Woj: Raps in The Market Looking to Add Talent

themailman · Post #81 » by **themailman** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:53 am

Duffman100 wrote:Hasn't woj proven to know nothing but breaking news?

woj is the only legitimate new source these days.

Kurtz · Post #82 » by **Kurtz** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:53 am

RonaldArtest wrote:Gasol is obviously an important cog, not sure why people think Drummond or Love would work here as neither guy can realistically play alongside Marc. Norm is playing great now so he could be a sell high piece plus clearing the last year of his contract. But who is available now that is a substantial upgrade on what Norm has given this year? I can’t see any big splash moves coming, especially given the team record and injury woes this year.

Norm has raised his value so much that he's now a good trade piece...and exactly the kind of player the Pelicans need - still young, leader with championship experience, a good, controllable player, and a position of long-term need.

Trading him, cap ballast (finally a use for Stanley Johnson!) and say our first for Holiday gives us a big defensive upgrade and an all-star level impact offensively (although we lose out on 3pt). And his contract ends a year before Norm's.

Kingsway_fan · Post #83 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:53 am

Dont see anything other than buy out additions...or minor trades with miller, stanley, hollis, mccaw....

LoveMyRaps · Post #84 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:55 am

LaMarcus Aldridge seems like a very realistic target.
Ibaka + Boucher + 2nd ?

gaoj2 · Post #85 » by **gaoj2** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:00 am

Ibaka, FVV plus McCaw for Wiggins, young talent and 2020unprotected first round pick. I think it will be win win for both. I don’t think raptors will re sign Ibaka and fVV, both look for 20 million and long term, which will hurt raptors chance for Gannis. Second, Wiggins should be an upgrade to FVV, I think he can still improve in a right environment. If raptors can get pick and young in return, why not. For t wolves, they need to surround towns with right pieces. With Towns,Ibaka, Covington,McCaw, FVV. If raptors can win games with this kind of line up, why wolves can’t?
If Wiggins somehow play like an all star, raptors will improve their chance.

PrinceV · Post #86 » by **PrinceV** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:01 am

No point trading anyone on our roster with chip experience for a player that hasn't been in that situation. The only player with chip experience is Love.

SpaceCenter · Post #87 » by **SpaceCenter** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:07 am

RonaldArtest wrote:
SpaceCenter wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:We need a volume scorer, one with a TS% above 60, who isn't necessarily overly concerned about three point shooting or defence as we have those things covered.

brooks...except he can shoot and play d.

Dillon? Why would he be available?

RFA who has been inconsistent for a lot of the year...Although he's been on fire since New years.

kalel123 · Post #88 » by **kalel123** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:15 am

The way things are going, it makes sense to be buyers.

But we still need to make a major move if the aim is to try and have a chance to go all the way. No need to make a move otherwise.

So to me, a trade involving Lowry or FVV as centerpieces are the only ones that make sense. They should be able to net us a meaningful piece that can move the needle. If there's no right piece available for that package, just go with what we have right now.

RonaldArtest · Post #89 » by **RonaldArtest** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:21 am

Kurtz wrote:
RonaldArtest wrote:Gasol is obviously an important cog, not sure why people think Drummond or Love would work here as neither guy can realistically play alongside Marc. Norm is playing great now so he could be a sell high piece plus clearing the last year of his contract. But who is available now that is a substantial upgrade on what Norm has given this year? I can’t see any big splash moves coming, especially given the team record and injury woes this year.

Norm has raised his value so much that he's now a good trade piece...and exactly the kind of player the Pelicans need - still young, leader with championship experience, a good, controllable player, and a position of long-term need.

Trading him, cap ballast (finally a use for Stanley Johnson!) and say our first for Holiday gives us a big defensive upgrade and an all-star level impact offensively (although we lose out on 3pt). And his contract ends a year before Norm's.

Norm this year has been a blessing for Masai, as he’s upped his trade value if he wants to move him, and if not then he’s helping the current team secure wins.

As for Jrue, I think both he and Powell have player options for the 21/22 season (norm at around $11m and Holiday around $27m). Given the dollar amount and Jrue’s history I think he might be more likely to opt in than Powell (if he continues his strong play). And while Norm would be enticing to a team like NO, they don’t have a slew of veteran assets past Jrue (plus Redick and Favors). I’m assuming if they are going to sell them off they are going to want at least one FRP coming back, and Jrue is the best asset to get that done.

Roco14 · Post #90 » by **Roco14** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:28 am

Mehar wrote:
Roco14 wrote:Why are people mentioning names like Drummond, Gallinari, marcus morris, and dillon brooks?

Do you guys honestly think that giving up pieces of the team that have already gelled/built chemistry and adding a mediocre player that's never won anything will suddenly change the outcome of the season for us? If anything those moves open the door for catastrophe. Nurse has a roster right now that he can depend on to play championship-level basketball. We don't need a perennial loser like Drummond to come here and mess that up.

There's no legitimate all-star 2-way talent out there available for trade right now (at least from a fans perspective) and for that reason its unlikely that Masai will shake up the roster. Maybe we flirt with the buyout market or give up a few stragglers away for some bench scoring, but probably not even that.

Do not compare Gallinari with the other three guys. I agree about Drummond. Gallinari has been superb with OKC, and is not a mediocre player. Averaging almost 19 points a game, and his contract is done after the year. That is why i mentioned a package of Powell, Johnson, McCaw (along with the Raptors trade exception of 2.4 M). Salaries would match up. Just me being Masai. I agree with the other 3 guys.

he's a solid player but again - does he put us over the top? Will he be the difference maker in us winning an additional playoff game, let alone a playoff series? Will he even fit in with this roster? I see him as a guy who would become less valuable in the playoffs, maybe I'm wrong about that.

I personally don't want Masai to let go of any piece that can be considered an asset unless its to compete for a championship now, or to put us in a better position to compete for a championship in the future. Basically nobody mentioned in this thread does either of those things for us.

Boogie! · Post #91 » by **Boogie!** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:28 am

mieshpal wrote:no thank you!!!
Boogie! wrote:Ibaka plus mccaw for Drummond.

Your opinion of either Ibaka or McCaw is way too high. If I’m being honest that’s a joke offer in the sense that realistically Detroit is telling us to **** off and call back when we’re serious. If anything they’d be asking us to tack on fvv or og to even consider it.

Syd-TK3 · Post #92 » by **Syd-TK3** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:37 am

I'll be very shocked if masai makes any sort of trade

Scott Hall · Post #93 » by **Scott Hall** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:43 am

Don't see anything out there that would be available that would be a difference maker. Maybe Towns if he was available
but that's about it.

Clementine64 · Post #94 » by **Clementine64** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:50 am

Duffman100 wrote:Hasn't woj proven to know nothing but breaking news?

He called Kawhi to Clippers incessantly while the Raps board mocked him. Turned out the Woj knows more than you guys....

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GreatWhiteStiff · Post #95 » by **GreatWhiteStiff** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:57 am

So...we're not going to trade ibaka/lowry and try to tank? *Single native american tear rolls down face*

baller16 · Post #96 » by **baller16** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:14 am

There's no one really out there that puts us over the top.

Possible Upgrades but unlikely:

Jrue
McCollum

Pipe Dream:

Towns
Oladipo

WWSRD · Post #97 » by **WWSRD** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:19 am

Good younger players under contract next season: TD2, Powell and OG.

Given the fact the Raps don't want to take back bad contracts, if you want to add a legitimate piece, you'd have to trade one of them.

Otherwise, it's going to have to be something like 'Ibaka + 1st round pick for a slight upgrade

Clementine64 · Post #98 » by **Clementine64** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:16 am

Ibaka+Miller+2nd for Drummond. 3rd team takes Ibaka and send 1st to DET

McCaw+Stanley+1st for Robert Covington

New lineup

Lowry/Fred
Norm/TD2
OG/Covington
Siakam/RHJ
Drummond/Gasol

10 deep. Looks like another ship to me

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Oakville_Raptor · Post #99 » by **Oakville_Raptor** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:12 am

Is everyone forgetting that Masai runs this franchise? Whichever team he trades with we'll end up swindling them....

Jim Todd Jr. · Post #100 » by **Jim Todd Jr.** » Sat Jan 18, 2020 9:37 am

No way Drummond is the target. I just cant see it.

Its a weird situation because there are really no players to move if we are trying to compete.. Powell plus picks for an upgrade at the wing? Hes playing like the exact player we need though. Fred plus picks for a bigger guard? Ughh.

I think were more likely to ship junk out in a 2 for 1 and open a roster spot for a buyout guy. Even then SJ isnt even expiring so why would anyone take him? RHJ doesnt make enough money to balance a deal for anyone good.

I dont see much there, but maybe we swing for the fences?