Bruno Caboclo

[refshateRaps]

He'll retire the greatest 905'r in franchise history.

[Stromile12]

I know he's nothing special but I would like to see him get some garbage minutes to see how he's doing. Since I don't really watch the 905

[BarbaGrizz]

I like how people ignore context. "If Bruno had a wingspan 4-6 inches shorter he would be gone"...smh....
Also, you can't put steals and blocks in the same "meaningless g-league stats" page as points or assists, as this shows timing and anticipation skills, things that don't translate to box scores. I don't think there's one single person here that believe Bruno will take the NBA by storm, but he's is not the useless, no potential, not developing scrub some here try to paint.

[UcanUwill]

I like how people ignore context. "If Bruno had a wingspan 4-6 inches shorter he would be gone"...smh....
Also, you can't put steals and blocks in the same "meaningless g-league stats" page as points or assists, as this shows timing and anticipation skills, things that don't translate to box scores. I don't think there's one single person here that believe Bruno will take the NBA by storm, but he's is not the useless, no potential, not developing scrub some here try to paint.

I know you are Brazilian and all, but Bruno looks like a sure fire scrub to me. He barely cracks 40 FG% in G league, and his steal and block numbers aren't even that great. Every NBA caliber scrub should kill G league, especially having those tools. Bruno is out of the league in a year, and I doubt his ability to stick even on good non NBA team.

[BarbaGrizz]

I like how people ignore context. "If Bruno had a wingspan 4-6 inches shorter he would be gone"...smh....
Also, you can't put steals and blocks in the same "meaningless g-league stats" page as points or assists, as this shows timing and anticipation skills, things that don't translate to box scores. I don't think there's one single person here that believe Bruno will take the NBA by storm, but he's is not the useless, no potential, not developing scrub some here try to paint.

I know you are Brazilian and all, but Bruno looks like a sure fire scrub to me. He barely cracks 40 FG% in G league, and his steal and block numbers aren't even that great. Every NBA caliber scrub should kill G league, especially having those tools. Bruno is out of the league in a year, and I doubt his ability to stick even on good non NBA team.

Def I follow Bruno close because he's brazilian, but I try to be unbiased here. Right now he's a scrub for any NBA team, but he's not a regular scrub, because his lenght, experience, etc. I don't think he should be judged using the same parameters as you would judge, for example, Jarron Blossomgame. I know it's only the highlights, but almost every game Bruno shows a play or two that few players does, like a reverse layup a la Dr. J, a stand block on a 3pt shoot and so on.
He's not the Brazilian KD, the Brazilian Freak or anything near the hype that was created, but if he keeps progressing at the rate he is he can be part of a 10-man rotation.

[Mister Ze]

I like how people ignore context. "If Bruno had a wingspan 4-6 inches shorter he would be gone"...smh....
Also, you can't put steals and blocks in the same "meaningless g-league stats" page as points or assists, as this shows timing and anticipation skills, things that don't translate to box scores. I don't think there's one single person here that believe Bruno will take the NBA by storm, but he's is not the useless, no potential, not developing scrub some here try to paint.

I know you are Brazilian and all, but Bruno looks like a sure fire scrub to me. He barely cracks 40 FG% in G league, and his steal and block numbers aren't even that great. Every NBA caliber scrub should kill G league, especially having those tools. Bruno is out of the league in a year, and I doubt his ability to stick even on good non NBA team.

Def I follow Bruno close because he's brazilian, but I try to be unbiased here. Right now he's a scrub for any NBA team, but he's not a regular scrub, because his lenght, experience, etc. I don't think he should be judged using the same parameters as you would judge, for example, Jarron Blossomgame. I know it's only the highlights, but almost every game Bruno shows a play or two that few players does, like a reverse layup a la Dr. J, a stand block on a 3pt shoot and so on.
He's not the Brazilian KD, the Brazilian Freak or anything near the hype that was created, but if he keeps progressing at the rate he is he can be part of a 10-man rotation in China

FTFY

[brownbobcat]

watched a 905 game live. Bruno was clearly on another level than the other G-League guys, but it looked like he wasn't challenged and bored and didn't really try hard all the time.

With some of the Raptors young guys struggling with their shot (Siakem, Powell, OG), I'd love to have Bruno called up for less than 5 minutes/game.

lolll i doubt this. And if it were true it would be an indictment. Do not want.

I don't think so. If you are on the NBA bench, you are a rolled ankle away from meaningful minutes. If you are down in the GLeague playing against players who don't challenge you, and you have a significant log jam ahead of you just to make it to the NBA bench, I can see how one's motivation could be a challenge to maintain.

I can't believe this is being used as an excuse. If you don't have enough motivation in the G-league, you're not going to have it at the NBA level. Caboclo has accomplished nothing to feel that entitled.

[whatamoron]

unless the Raptors pick up some draft picks or make a trade where they receive more players
than what they send away Bruno is safe until the end of next year.
After that I think he is a huge candidate to play in the Greek leagues ( he loves warm weather and the beach)

[Tofubeque]

Watch on YouTube

Couple of nice high-low passes to Meeks here

[OakleyDokely]

Even if Bruno could play a bit, there's no minutes for him with Raptors. Powell and Bebe are two legit NBA players already and Casey is having a hard time finding them minutes. I don't see a future for Bruno with the Raptors. He's been passed by numerous young players on the depth chart.

[PhilBlackson]

McKinnie and Miller have already passed him, it's unbelievable this kid is even still a topic of conversation.

[HeatedEnd]

Actually with McKinnie and Miller, are both on something like a two way contract that allows them to move them back and forth. With Bruno, now that they have re-picked him up, it is not so easy for them to move him around and I imagine they just want to give him more minutes. So they have not actually yet passed him that we know of.

[Harold_and_Kumar]

One thing I want to add that I think is a big factor but talked about much less is that playing competitive sports at a high level allows you to develop a lot of the softer skills you need to be successful. Working with coaches and teammates, staying committed, dealing with failure, pressure and other mental obstacles, etc. are all necessary aspects of being a professional and a lack of these skills can inhibit a player from reaching their potential. By playing competitively at a high level you have a better likelihood of having developed some of these skills along the way and hopefully you just have to grow/adjust at the NBA level. Bruno clearly hasn't and it's unclear whether he has developed any of them, but by all accounts he hasn't.

It's one thing to just have to learn to be better at basketball, it's another to have to being a different person in a different country speaking a different language. I think we sometimes forget just how much of a longshot he really was as a pick and in no way should Masai have expended a first rounder on him. No matter how much coaching and life coaching you give someone, that's always going to be a tough ask.

I can understand Masai taking a flier on a guy with a couple questions, but Bruno had about 5-10 MAJOR questions - more than most guys going at the end of the second round. He was a summer league invite at best and it's a shame we used a first on him.

[S.W.A.N]

Loving what I've seen from Bruno lately.

Some really smart plays. Recognizing mismatches, solid cuts and good recognition of what defenses are giving him. Staying in G league all year has been perfect for him.

I just hope we extend (if option) or resign him on the cheap. Despite what some of the naysayers around here think, he is still a guy who can have a major impact at the NBA level. His defense will be what gets him his next contract with whatever offense he provides other than being a three point threat being a bonus. (Still needs to work on three point shot but so do all young players.)

[execoftheyear]

I'd keep Bruno around on the cheap. With our cap situation we need all the bargain contracts we can get and if Bruno somehow breaks out and eventually cracks our rotation, we might have ourselves a valuable rotational player on a manageable contract. We were patient with Demar and Lowry and look how that paid off...not saying Bruno will reach the same level but some players are just late bloomers.

With the system we have in place (from developmental coaches and utilizing the 905 to get players familiar with the same systeam as the main team and for developing players) Bruno has a good chance at becoming, at the very least, an effective role player on the main team.

[dagger]

Here's a cut and paste from The Athletic's Blake Murphy.

He's rating all 905 players, and I think this evaluation is fair.

Bruno Caboclo – B
Details: Agreed to fourth-year assignment
Caboclo faced a tough decision after a shaky pre-season that saw him leapfrogged in the Raptors rotation by Pascal Siakam and OG Anunoby: Stay on the bench and wait for scraps in which he’d have to make a statement, or accept a fourth year of G League assignments in hopes of continuing to improve on and extend his NBA experiment. He chose the latter, requesting the assignment before the Raptors could ask. It’s been a mixed bag, as most things with the Caboclo gamble have been.

What he’s shown with some level of firmness is that everything the Raptors saw in terms of defensive potential was accurate. Caboclo’s been one of the most important pieces on the league’s No. 2 defence, smothering wings with his length, improving his timing and decision-making helping at the rim and even playing some centre. The 905 allow just 98.1 points per 100 possessions when Caboclo’s on the floor, he’s blocking 5.52 per cent of opponent shots when he’s on the floor and he owns a 2.14-per-cent steal rate. Only one other player in the league can match those block and steal rates, and as a result, Caboclo ranks second in the entire G League in Defensive Win Shares and in the top 20 for Defensive Box Plus-Minus.

Things have come slower on the offensive end, where Caboclo’s been given a green light to the tune of a 23.1-per-cent usage rate. He’s posting a career-best 53.3 true-shooting percentage, but that’s hardly efficient. And while he’s doing a better job finishing through contact and hitting the offensive glass for easier looks inside, he’s hitting just 32.5 per cent of nearly seven three-point attempts per game. It’s important he continues to take these shots, and his confidence has only occasionally waned. Still, for the NBA-ready defence to earn him NBA playing time, he’s going to need what’s likely to be his biggest NBA skill, shooting, to become more reliable. He’s at 32.2 per cent on 773 career long-range attempts now across pre-season/Summer League/NBA/G League.

[slothrop8]

Here's a cut and paste from The Athletic's Blake Murphy.

He's rating all 905 players, and I think this evaluation is fair.

Bruno Caboclo – B

What he’s shown with some level of firmness is that everything the Raptors saw in terms of defensive potential was accurate. Caboclo’s been one of the most important pieces on the league’s No. 2 defence, smothering wings with his length, improving his timing and decision-making helping at the rim and even playing some centre. The 905 allow just 98.1 points per 100 possessions when Caboclo’s on the floor, he’s blocking 5.52 per cent of opponent shots when he’s on the floor and he owns a 2.14-per-cent steal rate. Only one other player in the league can match those block and steal rates, and as a result, Caboclo ranks second in the entire G League in Defensive Win Shares and in the top 20 for Defensive Box Plus-Minus.

This paragraph should be stickied to every Bruno Caboclo thread on this board in perpetuity. For every poster that asks "why are we still talking about this guy?" that paragraph is the answer. The Raptors 905 had the best defense in the league and maybe the best team in DLeague history last year with Bruno starting and playing big minutes nearly the entire season. They lost virtually everyone from that team - except Bruno - who once again is playing big minutes for the #2 defence in the league and a team that after a slow start have won 9 straight. He's a defender.

[brownbobcat]

This paragraph should be stickied to every Bruno Caboclo thread on this board in perpetuity. For every poster that asks "why are we still talking about this guy?" that paragraph is the answer. The Raptors 905 had the best defense in the league and maybe the best team in DLeague history last year with Bruno starting and playing big minutes nearly the entire season. They lost virtually everyone from that team - except Bruno - who once again is playing big minutes for the #2 defence in the league and a team that after a slow start have won 9 straight. He's a defender.

In the G League, maybe. The biggest qualms I have about that translating to the NBA level is that you really need a high motor, quick feet, and an ability to process plays quickly - all of which happen to be Bruno's greatest weaknesses.

[Kevin Willis]

This paragraph should be stickied to every Bruno Caboclo thread on this board in perpetuity. For every poster that asks "why are we still talking about this guy?" that paragraph is the answer. The Raptors 905 had the best defense in the league and maybe the best team in DLeague history last year with Bruno starting and playing big minutes nearly the entire season. They lost virtually everyone from that team - except Bruno - who once again is playing big minutes for the #2 defence in the league and a team that after a slow start have won 9 straight. He's a defender.

In the G League, maybe. The biggest qualms I have about that translating to the NBA level is that you really need a high motor, quick feet, and an ability to process plays quickly - all of which happen to be Bruno's greatest weaknesses.

He does have a motor problem. His feet is better than 2Pat and it's getting better. He processes defensive plays pretty well, on offense not so much. He could be in a NBA rotation as strictly a defender but a shooter than can't shoot is a problem. He needs to get better there before the end of the season.

[brownbobcat]

He does have a motor problem. His feet is better than 2Pat and it's getting better. He processes defensive plays pretty well, on offense not so much. He could be in a NBA rotation as strictly a defender but a shooter than can't shoot is a problem. He needs to get better there before the end of the season.

It'll be interesting to see what happens. If he can ever stick in the NBA as a journeyman, it'll be a real credit to the G League development process.
Still a wasted pick, but that's water under the bridge.