Official Raptors 2011 NBA Draft Thread

[gerrit4]

This is my sleeper pick if we slip into the 7-14 range.

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I'm looking forward to seeing more of these prospects, but so far I like: Barnes, Irving, Kanter, Vesely.

I'm leery about Knight, Selby, Motiejunas, Sullinger.

Would like to see more of Jones, Henson, Melo, Valanciunas.

I hate judging guys by their highlight reel (especially in high school),but he doesn't look like he'll be a sleeper for long. Damn that's impressive!

[RaptorsElite]

I dont watch college ball and was wondering if there are any great propects? another question i have is what is the current 3 point streak among all teams??? Thanks!!!!!!!!

[Hendrix]

Too early to give an accurate reading on the draft. At this point there doesnt appear to be an LBJ out there. Other then that it looks like there's some interesting prospects out there at this point in time who have the potential to have great years, but it's going to be a few months before seeing who rises and who falls.

[RaptorsElite]

the 2010 draft was crap, its only john wall. everyone else in that draft just seems like a role player.

[Waylon Mercy]

Ive warmed up to Kanter....

But I think "need" will play a big part with other Lotto teams...

I'd imagine Minny and Philly would love to get Kanter same with Detroit.

Hard to tell what the Clippers would do... They have Aminu and Gordon but I could
see them drafting another wing. They have Baron and Bledsoe and I could see them getting
Irving if hes on the board.

Probably no lotto team has a pressing need for PG then the Raps so Irving might fall to us....

Theres a good crop of Centers in the FA market so the Raps might pass on Kanter and Fab Melo...

DeRozan is a complimentary wing.... So if we get a top 2 pick its hard to pass on Barnes and Jones...

Raps have to Draft Best Possible player though regardless of position...

[Hendrix]

the 2010 draft was crap, its only john wall. everyone else in that draft just seems like a role player.

These guys are 4-6 games into their **** in' career, lol. You cant judge what the draft will be yet.

As well, Favors has been a beast in his time. 19 years old, and putting up PER 36 #'s of 15 points, 12 rebounds, and ..641ts%

Cousins has had trouble with fouls, and had some rook nights. But he's still putting up per 36#'s of 19/9 out of the gate. No indication that is a role player.

Plenty of others could burst out too if given more then a couple weeks

[DG88]

Ive warmed up to Kanter....

But I think "need" will play a big part with other Lotto teams...

I'd imagine Minny and Philly would love to get Kanter same with Detroit.

Hard to tell what the Clippers would do... They have Aminu and Gordon but I could
see them drafting another wing. They have Baron and Bledsoe and I could see them getting
Irving if hes on the board.

Probably no lotto team has a pressing need for PG then the Raps so Irving might fall to us....

Theres a good crop of Centers in the FA market so the Raps might pass on Kanter and Fab Melo...

DeRozan is a complimentary wing.... So if we get a top 2 pick its hard to pass on Barnes and Jones...

Raps have to Draft Best Possible player though regardless of position...

would not surprise me if the Clippers grab Irving, looks like the Clippers have had enough of Baron Davis

[Hendrix]

Anybody seen a lot of Kanter?

I've seen a very small amount of him, and dont really have any stats to go on. He seemed like he had a good offensive touch. But how's his defense and rebounding? Also draft express has him at 6'10", and only 7'1" wingspan, as well as not a great athelete. Seems kinda worrying from a physical standpoint to make a defensive impact in the NBA no?

[DG88]

Anybody seen a lot of Kanter?

I've seen a very small amount of him, and dont really have any stats to go on. He seemed like he had a good offensive touch. But how's his defense and rebounding? Also draft express has him at 6'10", and only 7'1" wingspan, as well as not a great athelete. Seems kinda worrying from a physical standpoint to make a defensive impact in the NBA no?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YzbhAQGPqk[/youtube]
This is the only thing I saw on Enes Kanter

[Truthrising]

Anybody seen a lot of Kanter?

I've seen a very small amount of him, and dont really have any stats to go on. He seemed like he had a good offensive touch. But how's his defense and rebounding? Also draft express has him at 6'10", and only 7'1" wingspan, as well as not a great athelete. Seems kinda worrying from a physical standpoint to make a defensive impact in the NBA no?

Same here, I just watched a bit of highlights and read his bio via draftxpress, in regards to his rebounding this is what draftexpress had noted:

4 months later they have written this piece about him after he was the leading rebounding in U-18 European Championship(And he was just 16 years old at that time going against players 2 years older than him):
"Cadet Monster

A cadet topping the rebounding ranking in a European junior championship isn’t the most common thing seen in basketball. Actually, I’m not even sure it has ever happened. Enes Kanter did it.

Showing comparable strength to a junior -if not superior- in his 6-9 body, Kanter is not about jumping out of the gym. The kid shows decent athleticism, but his leaping ability is not top notch. On the contrary, he relies on his superb positioning, willingness to pursue the ball on both ends of the court, and excellent timing. Kanter uses both arms, and isn’t scared to leave the ground even in horizontal moves (many players fear for their ankles in these situations), so his rebounding range is pretty good. He also enjoys terrific hands to grab the ball, and the poise to know when to make every effort. The only downside we see in his rebounding display is the fact that he’s not much about boxing out opponents, as much as he is about going out and grabbing the rebound, which isn’t necessarily the best option team-wise.

Averaging 14.6 captures per game, Kanter surpassed the 20-rebound mark on three separate occasions, and earned himself a place on the all-tournament team, despite the fact that Turkey finished ninth in the championship.

[Hendrix]

Meh, he doesnt seem like a great fit for this team. Dude looks like he'll provide very minimal lane intimidation, which isn\'t awesome beside Bargs. Not sure how the rest of his game will translate to the NBA either with his athletisism/size. Although I'm all about BPA. So we'll have to see how everything shakes out.

[SkywalkerAC]

actually Kanter and Bargnani would be quite a big, formidable 4/5 combo methinks, though Davis's shotblocking will be huge off the bench. kanter sounds like a superb rebounder and inside scorer with great hands, which sounds like a nice complement to AB. yes, a great athlete, shotblocker would be nice but those guys (D. Jordan, Oden, Ajinca, etc) rarely turn out to be legit players for any length of time. often it's the big guys that can't get off the ground but can get to the spot and grab rebounds and finish around the hoop that have the longest and most productive careers.

[Truthrising]

Meh, he doesnt seem like a great fit for this team. Dude looks like he'll provide very minimal lane intimidation, which isn\'t awesome beside Bargs. Not sure how the rest of his game will translate to the NBA either with his athletisism/size. Although I'm all about BPA. So we'll have to see how everything shakes out.

I think he may be able to big fit beside Bargnani as he's a really good rebounder, he looks like a player that likes to play close to the basket, ability to go through contact and finish along being a good free throw shooter

This was also posted on NBAdraft.net

A tremendous rebounder. Plays with a high motor and enjoys contact, Has a strong frame and a high basketball IQ … Has a scorers mentality. Owns a diverse offensive game with the ability to use post moves and strength to score on his opponent or face the basket and knock down mind-range jumpshots … Has the strength to muscle through contact and finish … Smooth offensive game. Has a soft touch and excellent shooting motion … Good free throw shooter … Has legitimate center size. Measured 6-11, 261 lbs at the LeBron James Skills Academy in July … Possesses great dexterity and body control for a bigman … Coachable kid with a positive attitude and strong work ethic,

But yeah it still too early to tell, ill just wait and see how all the players do in college this year.

[Waylon Mercy]

Anybody seen a lot of Kanter?

I've seen a very small amount of him, and dont really have any stats to go on. He seemed like he had a good offensive touch. But how's his defense and rebounding? Also draft express has him at 6'10", and only 7'1" wingspan, as well as not a great athelete. Seems kinda worrying from a physical standpoint to make a defensive impact in the NBA no?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YzbhAQGPqk[/youtube]
This is the only thing I saw on Enes Kanter

Thanks for the video...Well PJ Carlisemo likes Kanter because im pretty sure thats him
doing color commentary in that video. Kanter isn't your typical "Soft" Euro I see him
in the Al Horford/Marc Gasol mold. I don't think he has "franchise" talent as Barnes, Jones,
and Irving do but in that 4-7 part of the Lottery hes gonna be a good solid pick. I see Minny
and Philly really targeting him since they have pressing needs for a center.

I just have a feeling the Raps will go after Marc Gasol/Chandler/Yao/Dalembert in Free Agency
and go after one of the star Guard/Wings....Barnes, Jones, Iriving, Selby.

Some people don't consider Perry Jones a Wing but hes definitely gonna be a SF in the NBA
with his skillset.

However if we got the 4th pick and Kanter is the best player available on the board I wouldn't
complain if we got him.

[SkywalkerAC]

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/20 ... study-job/

–Enes Kanter, 6-10 freshman post, Kentucky: The much-ballyhooed native of Turkey played some pro ball in his homeland, and it shows, as his patience and savvy in the post, polished post moves, grown-man strength, soft touch out to the mid-range area, and dominant boardwork makes up for not having superior athleticism, although it isn’t too shabby.

somehow i don't see this guy being anything less than a double-double big man in the NBA. I wonder what he can do at Kentucky - is he getting eligibility or what?

it's funny how one forms a mental picture of such a player in spite of having seen and even read so little. it's what we do.

we do know that he's a blue-chip prospect for one of the best programs going and has had plenty of international experience for his age. sounds like an amazing rebounder and we know all too well the importance of that skill. big hands, post skills, passion for the game. sounds like a no-brainer to me. also sounds like the only true 5 in this draft.

[SkywalkerAC]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvko4VUYuKQ[/youtube]

dude's going to get a lot bigger in years to come as well.

[RomaniaLuvTR]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvko4VUYuKQ[/youtube]

dude's going to get a lot bigger in years to come as well.

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[saciid_11]

This draft is allot like 2005 draft ...

Barnes Harrison ... to me this guy is almost identical to Marvin William, who knows maybe he is better than Marvin, but I have feeling that he will never be a guy you build team around like Wade, Kobe, Lebron, Vince, TMAC, Kevin Durant, ...he might be Brandon Roy type of player though.

Kyri Irving .... Maybe scouts are right he might be the second coming of Chris Paul or they could be wrong like they where wrong about Mike Conley ... either way Mike Conley is not a bad comparism.

Perry Jones .... Just little video I watched the guy moves like Rashard Lewis with a better ball handling and worse shooter... This guy is all potential, if he has the will to work hard, he has more potential than anyone in this draft. But potential don't get you anywhere if you don't have the work ethic.

Kanter .... He is built like Kevin love and he plays like Kevin Love... but what makes Kevin Love great player is his bbIQ ...we will see if Kanter has any in Kentucky.... but either way he is not a good fit in Toronto .


Brandon Knight ... They compare him to Jason Terry which is not bad, but I don't know why they didn't compare the kid to Gilbert Arenas who he plays like... Good scoring instinct, good ballhandling, already good shooter... Sleeper of the draft


Kanter= Boguta
Barnes= Marvin William
Irving = Chris Paul
Perry Jones=? Martell Webster
Knight = Deron William( In NBA Gilbert Arenas type of PG)

[Truthrising]

This draft is allot like 2005 draft ...

Barnes Harrison ... to me this guy is almost identical to Marvin William, who knows maybe he is better than Marvin, but I have feeling that he will never be a guy you build team around like Wade, Kobe, Lebron, Vince, TMAC, Kevin Durant, ...he might be Brandon Roy type of player though.

Kyri Irving .... Maybe scouts are right he might be the second coming of Chris Paul or they could be wrong like they where wrong about Mike Conley ... either way Mike Conley is not a bad comparism.

Perry Jones .... Just little video I watched the guy moves like Rashard Lewis with a better ball handling and worse shooter... This guy is all potential, if he has the will to work hard, he has more potential than anyone in this draft. But potential don't get you anywhere if you don't have the work ethic.

Kanter .... He is built like Kevin love and he plays like Kevin Love... but what makes Kevin Love great player is his bbIQ ...we will see if Kanter has any in Kentucky.... but either way he is not a good fit in Toronto .


Brandon Knight ... They compare him to Jason Terry which is not bad, but I don't know why they didn't compare the kid to Gilbert Arenas who he plays like... Good scoring instinct, good ballhandling, already good shooter... Sleeper of the draft


Kanter= Boguta
Barnes= Marvin William
Irving = Chris Paul
Perry Jones=? Martell Webster
Knight = Deron William( In NBA Gilbert Arenas type of PG)

Irving is pretty much my first choice if not possibly Knight, but if we miss the opportunity grabbing Irving than my second choice would be Kanter and try to maybe pickup Brandon knight later in the draft - As for Kanter, I think he'll fit in quite well based on the scouting reports - It looks like he can provide the post presence that we've been lacking ever since we had Antonio Davis.

[DG88]

These vids from the Nike Hoop Summit this past summer gives us a some insight on how some prospects that are within our range play. Plus we see our home ground Canadian prospects Cory Joseph and Tristan Thompson.
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