OT: Paul Pierce fired by ESPN

[Fairview4Life]

A very short tolerance for free speech. ESPN is allowed to be leftist. It's their right. But they sure know how to mute voices when they offend. The best answer for controversial ideas amongst the left seems not to be more speech or tolerance, but conformity/orthodoxy. Don't paint outside the lines. To the extent that this is a business decision, God bless. It's your company. But then don't ever try to be edgy or hip or woke with me. It's enough to have to ingest your politics, but then to realize you're also insincere, it becomes a little too much. Just give me the news.

Are you saying Paul Pierce was fired for being conservative?

[Fairview4Life]

A company that has been bleeding ratings for becoming to leftist/political.

ESPN hasn't been bleeding ratings for being too political. That's just lazy framing. If that was the case, what's Fox Sports 1's issue? Why have their ratings been dropping every year? Are they too woke?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/368623/cable-tv-networks-fox-sports-1-watched-within-the-last-7-days-usa/

You might find it comforting to believe that you're part of some political majority that is punishing the companies that don't believe the same things you do, but there's no evidence of that. Every channel has lost viewers as attention splinters in hundreds of different directions. There aren't 50 million people watching Seinfeld on Thursdays anymore.

[OakleyDokely]

Haha this just makes me think of a Better Call Saul situation; like maybe Pierce wanted out but he couldn't outright quit without losing money or a bonus in his contract with ESPN, so he did something just bad enough to get fired but not bad enough to be fired for cause. Essentially just a firing based on bad judgment for choosing to share all that on IG.

The George Costanza move.

[kasrahimi]

Haha this just makes me think of a Better Call Saul situation; like maybe Pierce wanted out but he couldn't outright quit without losing money or a bonus in his contract with ESPN, so he did something just bad enough to get fired but not bad enough to be fired for cause. Essentially just a firing based on bad judgment for choosing to share all that on IG.

The George Costanza move.

My first thought as soon as I saw the video. Body suit man.

[Tofubeque]

Haha this just makes me think of a Better Call Saul situation; like maybe Pierce wanted out but he couldn't outright quit without losing money or a bonus in his contract with ESPN, so he did something just bad enough to get fired but not bad enough to be fired for cause. Essentially just a firing based on bad judgment for choosing to share all that on IG.

I have no idea what's going on here. Is it possible Peirce orchestrated this because he didnt want to work anymore and wanted to get bought out? I guess if he was fired he doesn't take any money though. But can we confirm that Pierce wasn't paid out?

You guys are giving Pierce's intelligence way too much credit.

[OakleyDokely]

PP should have been fired long ago for being piss poor at his job.

[LarSiN]

I love that "Taking out a Pepe le Pew cameo in Space Jam 2" has now translated to "Disney is cancelling cartoons", making it sound like they're deleting old looney tunes cartoons. Quite a jump. Pepe sucked then and he sucks now imo, just not funny.

[Danny1616]

Cancel culture is a real thing, but this isn't cancel culture.

You have to be dumb as a rock to post a live video of yourself with strippers when you are a public persona with a mainstream cable TV gig. I really couldn't care less about the video, but anyone I know with some basic intelligence would have at least kept that scene to a private video with his closest friends instead of broadcasting it.

[ItsDanger]

A key tenet of leftists is social equality. This isn't complicated. But this termination was more about ethics of the video.

[visionquest]

Lesson here is play the game, live inauthentically, and don't stray from your company/master's code of ethics...

[And1+2]

Someone should reface the guy wheeling Paul Pierce out of the arena when he s*** himself with Mickey Mouse and win the internet.

[ruckus]

Lesson here is play the game, live inauthentically, and don't stray from your company/master's code of ethics...

Is that really your takeaway from this?

Paul Pierce decided to get high.
Paul Pierce decided to get drunk.
Paul Pierce decided to hire rippers.
Paul Pierce decided to post it on social media.

The lesson is actions have consequences.

You can live as "authentically" as you want but don't put it out there for public consumption if you aren't willing to accept the consequences.

[OAKLEY_2]

A key tenet of leftists is social equality. This isn't complicated. But this termination was more about ethics of the video.

Equality pre dates phoney notional labels of left and right.

[djsunyc]

A key tenet of leftists is social equality. This isn't complicated. But this termination was more about ethics of the video.

Equality pre dates phoney notional labels of left and right.

left
right
woke


all BS labels to tribalize folks so they can keep some control.

[El Mas Chingon]

Someone send some strippers to Leo Rautins room and film it.

Haha! Genuine lol

[NBA Sheady]

Shouldn't be long before the virtue signal cancel culture twitter get him.

There's always somebody who claims to be offended.

[NBA Sheady]

Shouldn't be long before the virtue signal cancel culture twitter get him. There's always somebody who claims to be offended.

Virtue signal cancel culture. Is that supposed to be meaningful as social critique? Sounds like urban dictionary bullsht.

It's Rebel News boomer bingo.

[tecumseh18]

A key tenet of leftists is social equality. This isn't complicated. But this termination was more about ethics of the video.

Equality pre dates phoney notional labels of left and right.

left
right
woke


all BS labels to tribalize folks so they can keep some control.

All there are is specific issues. How one feels about Israel should have nothing to do with how one feels about drug laws. Or gun control. Or women's rights/abortion. Or anti-black or anti-Asian racism. Or medicare. Or climate change. Or non-climate environmentalist policies. Or appropriate tax rates for individuals. Or appropriate tax rates for small companies. Or appropriate tax rates for large companies. Or regulating the big social media companies. Or free trade with countries that share your values. Or free trade with countries that don't share your values. Or capital punishment. Or how much to spend on infrastructure. Or what even is "infrastructure".

These are discrete issues, and no two people - in isolation - can be expected to have the exact same opinions on every issue. The tribalism leads us to it, and exacerbates the schisms between us. Of course, there are different values. Rugged individualism and caring for others are equally important social values. But they can co-exist, as we formulate solutions to the various policy issues.

[NBA Sheady]

He's not wrong

again - what exactly does it mean in the context of Pierce and ESPN

Sure. Pierce’s first mistake was to remember that the left carved out its position on women’s liberation, sexual promiscuity, and female empowerment by promoting overt sexual expressions as power and empowerment.

His rather more important mistake was to believe there was a universal standard to be applied. He (as a cis male) is no longer permitted to promote these ideas just three weeks after ABC celebrated “women ruling the night” at the Grammy’s after Cardi B’s sex show. Cardi can. He can’t.

If PP wants to dress up and do what Cardi did he's welcome to it. That's the actual comparison if you want to make a comparison in good faith.

[lolwut]

A key tenet of leftists is social equality. This isn't complicated. But this termination was more about ethics of the video.

Equality pre dates phoney notional labels of left and right.

left
right
woke


all BS labels to tribalize folks so they can keep some control.

Yup, I'm seeing these labels thrown around all the time now and it really seems like people have no idea what they actually mean. Oh, you don't like what I'm saying? Then you must be a libtard/white supremacist...

I bet people who use such labels have never even taken tests to see where they truly stand on the spectrum. What if you're a poor racist that also believes in taxing the rich to fund better road construction so that it's less bumpy when you parade around town with your other racist friends? Are you left or right leaning?

These labels are all meaningless and anyone who generalizes others with them is honestly an idiot.