ESPN: Teams inquiring about Bargnani, Calderon

Magic Bean · Post #81 » by **Magic Bean** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:43 am

highness wrote:
bboyskinnylegs wrote:what do you think we can get for Bargs?

Something like Brandon Jennings or even Tyreke Evans.

This needs to be quoted before you ninja delete it like your last post. It's a good way to go if you want to make the team worse.

highness · Post #82 » by **highness** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:46 am

Magic Bean wrote:
highness wrote:
bboyskinnylegs wrote:what do you think we can get for Bargs?

Something like Brandon Jennings or even Tyreke Evans.

This needs to be quoted before you ninja delete it like your last post. It's a good way to go if you want to make the team worse.

I highly doubt we can be worse than what we already are :lol:

Post #83 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:58 am

ronleroy wrote:i would think bargs would be on the move, so he doesn't clog val. Jose shows flashes of offense, and he's better than anything we got.

Bargnani clogs female model/athletes.

This year's AB is the perfect PF for any true C in the league. Bynum, Dwight, M Gasol, Noah, anybody.

I'm looking at Val as a super-sized Amir, the size difference worth a metric tonne. If anything, AB will help Val's rolling game, as he does Amir's, by requiring constant attention when he clears the paint- out to 25 feet. Hopefully we have a PG who can run the P&R- Jose or another. And if he can also catch AB's interior passes the way Amir can, and finish, he might shoot 65% from the field as a rook.

Laowai · Post #84 » by **Laowai** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:05 am

I haven't a problem trading Jose even though he is playing extremely well and is worth his contract. Would trade him if we got value back LALs 2 picks or Felton and the blazers pick or some other scenario that we aren't stuck with unusable
goods.

Bargs if we got Davis I would consider it for something like Jennings and the Bucks pick or Rondo and a Boston pick and that is only if we were able to deal Jose.

Volcano · Post #85 » by **Volcano** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:11 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:Bargnani value isn't high enough to trade for a franchise guy nor is it low enough to where you should trade him for a solid prospect & pick. That solid prospect would look better with bargnani there anyway... Like trading Bargs for Jennings or Tyreke is hustlen backwards. Try adding those players with bargnani as those players by themselves would put us in no better position then we are today with bargs... If you wanna make a latteral move like that it isn't for the raps sake, its for the fact that ur not a bargs fan and would rather another pf... I mean some of us think Ed davis + bayless + a pick is good enough for jennings, and other would rather trade bargs for him as if we would be selling high on bargnani, com on......

you think Bargs is too good for a prospect + a pick? That could be like Jennings + an unprotected 1st. A lateral move would be adding someone the same age as Bargs with the same impact and the same risk of reverting to a defensive cancer.

If you don't think Bargnani's value is at an all time high, then you must be on crack. Like I said, keeping him is a risk and trading him is a risk. It just depends on which side you trust more.

TylerTheDebater · Post #86 » by **TylerTheDebater** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 6:53 am

Bargnani isn't going anywhere until it's for an All-Star (and a young one at that).

Calderon is going only for a young PG or some serious cap relief.

Bargnani isn't gone for less than Westbrook (I can almost bet BC has said this).

Calderon is staying until we get a legit starting PG or serious, serious cap space (and I can bet BC said this, too).

Calderon will not end up being traded and will resign for cheap afterward.
Bargnani is here until the end of his contract, unless someone makes a Godfather offer (doubt it). AB will be traded for a star player and a star player only, and that's only if our draft pick would take his spot in the line up. QUOTE ME ON THIS. Either it's a first overall pick problem or an offer you can't refuse problem. Again, Quote me. AB will never be traded for something like Stephen Jackson or Gerald Wallace.

Ballin · Post #87 » by **Ballin** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:14 am

It's nice of ESPN to talk about us but BC will never trade Bargnani and no one will take on Jose's horrendous contract.

Scraptor · Post #88 » by **Scraptor** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:19 am

So Bargnani WON'T be traded for Stephen Jackson? How the devil did you obtain this knowledge?

JaysRangers · Post #89 » by **JaysRangers** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 7:53 am

I don't see even Jose being moved because of his contract + Raptors not getting equal value + Not being a ideal team/trade scenario + him being a facilitator and the type of Point Guard that the organization would like to build with the young players.

I have a feeling Jose might be a Raptor for life lol.

6Ft Under · Post #90 » by **6Ft Under** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:32 am

It almost feels like yesterday when guys on this board felt bargs was worthless and we should just dump him for anything we could get. :roll:

G.A. Clone · Post #91 » by **G.A. Clone** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:33 am

Jose for Jeremy Lin :twisted:

MrBojangelz71 · Post #92 » by **MrBojangelz71** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:04 pm

Pseudonym wrote:
Hypz wrote:Honestly, I hope both stay, barring some amazing deals in return. They are the heart of the Raptors right now.

Then we need heart surgery.

Fairview4Life · Post #93 » by **Fairview4Life** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:05 pm

Only trade Bargs if we can draft Anthony Davis. Wait until the off season to find out.

NH · Post #94 » by NH » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:13 pm

Fairview4Life wrote:Only trade Bargs if we can draft Anthony Davis. Wait until the off season to find out.

+1 Bargnani is probably the only untouchable Raptor, but one has to be cautious of his health I guess. Not sure if he is just frail or if his injuries are by chance... Jose's contract is not that bad, he only has 1 year left after this season. It is possible to trade Jose to a team that needs stability in exchange for a young PG.

Fairview4Life · Post #95 » by **Fairview4Life** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:28 pm

NH wrote:
Fairview4Life wrote:Only trade Bargs if we can draft Anthony Davis. Wait until the off season to find out.

+1 Bargnani is probably the only untouchable Raptor, but one has to be cautious of his health I guess. Not sure if he is just frail or if his injuries are by chance... Jose's contract is not that bad, he only has 1 year left after this season. It is possible to trade Jose to a team that needs stability in exchange for a young PG.

I'd rather Davis and Valanciunas developing together, but he's the only PF in the draft I'd move Bargs to make room for.

tecumseh18 · Post #96 » by **tecumseh18** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:33 pm

Scraptor wrote:So Bargnani WON'T be traded for Stephen Jackson? How the devil did you obtain this knowledge?

I think the mods should delete his post until he can offer up legit sources for this extraordinary info.

MEDIC · Post #97 » by **MEDIC** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:49 pm

Jose is another bi-polarizing player.

Right now we're seeing good Jose, but I think he'll go back to bad Jose (hot potato Jose).

I'd deal him for anything that involved a mid 1st round pick & a decent expiring.

The problem is, I think teams are trying to get him for nothing.

Trading Bargnani? C'mon....

Superiorblogman · Post #98 » by **Superiorblogman** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:53 pm

Teams make big mistakes keeping guys for too long. Barg is not leading you to wins just like Bogut is not leading Milwaukee to wins. You would do yourself some justice by unloading him with unwanted contracts and or for future picks.

djsunyc · Post #99 » by **djsunyc** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:55 pm

Superiorblogman wrote:Teams make big mistakes keeping guys for too long. Barg is not leading you to wins just like Bogut is not leading Milwaukee to wins. You would do yourself some justice by unloading him with unwanted contracts and or for future picks.

so the sucktitude can continue for another 5 years...

theonlyeastcoastrapsfan · Post #100 » by **theonlyeastcoastrapsfan** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:58 pm

It's funny how the players many here valued least, are the ones most sought after, and the player many here valued so highly, have little interest at all.

Seriously, you can say oh but there's no way to predict lighting would strike with Bargs improvement as it's such an outlier, but what value do you really think DeMar or Ed have at this point in the league? What do you think they could get you? Even as main pieces in a package? What value did you think they had at the end of last season?