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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#81 » by Chandan » Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:27 pm

enough of these dudes who walk around with their logo all over themselves when their game hasnt reached a level to warrant one.
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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#82 » by KL78192020 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:28 pm

He's a good player but not max. He's on the Dragic/Brogdon type level of PG. Team will be crippled if they give him the max espeically with Siakam already maxed out. Its like how great Biyombo was here, got over paid and no one heard from him again.

FVV and Siakam is not a championship core for the future. It was a bit tough to watch two 6 foot pg's go up against Tatum and Brown on switches. One short guy is enough.
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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#83 » by Fast_Feets » Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:47 pm

FVV is pretty cunning. In his final interview he wears the Raptors t-shirt but normally he is rocking his own gear for self promotion
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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#84 » by Fast_Feets » Sat Sep 12, 2020 6:51 pm

SurgeIblocka wrote:
Wo1verine wrote:What's Fred's max anyways? Isn't he a lock at $20M + from some team?


Fred is definitely getting at least 20 M , but more likely 25 Mil.

NY and Detroit will offer him that no question.

There are a lot of teams who can create cap space easily this summer


Norm is getting 11 Million. I wouldn't give him more than 15.
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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#85 » by _MidNight_ » Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:12 pm

I would do Fred for Dipo in a heartbeat.

Who's beating this?

PG: Kyle/Pick
SG: Dipo/TDII/Thomas
SF: OG/Norm
PF:Pascal/Boucher
C: Gainnis/Serge
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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#86 » by Wo1verine » Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:17 pm

_MidNight_ wrote:I would do Fred for Dipo in a heartbeat.

Who's beating this?

PG: Kyle/Pick
SG: Dipo/TDII/Thomas
SF: OG/Norm
PF:Pascal/Boucher
C: Gainnis/Serge

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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#87 » by Raptorfan2012 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:17 pm

_MidNight_ wrote:I would do Fred for Dipo in a heartbeat.

Who's beating this?

PG: Kyle/Pick
SG: Dipo/TDII/Thomas
SF: OG/Norm
PF:Pascal/Boucher
C: Gainnis/Serge


This only works if:

1) Fred wants to go to the Pacers and the Pacers want to pay him that much.

2) Pacers willing to give up Dipo to make room for Fred.

Not sure if this will play out.
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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#88 » by Tor_Raps » Sat Sep 12, 2020 7:18 pm

Raptors would easily do fred for oladipo. Are you able to add other players/picks to a sign and trade?
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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#89 » by tdotrep2 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:03 pm

WeTheNorth123 wrote:I dont want Marc Gasol anywhere near this team.......we just let him chock through the celtics series

gasols fine, its just nurse rode him in this bad matchup... i mean **** me he killed our momentum
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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#90 » by kilpin » Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:17 pm

Tor_Raps wrote:Raptors would easily do fred for oladipo. Are you able to add other players/picks to a sign and trade?


Why would the Pacers do that?
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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#91 » by Tor_Raps » Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:21 pm

:roll:
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Tor_Raps wrote:Raptors would easily do fred for oladipo. Are you able to add other players/picks to a sign and trade?


Why would the Pacers do that?


I was just responding to the posts above me. I agree that the pacers wouldn't do that straight up, which is why I asked if we can add more to that transaction to make it more realistic.
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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#92 » by tdotrep2 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:26 pm

kilpin wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:Raptors would easily do fred for oladipo. Are you able to add other players/picks to a sign and trade?


Why would the Pacers do that?

its possible, ola might leave in FA, fred and brogdan would fit perfectly. Also ola hasnt looked like his old self so thats also a risk
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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#93 » by tdotrep2 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:29 pm

https://www.reddit.com/r/pacers/comments/ir18iu/what_can_the_pacers_realistically_do_this/

heres a pacers thread literally talking about the same thing with fvv, they say the raptors might not even do it they dont trust Oladipos injury.
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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#94 » by C Court » Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:30 pm

No way Fred is a max player. He’s a reliable three point shooter with range and plays decent defence.

That said, he can’t finish at the rim and he overestimates his own talent. Too much over-dribbling and he’s prone to dribble to nowhere. He has no hops and is not young either. He frustrates me as much as any Raptor, even though I’d like him back. But he’s not worth anywhere near max money.

Fred is a good system player who fits with the Raptors. Not sure he’d have the same success with most other teams.
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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#95 » by kilpin » Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:37 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/pacers/comments/ir18iu/what_can_the_pacers_realistically_do_this/

heres a pacers thread literally talking about the same thing with fvv, they say the raptors might not even do it they dont trust Oladipos injury.


I can get what they're saying there, it really depends on how much Pacers still trust/want him. I would still like to resign FVV at a fair price, I would consider S&T only if he demanded more than that (which is very possible). We should assume Pacers would want to overpay him more than we do.

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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#96 » by BrickFreak » Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:40 pm

**** NO
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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#97 » by tecumseh18 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:45 pm

Fast_Feets wrote:FVV is pretty cunning. In his final interview he wears the Raptors t-shirt but normally he is rocking his own gear for self promotion


IIRC, Bosh wore Raptors gear in his last interview. But Fred's interview was hilarious.
Q - Have you thought about free agency?

A - Every day. I've got lots of time to practice my craft and think about the future. People are always telling me how much I'll be offered.


He just undercut the standard "just been focusing on the next game, I'll take a break and then consider the option" BS response that athletes - e.g. Marc yesterday - usually give.
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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#98 » by tdotrep2 » Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:52 pm

kilpin wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:https://www.reddit.com/r/pacers/comments/ir18iu/what_can_the_pacers_realistically_do_this/

heres a pacers thread literally talking about the same thing with fvv, they say the raptors might not even do it they dont trust Oladipos injury.


I can get what they're saying there, it really depends on how much Pacers still trust/want him. I would still like to resign FVV at a fair price, I would consider S&T only if he demanded more than that (which is very possible). We should assume Pacers would want to overpay him more than we do.

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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#99 » by SFour » Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:56 pm

anything more than Brogdon money and he can go ahead and walk to the Knicks or Pistons
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Re: GIVE FVV MAX! 

Post#100 » by milkii » Sat Sep 12, 2020 9:03 pm

i dont' think the raptors should give him the max

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