ever.

Vince Carter in his prime, like him or hate him, was probably close to the best player in the league at the time.

DD and Weems are not even CLOSE to their level, even if you're counting potential.

I agree on all accounts. A healthy Orlando T'mac was something scary, dude could score 45 without getting out of bed.