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Feschuk: Masai contemplating a step back next year, Lowry trade

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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#81 » by Big Shot » Wed May 13, 2015 11:27 pm

Tacoma wrote:So, if Casey is back, I expect that Lowry will be gone because he asked for a trade. And Feschuk's trashing of Lowry is stupid. Masai should call him up and tell him to STFU because the last thing Masai needs now is to have Lowry's trade value lowered even further. He gave Lowry $48M and now he has to sell it. Lets hope it's not at a discount.


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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#82 » by Bankai » Wed May 13, 2015 11:27 pm

What boggles my mind is that we have been watching Casey for years, and most of the fanbase has already turned on Casey, they have seen enough. He had a pass when he had tank teams but getting embarrased with good teams was the last straw. Americans probobly dont watch the Raptors much, Wizards fans probably dont watch the Raptors much, they thought their Coach Wittman was the dumbest in the East if not the NBA. But it only took them watching 4 Playoff games to conclude that their actually is a coach more worse than Wittman and that they might not have it so bad. The perception of Wittman has changed, "Our coach is dumb but at least we dont have Casey.." The Raptors have an embarrassment on their hands, one so great, that other fanbases/experts/coaches have also watched those 4 Playoff games this season and came to the same conclusion. They are offering their condolences to the Raptor fanbase, because they might have to continue to put up with it. They are figuring out themselves why it went so wrong for the Raptors. They are wondering why Casey did the things he did and said the things he said. And finally they are wondering why it looks like Casey will we safe.

The only people who is looking across the Room from this growing Anti-Casey Camp are a few select members of Toronto Sports Media. They find that keeping Casey is a good move and all of us on this side of the room are all crazy. I have already questioned the legitimacy of Toronto Media owning Toronto Sports Franchises, and this might continue to be a growing problem. Are they really that behind Casey because they see something in him? Or are they behind Casey just to be the devils advocate? Who knows what their motives are but the Raptors have an embarrassment on their hands. And lots of people cannot stand watching it continue to grow before more harm is done.
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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#83 » by Clutch Carter » Wed May 13, 2015 11:29 pm

Tanking with Casey? We going for 9th?
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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#84 » by Kenyon009 » Wed May 13, 2015 11:37 pm

If the Raptors tank Casey should be in on it. The building a culture thing is stupid as hell, what the **** does that even mean? At the end of the day the problem is with Casey, Lowry, and DeRozan. Casey and DeRozan aren't championship pieces and Lowry has small man syndrome. If anyone needs to be traded it's all of these guys. Start over and start new, bring an actual good basketball brain to the NBA like Messina. I'm tired of recycling other NBA teams garbage.
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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#85 » by JYD » Wed May 13, 2015 11:43 pm

Tanking is the wrong word, but we could easily deal DD and Lowry for picks and try to max a young RFA, which could have us with 4 or 5 good young players growing together instead of 1 (or 2 if counting Bruno), and the maxed RFA as the only sizable contract on the books. That puts you in a much better position to succeed, with both internal growth potential and the potential to sign FAs.
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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#86 » by changes » Wed May 13, 2015 11:44 pm

Masai is a fraud. He will continue the mediocrity of first round exists BC provided for him. He should have rebuilt this garbage 2 years ago. This team has 0 core players. DeBrick, Midget and BigPylon are trash that barely fit in todays NBA.
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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#87 » by JYD » Wed May 13, 2015 11:45 pm

changes wrote:Masai is a fraud. He will continue the mediocrity of first round exists BC provided for him. He should have rebuilt this garbage 2 years ago. This team has 0 core players, Derozan, Lowry and Valanciunas are trash that barely fit in todays NBA.


I really think he deserves judgement but not until after the offseason. But no later than that also, he needs to show some clear direction starting now, not next offseason.
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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#88 » by stealthmode » Wed May 13, 2015 11:59 pm

I don't want to tank. That makes watching games unbearable. I don't want to be the 76ers and have an arena full of empty seats. I'd rather hover around the 45 win mark for the next couple of years and at least make the playoffs for some excitement
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Post#89 » by Dr Octagon » Thu May 14, 2015 12:05 am

DUNPHY wrote:Trading Lowry is a HUGE mistake... Lowry was INJURED! He was literally beasting it out for a year straight before the all star break! Hell come back full force!

Casey is obviously the problem here...

Im really starting to question Masai if this rumour is true..

Ill wait until he actually makes a move before I judge though

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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#90 » by knickerbocker2k2 » Thu May 14, 2015 12:25 am

Tacoma wrote:And I've said it before and I'll say it again: this team goes as Lowry goes. When Gay was traded it was Lowry who picked it up to lead this team and he almost made the all star game last year and made it this year. Without Lowry, this team is a borderline playoff-lottery team. So as far as us winning is concern, Lowry holds the cards and Masai knows it.


You take out any of our starters, and this is borderline playoff team. Amir/Lou are UFA, and if we let them walk without replacing them, we are at best borderline playoff team.

Lowry has being our best player last couple of seasons, but he is not irreplaceable. PG is the most stacked position in this league. Lowry performance in 2015 has been average to mediocre. If Masai can get assets for Lowry I think you pull that trigger. Based on the Lowry we saw in 2015 and in the playoffs, this team would be much better with stop gap PG like Mo Williams/Lin/Etc
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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#91 » by UneducatedFan86 » Thu May 14, 2015 12:34 am

I only want Casey back, if it's because we have totally revamped this roster and Masai isn't sure that we will be successful next season. Then it's about saving money, instead of just simply signing a new coach to "tank" next year. But, if you want a year to tank, next season is a good one. There are some AMAZING young talents going into college next year.
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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#92 » by UnderdogRaptors » Thu May 14, 2015 12:48 am

UneducatedFan86 wrote:I only want Casey back, if it's because we have totally revamped this roster and Masai isn't sure that we will be successful next season. Then it's about saving money, instead of just simply signing a new coach to "tank" next year. But, if you want a year to tank, next season is a good one. There are some AMAZING young talents going into college next year.

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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#93 » by Scott Hall » Thu May 14, 2015 12:50 am

Casey has ruined our tank twice now...

Seriously doubt we tank now with the All-Star game coming up and that it contradicts everything Ujiri has
been saying for the past year.

It's hard to construct a team that can beat Lebron in a 7 game series...

I wouldn't mind blowing it up and rebuilding around 2 top 10 picks in the 2016 draft. Hopefully we'd
be ready to compete by the time Lebron is in his mid 30's
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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#94 » by Zeno » Thu May 14, 2015 12:53 am

Regardless of whether the team tanks or not, they need to get players who completely buy into Casey's defensive system if he's sticking around. That means Lowry as well as a good number of others need to be moved. I really never enjoyed listening to them continuously barf out the culture change talking points but they need to get back on that path with this roster. They were one of the least enjoyable to watch Raptors teams that I can remember despite winning a record number of games.
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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#95 » by Truthrising » Thu May 14, 2015 1:01 am

Scott Hall wrote:Casey has ruined our tank twice now...

Seriously doubt we tank now with the All-Star game coming up and that it contradicts everything Ujiri has
been saying for the past year.

It's hard to construct a team that can beat Lebron in a 7 game series...

I wouldn't mind blowing it up and rebuilding around 2 top 10 picks in the 2016 draft. Hopefully we'd
be ready to compete by the time Lebron is in his mid 30's

Isn't it funny how we all saw this coming except for Masai while he's still in his office evaluating the talent..LOL
So far he's wasted rebuilding for the past 2 seasons and has failed to acquire an all-star through the draft last year (Caboclo) and this years upcoming draft pick doesn't sound too promising as well.

It's funny that we all knew that a core of Derozan/Lowry/JV would be a horrible foundation to build around, only Masai is the one that seems to be delusional.


Anyways i'm glad to hear that he's keeping Casey to actually do a rebuild/tank, not from actually trying to be a treadmill team and trying to fix patches with a horrible foundation this time.
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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#96 » by Hendrix » Thu May 14, 2015 1:06 am

The Newsman wrote:
Lowry has a history of this and he let down the organization and fan base

    Lowry's is a huge issue. When things were going well with him, team was playing well.

    The more I observed Lowry after the all star break, I realized that he didn't run out of gas, he took his foot off the gas

    Lowry has not fought when things don't go well. He's a malcontent.

    To me for a star player of this team to not to take ownership of his own performance and blame the coach instead is a huge problem

    Franchise is asking themselves what do they do with Lowry and whether its time to move on

    The organization fully backed Lowry, they promoted him as an all star, they gave him everything

    If it wasn't for Toronto's crazy fanbase, he wouldn't have gotten in as an all star

    Look at how he repaid the fanbase and the organization


    Lowry needed to dig down and he just didn't do it

    A lot of people in the league told me when we signed Lowry, how can you sign Lowry based off one good year?

    He's had a history of this and people around the league aren't surprised by whats going on


http://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-1050/fe ... y-1.282044


Can someone please explain to me, is Feschuk saying Masai said these things? Because judging by everything Masai has done to this point in his time here, it seems highly unlikely to me that Masai would tell Feschuck these things on the record, to be reported to the public. Masai's been a guy that holds his cards close to his chest, and hasn't lowered his players value by badmouthing them in the press.
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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#97 » by Snoop_Dogg_LA » Thu May 14, 2015 1:09 am

"Fans that are calling for Casey's head lack prespective"

I think Casey lacks perspective he got T Ross out on the court all those minutes shooting 3's like he's Steph Curry and not making any of them.
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Post#98 » by omar36 » Thu May 14, 2015 1:09 am

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DUNPHY wrote:Trading Lowry is a HUGE mistake... Lowry was INJURED! He was literally beasting it out for a year straight before the all star break! Hell come back full force!

Casey is obviously the problem here...

Im really starting to question Masai if this rumour is true..

Ill wait until he actually makes a move before I judge though

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unfortunately it cannot be healed because it requires physical activity somthing overwieght ppl like me cannot do.
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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#99 » by 720 » Thu May 14, 2015 1:09 am

Hackett wrote:It was a great ride, I love the entire 17 months of it... I guess the entitled generation just wants a championship and nothing else will do.


In my opinion you can't get there by throwing tamper tantrums every time things don't go your way and changing the coaching staff. Coaching changes are the worst, those are the moves that often set a franchise back to the starting point. You can change players easier than you can change a coaching staff. (Yes I know there are exceptions, but there are few of them. We haven't been so lucky.)

Studies show that the most entitled generation was the baby boomers, not millennial.
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Re: Feschuk: Masai seriously considering tanking next season, trading Lowry 

Post#100 » by Bankai » Thu May 14, 2015 1:10 am

I think we all knew that as is, this team is a team that at best has All Star like players but no bonafide perennial All Star or Superstar. They are kind of like the Hawks except the Hawks have a way better coach and system in place. Unless the Raptors get that Star, this team is a 2nd Round team at best. Unless the Raptors get a new Coach, this team is a 1st Round team at best.

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